Purchase to die for
Discussion
J4CKO said:
I dont think people should be buried myself, whole swathes of land devoted to the dead, cant see the point, bodies should be cremated or other clean method of disposal.
I hate funerals, when anyone dies "Will be better once the funeral is over", well why have one, deal with the body in private and after a while perhaps have a celebration, no black clothes, no minister with a few things written down, no 15 minute service, no religion, no hearses, no coffins, no old blokes with impossibly hairy red boozers noses carrying the coffin yet looking at deaths door themselves, no flowers, no choked relatives reading eulogies.
The funeral practices these days are generally just watered down versions of a Victorian one and cost like 5 grand.
My mum's definitely wasn't.I hate funerals, when anyone dies "Will be better once the funeral is over", well why have one, deal with the body in private and after a while perhaps have a celebration, no black clothes, no minister with a few things written down, no 15 minute service, no religion, no hearses, no coffins, no old blokes with impossibly hairy red boozers noses carrying the coffin yet looking at deaths door themselves, no flowers, no choked relatives reading eulogies.
The funeral practices these days are generally just watered down versions of a Victorian one and cost like 5 grand.
No black clothes, several people in fancy dress and the 'highlight' was a man in a basque, stockings and suspenders singing sweet transvestite. I doubt I will ever go to a funeral like it again, but she was rather unconventional and that's what she asked for. I imagine it's fairly rare for the guests to be taking photos at a funeral, and my lasting regret - odd though it sounds - is that I didn't video the whole thing.
Obviously a death of a relative is hardly a happy occasion - but my mum sure knew how to have a good funeral / cremation. It was memorable for all the right kind of reasons.
It is something that will happen, and will cost money. I personally would rather not burden my family with the bills when the time comes. However, saying all that I have not sorted it out for myself. I am only early 30's and know I would like a woodland burial. Should have a proper conversation with the wife, see if she is keen and book a double plot. An awful thing to take about, and even approach, but I am a sensible, boring accountant!
Cost near me is £1400 each, but discounted if double plot, think you can pay 50% now and 50% on the day of death!. I figure, these costs are only going to go up in price. Hopefully we have another good 60 years left.
Having just had a daughter, what on earth do we do about this? force this idea onto her? make a plot available in case she would want it? I feel sick to the core thinking this, but be nice to be together, even though I am not spiritual.
Cost near me is £1400 each, but discounted if double plot, think you can pay 50% now and 50% on the day of death!. I figure, these costs are only going to go up in price. Hopefully we have another good 60 years left.
Having just had a daughter, what on earth do we do about this? force this idea onto her? make a plot available in case she would want it? I feel sick to the core thinking this, but be nice to be together, even though I am not spiritual.
joestifff said:
It is something that will happen, and will cost money. I personally would rather not burden my family with the bills when the time comes. However, saying all that I have not sorted it out for myself. I am only early 30's and know I would like a woodland burial. Should have a proper conversation with the wife, see if she is keen and book a double plot. An awful thing to take about, and even approach, but I am a sensible, boring accountant!
Cost near me is £1400 each, but discounted if double plot, think you can pay 50% now and 50% on the day of death!. I figure, these costs are only going to go up in price. Hopefully we have another good 60 years left.
Having just had a daughter, what on earth do we do about this? force this idea onto her? make a plot available in case she would want it? I feel sick to the core thinking this, but be nice to be together, even though I am not spiritual.
Our woodland burial plots come at a cost of £684 for each plot, we have to pay upfront and receive the purchase certificate for our side by side plots.Cost near me is £1400 each, but discounted if double plot, think you can pay 50% now and 50% on the day of death!. I figure, these costs are only going to go up in price. Hopefully we have another good 60 years left.
Having just had a daughter, what on earth do we do about this? force this idea onto her? make a plot available in case she would want it? I feel sick to the core thinking this, but be nice to be together, even though I am not spiritual.
We are now in process of buying our pre purchase funeral plans, left it a bit late really but feel it is time to get on with it.
Waiting to hear how much the funeral plan will cost each, but it will be at today's prices and fixed.
As I mentioned earlier we want to arrange and pay now, we can then enjoy the rest of our lives without the worry or burden that we have pushed this business of life onto our two children.
We are both 66 years in May this year.
ps : regarding your daughter, let her decide for her wishes in due course with her future husband/ partner and perhaps her children, imo.
Edited by crankedup on Wednesday 19th April 11:29
Large Cardboard box (not an overpriced coffin that we all know doesn't get burnt but re-sold to the next mug)
Not at all religious service. In fact no service at all if it can be avoided. And no "wake" where you have to get a "spread" of those little triangle sandwiches and mini sausage rolls.
Cremation
Ashes to be chucked about at Silverstone. End of Hanger Straight just before the braking zone (or used for mopping up the oil from the back of an F1 car
)
Did consider Richmond Park, but apparently it's not allowed to sprinkle there as the stuff in us would upset the local environment balance. Seems fair enough.
Not at all religious service. In fact no service at all if it can be avoided. And no "wake" where you have to get a "spread" of those little triangle sandwiches and mini sausage rolls.
Cremation
Ashes to be chucked about at Silverstone. End of Hanger Straight just before the braking zone (or used for mopping up the oil from the back of an F1 car
)Did consider Richmond Park, but apparently it's not allowed to sprinkle there as the stuff in us would upset the local environment balance. Seems fair enough.
t where I end up after I throw in the towel 
Soon after Mum was cremated, I arranged to give myself to medical science. As I saw Mum exiting via the crem chimney, I thought 'What a waste'. Rather than donate my bits (probably u/s anyway), I can help train lots of students and so help lots of others. And I can leer at folk from my jar.
