Karate experts - are they really 'hard'?

Karate experts - are they really 'hard'?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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say the you learn the skills and in real life someone points a gun at you and is robbing you etc..

Are you really going to try and disarm him?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
say the you learn the skills and in real life someone points a gun at you and is robbing you etc..

Are you really going to try and disarm him?
Nope.

If someone is out to rob you and they have a knife or a gun, let them rob you.

Only to be used if someone is not robbing you, but trying to stab or slash you or kidnap you.

I live in Latin America and that scenario does happen.



Soov330e

35,829 posts

271 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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"Hard" ; adjective.

See also "nails" and "balls of steel", and this guy (Leonid Rogazov) who is removing his own appendix because he's the only surgeon in Antarctica.

yikes



https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/201...

Hardest man alive said:
I did not sleep at all last night. It hurts like the devil! A snowstorm whipping through my soul, wailing like a hundred jackals. Still no obvious symptoms that perforation is imminent, but an oppressive feeling of foreboding hangs over me ... This is it ... I have to think through the only possible way out: to operate on myself ... It's almost impossible ... but I can't just fold my arms and give up.
Edited by Soov330e on Monday 15th May 11:17

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Soov330e said:
"Hard" ; adjective.

See also "nails" and "balls of steel", and this guy (Leonid Rogazov) who is removing his own appendix because he's the only surgeon in Antarctica.

yikes


https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/201...

Hardest man alive said:
I did not sleep at all last night. It hurts like the devil! A snowstorm whipping through my soul, wailing like a hundred jackals. Still no obvious symptoms that perforation is imminent, but an oppressive feeling of foreboding hangs over me ... This is it ... I have to think through the only possible way out: to operate on myself ... It's almost impossible ... but I can't just fold my arms and give up.
He did have local anaesthetic, so not as bad as it could have been....

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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A 16 year-old lad who goes to my MA class was jumped by five adult thugs outside a nightclub last week.

They started pushing and shoving him and then started swinging fists.

He punched one in the face - one down.

The others started to lay into him. With his back against a wall he grabbed one in a head hold and held on, using his knees and feet to fend off the others, while using the guy he was hanging onto as a shield.

They couldn't land anything on him and he held on long enough for security to arrive and sort it out and he came out a bit bruised on his back and shoulders but otherwise unhurt.

It seems his training paid off. He is a blue belt, that is a couple of ranks down from a black belt.






ApOrbital

9,959 posts

118 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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punch

Pete102

2,045 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
A 16 year-old lad who goes to my MA class was jumped by five adult thugs outside a nightclub last week.

They started pushing and shoving him and then started swinging fists.

He punched one in the face - one down.

The others started to lay into him. With his back against a wall he grabbed one in a head hold and held on, using his knees and feet to fend off the others, while using the guy he was hanging onto as a shield.

They couldn't land anything on him and he held on long enough for security to arrive and sort it out and he came out a bit bruised on his back and shoulders but otherwise unhurt.

It seems his training paid off. He is a blue belt, that is a couple of ranks down from a black belt.





Blue belt in BJJ? May well be a couple of ranks down from Black but most blue belts I know are quite handy. Also, if he's 16 and a blue belt that means he's been training for quite a while in his teens - not surprised!

Hoofy

76,350 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
A 16 year-old lad who goes to my MA class was jumped by five adult thugs outside a nightclub last week.

They started pushing and shoving him and then started swinging fists.

He punched one in the face - one down.

The others started to lay into him. With his back against a wall he grabbed one in a head hold and held on, using his knees and feet to fend off the others, while using the guy he was hanging onto as a shield.

They couldn't land anything on him and he held on long enough for security to arrive and sort it out and he came out a bit bruised on his back and shoulders but otherwise unhurt.

It seems his training paid off. He is a blue belt, that is a couple of ranks down from a black belt.
Good for him and lucky the guy in a headlock is too dimwitted to do anything useful. If someone got me in a headlock and it was a serious issue rather than training in the local dojo, I'd be performing a double orchidectomy without anaesthetic.

ofcorsa

3,527 posts

243 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
FredClogs said:
If eye pokes were legal in the UFC (kicking to the legs, and knees is) then the guy with the best MMA would still win (mma largely being a mix of good kick boxing, BJJ and wrestling). Besides eye pokes do happen all the time in MMA, the reason they're not allowed isn't because they instantly win fights, which they may do in the street but against a pro fighter you will really just piss him off, it's because they can damage peoples long term quality of life. And in a street fight could be the difference between an affray or ABH charge and a malicious wounding or GBH charge.

Fella, seriously go to any Boxing, Thai boxing, Kick boxing, Judo, wrestling or BJJ club where they actual spar and see how far poking people in the eyes gets you, it might take someone by surprise and you might win your first round, but your novelty move will soon wear off.

Enough already this whole conversation is so very last century...
Fred, you misunderstand. The clip was hoping to prove that traditional Chinese MA could defeat a 'modern' MMA fighter. Wing Chun uses eye gouges(not pokes), knee kicks and groin kicks, and is a traditional MA. If the bout had between a Wing Chun master and an MMA guy, each fighting according to their code's rules, it might have been closer.
Because eye gouging and groin strike are some ancient technique only TMA practitioners know?

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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I got in a fight last night. After a good few minutes tussle, including a period where I ended up chasing them down I unfortunately ended up on my back with my assailant on top.

In my defence she is only 2 years old so I was going a bit easy on her, but next time I'll be breaking out the serious moves.

Sheets Tabuer

18,956 posts

215 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Depending on your level of expertise you could use the ancient move known as blowing on the belly, I have had to resort to it with my 2 year old when I feared for my life and she was left incapable of fighting in short order.

Hoofy

76,350 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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biggrin I find the 8 finger death tickle is a great move when you're pinned down.

Sa Calobra

37,119 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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I employ the ancient Chinese 'turbo hands of spider tickle'.

It's a devastating move on a 7yr old assailant biggrin

I also find that shouting the intended move as he runs at you causes the opponent to weaken

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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I have heard of the blowing on the belly but I thought that you had to have a good 6 months training before you were able to undertake such a move with the required poise and restraint.
Obviously for our more powerfully built and hardened members such restraint and controlled force comes naturally, but being a mere mortal I am worried that I might be too effective without the necessary control and commanding presence.

Hoofy

76,350 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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With suitable training and a focused mind (brought about through a decade of meditation in full lotus position), amidst the turmoil of combat, you can perform "Family of Caterpillars" with your fingers.

CoolHands

18,618 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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ahahahahhahhhhaaaaaa

https://youtu.be/af0g53JMXqk


alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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CoolHands said:
ahahahahhahhhhaaaaaa

https://youtu.be/af0g53JMXqk
aha glasshoper biggrin

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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CoolHands said:
ahahahahhahhhhaaaaaa

https://youtu.be/af0g53JMXqk
Pretty ambitious to try to deploy a spinning back kick in a street fight!

This is why a high kick is not a good idea imho.

The guy in black shorts was more intelligent - low push kicks to maintain distance, and low side kicks to the leg.



CoolHands

18,618 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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I love his twirling!

biggrin



Edited by CoolHands on Thursday 1st June 15:46

DoubleSix

11,714 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Pretty ambitious to try to deploy a spinning back kick in a street fight!

This is why a high kick is not a good idea imho.

The guy in black shorts was more intelligent - low push kicks to maintain distance, and low side kicks to the leg.
Your use of the word 'deploy' is incredibly generous I must say...