280i FHC Re-trim Starts

280i FHC Re-trim Starts

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v8s4me

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Thursday 23rd March 2017
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After months of delays the re-trim can now start. A trial fit of all the repaired but untrimmed panels shows just how poor the build quality was on these cars.

These are the rear side panels which are supposed to be a tight fit to the glass. But the only way these will fit snugly up to the glass is if there is a little cut-out behind the ‘B’ post, see photo…



Where the side panels screw to the ‘B’ post there is a 20mm gap which really needs a spacer to stop the thin lip on the panel being stressed and eventually cracking or breaking off. Not a difficult thing to repair but now let’s do the job properly…



The same applies to the top of the ‘B’ post trim panel..



The securing screws for both these panels go through the bodywork but are hidden by the exterior ‘B’ post trim panel. Of course this means they can allow any water which gets behind the exterior trim panel to track back into the car. Hopefully the ply packers will stop that.

It’s the same with the panel which runs along the back of the wheel well. The back edge of this is supposed to be a snug fit against the glass but the only way that can happen is by cutting a notch at each end so the panel can fit around the recess the glass sits in.



Because the side panels are attached to the rear panel the whole lot relied on just two self-tappers through the lower lip on the rear panel into a stiffening web molded into the body. I’ve made two alloy plates to cover the voids behind the wheel arches. These provide secure independent mounting points for the side panels and rear panel…



TVR did actually mould a couple of blocks of wood onto the rear of the tub to screw the rear panel to. Not surprisingly the single screw they put in here was in the wrong place. Now we have two screws centered on the middle of the blocks.



Now all the panels are positively secured in several places. Next step is to take them all off again and trim them. First though I need to work out how to deal with the "shelf".

It always makes me smile when I carefully measure and centre something on a TVR then stand back to see it never looks like it's in the centre laugh


Edited by v8s4me on Friday 24th March 00:01

MADNESS

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241 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Seems we are both restoring FHC at the same time, though you seem about a month ahead of me!
Today was a good day as I've got my tasmin FHC running at last!!

Keep posting up your findings, I'm following with interest.

v8s4me

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Saturday 25th March 2017
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Today was about trying to work out how to deal with the "parcel shelf" (what do yo call this area?).

My "shelf" is flat from the back of the seats to the wheel-well so I've cut sheets of 3mm ply to cover this area. More sheets of ply cover the tub behind the seats and the rear facing part of the wheel-well. These sheets will be covered in carpet and will be stuck to sound-deadening material which in turn will be stuck to the tub...





I'm a bit stuck on how best to deal with this section...



Any suggestions?

mrzigazaga

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165 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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v8s4me said:
I'm a bit stuck on how best to deal with this section...



Any suggestions?
Hi Joe


What bit are you actually talking about?...The gap between the wood?...The rear trim?....or the wood itself?....


Your doing a fabulous job by the way...smile

v8s4me

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Saturday 25th March 2017
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mrzigazaga said:
...What bit are you actually talking about?......smile
The gap between the wood and the rear side trim, outlined in the red triangle, and the curved bit of the rear side trim outlined in the red rectangle.



This flap of sound-deadening will be glued to the tub but I'm unsure how to finish it off. I could use carpet but that might affect how the ply sits against the body. Or I could use vinyl.

Another issue is how to screw the ply backed panel to the tub. The bottom bit is safe but higher up the petrol tanks sit against the other side of the tub.

mrzigazaga said:
....Your doing a fabulous job by the way...smile
Thanks bow but you might want to wait and see what it looks like when I'm finished laugh



v8s4me

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Sunday 14th May 2017
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I've finally plucked up courage and cut some vinyl. Mainly because of trying to minimise waste I've started with the strip down the side of the tailgate, the 'B' post/window piece and the rear edge of the roof.



It doesn't look much but it's taken most of the day because I've no idea what I'm doing and I'm making it up as I go along. Many thanks to Zigga for the help and tips thumbup

This little section in the corner is still causing a lot of head scratching.




v8s4me

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Friday 2nd June 2017
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More progress on the re-trim this week. I opted for a non-standard trim around the roof/doors by making a continuous vinyl piece which runs from the side of the dash, up the 'A' post, along the roof/door line and into the area at the top of the 'B' post...







More vinyl and scrim across the rear roof moulding and across the angled part at the front of the roof down to the screen.





This then leaves a flat rectangular space in the roof where a pad of foam covered with headlining material can be glued. The theory being that this will give a more "luxurious" fininsh and help with sound and heat insulation.

The rear wheel arches are now carpeted and the ply and foam pad which will cover the shelf is now ready for carpet.



More progress next week hopefully if the rain holds off.

mrzigazaga

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165 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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v8s4me said:
More progress on the re-trim this week. I opted for a non-standard trim around the roof/doors by making a continuous vinyl piece which runs from the side of the dash, up the 'A' post, along the roof/door line and into the area at the top of the 'B' post...



Hi Joe

I have been wondering about the A pillar trim...I had an idea but will think about it a bit more before I rattle on.....smile

Your doing a great job mate...smile

v8s4me

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Saturday 3rd June 2017
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This is the pad to cove the shelf...





The carpet is only held on with staples at the moment so that's why there are a few wrinkles but overall it looks like it should work well.

v8s4me

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Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Looking OK I think. The photo shows the new back panel in place as well.


v8s4me

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Friday 9th June 2017
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Insulation and carpet on one side of the transmission tunnel today...







If you were unhappy with the outcome of the election for whatever reason I can recommend putting your head in the foot-well with a tin of glue for an afternoon. After that everything will be just fine cloud9

mrzigazaga

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Friday 9th June 2017
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v8s4me said:
If you were unhappy with the outcome of the election for whatever reason I can recommend putting your head in the foot-well with a tin of glue for an afternoon. After that everything will be just fine cloud9
Thats what got us in this mess in the first place...smile

Doing a cracking job mate...thumbup

v8s4me

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Thursday 15th June 2017
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This is the panel which goes behind the seats...



The carpet is just pinned in place at the moment so that's why it looks a bit wrinkly. This panel looks fairly simple but it is actually very complicated because the carpet trim will have to be glued onto the ply backboard in stages to make sure it fits well all round. Working out what order to glue each section is part of what makes this bit time consuming and difficult.

Grady

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Friday 16th June 2017
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Are you going to add some hooks/cleats for a net tie-down?

v8s4me

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Friday 16th June 2017
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I had planned to and I even bought a net but the clips look quite ugly. Still thinking about it.

phillpot

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Friday 16th June 2017
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Looking good Joe, are you doing the red piping yourself?

v8s4me

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Friday 16th June 2017
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I've done it all bar the bit over the wheel arches. That is "proper" piping the rest is just a strip of vinyl stitched to the carpet and folded back around the edge of the backing board.

Grady

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Friday 16th June 2017
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v8s4me said:
I had planned to and I even bought a net but the clips look quite ugly. Still thinking about it.
If chrome doesn't work, maybe power coated in satin black. It would blend in better. Either way I'm most impressed!

alex_gray255

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205 months

Friday 16th June 2017
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Joe - When you get time, you can restore mine as well biggrin

v8s4me

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Friday 16th June 2017
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alex_gray255 said:
Joe - When you get time................
roflrofl