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98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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desolate said:
_Exocet_ said:
I'm curious. What actually is legal in this situation?

Presumably as Freds owns the land he's well within his right to spread manure, plough or do whatever he fancies with the field as he would normally, right? Surely if he fancied digging an enormous ditch across the entry point it's his land and entirely up to him?

Or do your rights as a landowner stop as soon as someone sets up camp?
There are quite long established procedures to evict someone from your land. It's procedural and long winded.

As amusing as spraying them with fertiliser would be I would imagine it would constitute assault, and there are only limited reasons accepted for assaulting someone.

I would imagine working on his land would be perfectly acceptable, but I would imagine there is some bks about preventing access to the highway.

Not a great situation.
The funny thing is if I drove my car on to my neighbours land and shat in his garden, how long do you think it would be before I was arrested?

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Please, please, please get a video of muck spreading.

I hate scum like this.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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98elise said:
The funny thing is if I drove my car on to my neighbours land and shat in his garden, how long do you think it would be before I was arrested?
That's the bit I struggle with. How come they get a completely separate set of rules to the rest of us?

We get them round our way - no way I could pitch up with a caravan and set myself up for a nice holiday where/how they do.

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

196 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
Telephone the MoD and offer up the field as a practise landing ground.
A couple of nights of Chinook four-ships arriving at 2am might urge the 3.14keys to move.
It did when they set up camp in a flying instructor's meadow a few years ago.
At a previous unit I was posted to in east anglia a handful of caravans decided to park up at the end of the runway.

Didn't stay too long when the apaches that used the runway for training practised hovering at that end of the runway right above them throughout the night!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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I can't see how you'd get in any trouble for muck spreading your own land. Start away from them and move ever closer, if you have given them fair warning then what have you done wrong?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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anonymous said:
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I reckon it would be assault if you actually sprayed it over anyone on purpose.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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desolate said:
anonymous said:
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I reckon it would be assault if you actually sprayed it over anyone on purpose.
It wouldn't be because this is the time of year when muck would be being spread. If he wants to spread muck on his land he's at liberty to do so, if there are caravans on there that shouldn't be, that is their problem.

The issue is that 3.14 keys have very long memories and he is likely to see things go missing or mysteriously burn down. These people are above the law and know the law inside out.

MDMA .

8,895 posts

101 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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We know when they are close to work as we get robbed during the night. New van parts. Thieving, inbred fking s they are. Every last one of them. Police are powerless ( read useless ). They know who they are but can't touch them.

Who exactly do you send a court summons to ? They know sooner or later they will move on ( about 5-7 working days ) once the council gets off its arse. Then its costs a fortune cleaning up all the st. God forbid they have to use the toilet in the van. Dirty fking s. Cost us a fortune.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Meanwhile, Channel 4 (?) have been heavily trailering a programme tonight about the children of gypsies, which if the trailers are representative, shows them as a happy-go-lucky bunch of misunderstood scalliwags.

Let's see how the OP gets on...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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You have to ask yourself where the fk it all went wrong when the stated priority for our local council upon being informed of a 3.14key encampment is to visit the location and assess any welfare or Health & Safety issues with which "they" might need assistance.
rolleyes

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Fingers crossed for you, and for good focus on the video!

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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There were a few caravans parked up in our local Halfords carpark a few days ago, don't know how long they've been there or if they're still there but I was certainly surprised to see them in such a location.

MDMA .

8,895 posts

101 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Here is the last van that got stripped -



I know someone who had the same problem on a field. Put a load of bales round the caravans and drenched them in diesel. They soon hitched up and left.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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MDMA . said:
Here is the last van that got stripped -



I know someone who had the same problem on a field. Put a load of bales round the caravans and drenched them in diesel. They soon hitched up and left.
Curious, what's the yellow thing on the bonnet?

toastybase

2,226 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Careful. They're full of tricks those lot

Freds

Original Poster:

947 posts

137 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Update .....
Gentlemen (And Ladies) Thanks so much for your comments and support, I'm pleased to say that following the first conversation I had with my uninvited visitors and a further visit at 7.30 p.m they vacated at 8.30p.m, taking any rubbish with them and covering the cost of the fence which they hadn't damaged/ removed !
A friend who knows a man who knows a man made a telephone call on my behalf to some 'respected' ? traveller and that sorted that. Until next time.....

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Freds said:
Update .....
Gentlemen (And Ladies) Thanks so much for your comments and support, I'm pleased to say that following the first conversation I had with my uninvited visitors and a further visit at 7.30 p.m they vacated at 8.30p.m, taking any rubbish with them and covering the cost of the fence which they hadn't damaged/ removed !
A friend who knows a man who knows a man made a telephone call on my behalf to some 'respected' ? traveller and that sorted that. Until next time.....
Bloody hell, that's quite the result clap

Freds

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947 posts

137 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Bloody hell, that's quite the result clap
Pity really....... I was just about to print tickets at £10 a time for the floodlit festival of st spreading, news had travelled as far as Skipton and Pateley Bridge....... Next time !

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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eldar said:
rb5er said:
I have never seen nor heard of this type. I don't think they exist.
They do, you just don't notice them.....
Indeed they do.

MDMA .

8,895 posts

101 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Ari said:
Curious, what's the yellow thing on the bonnet?
Key tracker pod number. When you got 200 vans on site, easier to find the one you looking for. Most are new and so unregistered.
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