I always thought of burial as very wasteful, of valuable land and of hard won funds.
We should develop this arrangement. Have a tubular coffin, like a giant cigar tube. Put the body in it and fit the cap. Use one of those augur jobs to drill a hole, pop in the tube and fill the top of the hole. With a little bribery in the right place, an unpopular person could go in head down.
I always thought of burial as very wasteful, of valuable land and of hard won funds.
We should develop this arrangement. Have a tubular coffin, like a giant cigar tube. Put the body in it and fit the cap. Use one of those augur jobs to drill a hole, pop in the tube and fill the top of the hole. With a little bribery in the right place, an unpopular person could go in head down.
crankedup said:
Not the happiest subject for discussion, but it is part of life I suppose. Wife and I have opted for a woodland burial and are in process of purchasing our plots. We are also intending to take out a funeral plan or a outright pre-purchase of our wishes.
Looking at funeral plans they all seem to be around the same exorbitant cost, however for us the motivation is once all is purchased we can forget about it. Our family will not be burdened emotionally or financially when the day of reckoning arrives.
The question is which funeral director to choose, television documentary a few years back revealed some bad practices by one National well known brand. So a case of pick a straw.
Why do you care about where you are buried when you are dead and have no awareness of where your body is...Looking at funeral plans they all seem to be around the same exorbitant cost, however for us the motivation is once all is purchased we can forget about it. Our family will not be burdened emotionally or financially when the day of reckoning arrives.
The question is which funeral director to choose, television documentary a few years back revealed some bad practices by one National well known brand. So a case of pick a straw.
Is the motivation that it will be a nice place for the kids to visit you, or do you believe in reincarnation type deal or something else?
My father's requested to be used for medical research too. Hoping he's got it all sorted so my brother and I can just press the go button.
I have no dependants so not too worried about what comes next. I think I'd prefer to be planted than burnt though, seems a bit more eco-friendly being tree and worm food than soot up a chimney.
I have no dependants so not too worried about what comes next. I think I'd prefer to be planted than burnt though, seems a bit more eco-friendly being tree and worm food than soot up a chimney.
Vacuum sealed like a nice steak and popped in a lead lined timed capsule for years to come. I'll wear a fleshlight, monocle and a hat at a jaunty angle. Hopefully it'll be interesting when I'm stumbled on by "Numans" and they can try and work out wtf was going on back in these times.
Medical research donations are many times turned down. It is sad but cutting up old bodies is not ideal even for med students. What they really want are younger ones or those with some special reason.
Of course those with brain or diseases that there is still a benefit to study will have bits taken. The rest is cremated.
Many med schools do not do dissection now as they use other means.
My daughter was picked to go to Grenada where she did do a lot of dissection as part of a research project. They had a lot of bodies which were provided by an American company and were flown in from New York especially for the job.
A relation of mine did donate her body and it was used.
Of course those with brain or diseases that there is still a benefit to study will have bits taken. The rest is cremated.
Many med schools do not do dissection now as they use other means.
My daughter was picked to go to Grenada where she did do a lot of dissection as part of a research project. They had a lot of bodies which were provided by an American company and were flown in from New York especially for the job.
A relation of mine did donate her body and it was used.
LordGrover said:
My father's requested to be used for medical research too. Hoping he's got it all sorted so my brother and I can just press the go button.
I have no dependants so not too worried about what comes next. I think I'd prefer to be planted than burnt though, seems a bit more eco-friendly being tree and worm food than soot up a chimney.
Eco friendly? Embalmed, put in a wooden box and buried 6 feet down? Not really. Takes years and years for a body to rot in those conditions.I have no dependants so not too worried about what comes next. I think I'd prefer to be planted than burnt though, seems a bit more eco-friendly being tree and worm food than soot up a chimney.
If you're going eco friendly then having your body left above ground is the best option, get eaten by animals, bugs etc etc.
Cremation is the way forward, cardboard box, minimal chemical processes on the body (get cremated soon after death). Leave your organs to the donor scheme if they're wanted and off you go.
hyphen said:
crankedup said:
Not the happiest subject for discussion, but it is part of life I suppose. Wife and I have opted for a woodland burial and are in process of purchasing our plots. We are also intending to take out a funeral plan or a outright pre-purchase of our wishes.
Looking at funeral plans they all seem to be around the same exorbitant cost, however for us the motivation is once all is purchased we can forget about it. Our family will not be burdened emotionally or financially when the day of reckoning arrives.
The question is which funeral director to choose, television documentary a few years back revealed some bad practices by one National well known brand. So a case of pick a straw.
Why do you care about where you are buried when you are dead and have no awareness of where your body is...Looking at funeral plans they all seem to be around the same exorbitant cost, however for us the motivation is once all is purchased we can forget about it. Our family will not be burdened emotionally or financially when the day of reckoning arrives.
The question is which funeral director to choose, television documentary a few years back revealed some bad practices by one National well known brand. So a case of pick a straw.
Is the motivation that it will be a nice place for the kids to visit you, or do you believe in reincarnation type deal or something else?
a sustainable zero impact upon the local environment.
a couple of trees will be planted in recognition of our woodland burial.
a far less austere place for visitors.
I was the architect introducing the concept behind woodland burials to England.
Butter Face said:
If you're going eco friendly then having your body left above ground is the best option, get eaten by animals, bugs etc etc.
Hopefully a long way off but I must admit something about a sky funeral that I think is the way for me. Logistically difficult but nothing is impossible.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff