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citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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NiceCupOfTea said:
, and now it will apparently take a while for the residents to raise the money for clear up. Possible that it's a ploy to help the next planning application...?
Why would the residents pay to clean this up? its down to the land owner and the council can enforce this or clean it up and charge the land owner for the privilege

baldy1926

2,136 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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The funniest site on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/travellersGossip/

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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djc206 said:
OzzyR1 said:
kev1974 said:
Where has all that rubbish come from? I guess they are just charging people to take rubbish away but then just dumping it in that field.
They're just misunderstood remember.
They're clearly scum but the locals need to take ownership of the fact that they were paying unlicensed people, probably in cash to take their st away. If any of it is traceable the council can fine the original owner of the crap I believe.
Near where a family member lives, in a small village, travellers dumped a load of rubbish, completely blocking a single-track lane, so it had to be cleared fairly quickly. Sure enough it contained postal items from the house where they had got it from and guess who got the flak for it.

irocfan

40,437 posts

190 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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baldy1926 said:
The funniest site on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/travellersGossip/
TBH it gave me a headache - I'd rather listen to jawknee

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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citizensm1th said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
, and now it will apparently take a while for the residents to raise the money for clear up. Possible that it's a ploy to help the next planning application...?
Why would the residents pay to clean this up? its down to the land owner and the council can enforce this or clean it up and charge the land owner for the privilege
In another infestation near me, the local council closed the field and all nearby amenities whilst the visitors were there. After they went, some public-spirited locals went to try and help with the clear-up but were publicly advised by the council to seek medical help due to what the council discovered they had been exposed to.

towser44

3,492 posts

115 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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We had 5 or 6 rock up on a local park pretty much in the town centre a couple of weeks ago. My missus works at a charity, not profit community garden centre on the park and they ended up getting a security firm to do night visits as they had threatened workers at the council parks depot next door that they would be nicking their diesel and plant equipment. They were evicted after 5 days, but were there over a whole weekend and the park which is usually packed with families was empty the whole time. They were still finding human sh!t in the flowerbeds last week from them.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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hyphen said:
GWC said:
Direct action from local residents did the trick here, the travellers had the brass neck to call the police to help them.

http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/15424629.Determ...
More info and pics: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4717244/Vi...
Love to know what law wasn't broken by digging the ditch and only leaving 1m pedestrian access... sounds like a plan for everyone .

NiceCupOfTea

25,289 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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citizensm1th said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
, and now it will apparently take a while for the residents to raise the money for clear up. Possible that it's a ploy to help the next planning application...?
Why would the residents pay to clean this up? its down to the land owner and the council can enforce this or clean it up and charge the land owner for the privilege
D'oh, I meant the landowners!

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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CAPP0 said:
Near where a family member lives, in a small village, travellers dumped a load of rubbish, completely blocking a single-track lane, so it had to be cleared fairly quickly. Sure enough it contained postal items from the house where they had got it from and guess who got the flak for it.
There's no defending the vermin who fly tip but as a homeowner myself if I need household waste disposed of it's up to me to make sure the person I get to do it is correctly licensed and preferably a reputable local business not some dodgy bloke with a unique accent and two dogs on a string. Sure most would have parted with their cash in good faith but that doesn't excuse their naivety and failure to check the persons credentials.

In your example the person also needs to think a bit more about identity theft too.

250 tonnes is impressive in a fortnight. That's a lot of crap!

CoolHands

18,631 posts

195 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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There's obviously something very dodgy in waste management circles. I personally think it's not people (builders or home owners) paying them (dodgy dags) directly to clear rubbish etc.

I think there is some kind of organised crime whereby waste management firms pay aresholes like this to take it away and dump it, rather than put it through the proper process. So they take in say 100 tonnes a week from various proper paying parties, and send 60 of it on the correct authorised process, the rest goes out the back door.

Edited by CoolHands on Monday 24th July 17:25

irocfan

40,437 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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CoolHands said:
There's obviously something very dodgy in waste management circles. I personally think it's not people (builders or have me owners) paying them (dodgy dags) directly to clear rubbish etc.

I think there is some kind of organised crime whereby waste management firms pay aresholes like this to take it away and dump it, rather than put it through the proper process. So they take in say 100 tonnes a week from various proper paying parties, and send 60 of it on the correct authorised process, the rest goes out the back door.
sounds like what's happening in Naples

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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CoolHands said:
There's obviously something very dodgy in waste management circles. I personally think it's not people (builders or have me owners) paying them (dodgy dags) directly to clear rubbish etc.

I think there is some kind of organised crime whereby waste management firms pay aresholes like this to take it away and dump it, rather than put it through the proper process. So they take in say 100 tonnes a week from various proper paying parties, and send 60 of it on the correct authorised process, the rest goes out the back door.
What you have described is series 1 of the Sopranos!

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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2 weeks in Bromley....

Gates were apparently unlocked- can anyone who owns a large area of land still not be aware enough to have it secured from caravan access.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/23/travell...



Edited by hyphen on Monday 24th July 12:49

WindyCommon

3,374 posts

239 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Nice RS6 I saw yesterday. Sorry about the poor image quality - I was laughing too much....




Benmac

1,468 posts

216 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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WindyCommon said:
Nice RS6 I saw yesterday. Sorry about the poor image quality - I was laughing too much....

RS6 or 2.0 Diesel, I wonder?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Benmac said:
WindyCommon said:
Nice RS6 I saw yesterday. Sorry about the poor image quality - I was laughing too much....

RS6 or 2.0 Diesel, I wonder?
2.0 Diesel

kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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hyphen said:
2 weeks in Bromley....

Gates were apparently unlocked- can anyone who owns a large area of land still not be aware enough to have it secured from caravan access.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/23/travell...



Edited by hyphen on Monday 24th July 12:49
That is a LOT of rubbish
oddly a bunch camped on the A64, going to their usual gypsy convention at Scarborough, left hardly any mess, despite having at least 2 dozen horses with them

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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anonymous said:
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It's insured.

Not a 'nomadic individual' hehe

Storer

5,024 posts

215 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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kowalski655 said:
That is a LOT of rubbish
oddly a bunch camped on the A64, going to their usual gypsy convention at Scarborough, left hardly any mess, despite having at least 2 dozen horses with them
In my experience those with horses tend not to be quite the same.

Transits and double wheel caravans = trouble.
Horses and traditional romany vans or small caravans = not too bad.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Storer said:
kowalski655 said:
That is a LOT of rubbish
oddly a bunch camped on the A64, going to their usual gypsy convention at Scarborough, left hardly any mess, despite having at least 2 dozen horses with them
In my experience those with horses tend not to be quite the same.

Transits and double wheel caravans = trouble.
Horses and traditional romany vans or small caravans = not too bad.
Transits, double-axle caravans and shiny white german cars always equal massive trouble and desecration. If they are genuine horse and romany vans, practically guaranteed no issues as long as you don't mind being asked whether you want to buy pegs or lavender. In the middle are some caravan-dwelling moving-around people who don't really cause much trouble, but it's difficult to tell them apart until the trouble and desecration has started. It's the first lot who are worthy bearers of the word-which-must-not-be-used.


Edited by CAPP0 on Monday 24th July 20:39

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