Help identifying grandfather clock?

Help identifying grandfather clock?

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mattman

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3,176 posts

222 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Lee have inherited a grandfather clock which I know nothing about and would like to find out a little more.
It says "Lees, Bury" on the face but no other marks I can find.
It works and chimes, but does ideally need some restoration to make perfect - but not sure if it's worth investing in

Anyone know how to find out more about these things? Google is a minefield when you aren't sure what to search for!!



guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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I did similar a few years back - I found this site about the best to start at ......

http://www.clockmakersandrepairs.co.uk/page6.htm

Type of dial and it's decoration is the first giveaway.

Main thing is to see if it's a "bitsa" or not. The movement will almost certainly have the makers mark engraved on it.

Good luck and enjoy the journey it's fun thumbup

babelfish

922 posts

207 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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https://archive.org/stream/librarychronicle34univ/librarychronicle34univ_djvu.txt said:
On Tuesday last the constable of Bury went to execute a warrant
on one Lee(s), a clockmaker of that place for disobeying an order
of court. As soon as he entered the room he rushed on them with
a sharp knife, stabbed one of the constables in the breast and
wounded the other, and it was with great difficulty he was secured.
He is now lodged in the Manchester house of correction. '^

speedyman

1,525 posts

234 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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babelfish said:
https://archive.org/stream/librarychronicle34univ/librarychronicle34univ_djvu.txt said:
On Tuesday last the constable of Bury went to execute a warrant
on one Lee(s), a clockmaker of that place for disobeying an order
of court. As soon as he entered the room he rushed on them with
a sharp knife, stabbed one of the constables in the breast and
wounded the other, and it was with great difficulty he was secured.
He is now lodged in the Manchester house of correction. '^
Doing Time then.

babelfish

922 posts

207 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.

zb

2,648 posts

164 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
Yes, on the face of it.

dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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zb said:
LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
Yes, on the face of it.
His defence statement was "somebody pulled my chain, I was wound up"

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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dickymint said:
zb said:
LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
Yes, on the face of it.
His defence statement was "somebody pulled my chain, I was wound up"
You've got to hand it to them.

clockworks

5,361 posts

145 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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I've repaired plenty of English longcase clocks. Never seen a maker's mark or name on the movement. Quite likely to be some repairers marks though. There will probably be a maker's name on the falseplate (the iron plate between the dial and the movement), but most were made in a few factories in the Birmingham area.

The majority of white dial longcase clocks were assembled and finished by the clockmaker, using a kit of parts bought from a factory. Dials were bought in too, although the painted decoration may have been added locally.

Cases were usually made to order by a cabinet maker, the clockmaker just cutting the cheeks and seatboard to fit the movement and dial.

The clockmaker had very little input on these late longcase clocks. Quite different to earlier clocks, where many parts were made in-house, by hand or with rudimentary machines.

Still nice objects though, and worth saving. If it needs work, find a one man band clock repairer to take care of the mechanical parts, and a furniture restorer/cabinet maker to do the case. Very easy to pay through the nose in some places. If it's working and keeping good time, and the case is solid, I'd leave it alone. If it's at all dirty, don't be tempted to oil it.

KAgantua

3,870 posts

131 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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LordHaveMurci said:
dickymint said:
zb said:
LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
Yes, on the face of it.
His defence statement was "somebody pulled my chain, I was wound up"
You've got to hand it to them.
The usual movement of stupid remarks I see frown

dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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KAgantua said:
LordHaveMurci said:
dickymint said:
zb said:
LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
Yes, on the face of it.
His defence statement was "somebody pulled my chain, I was wound up"
You've got to hand it to them.
The usual movement of stupid remarks I see frown
I'll second that.

dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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http://www.dialrestorer.co.uk/date-painted-dials/

I'd go for 1830+. based on the dial - but as I said earlier it may be a "bitsa"

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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That clock I posted was built by Lees in 1750 or so, so I doubt he was still alive and building clocks in 1830!

dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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guindilias said:
That clock I posted was built by Lees in 1750 or so, so I doubt he was still alive and building clocks in 1830!
It'll be a family name - business handed down Father to Son.

There's no way OPs clock is that old (at least the dial isn't.

Edited by dickymint on Tuesday 25th April 11:48

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Aye, I suppose that could well be the case - or it might well be a "Bitsa"!

dickymint

24,319 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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guindilias said:
Aye, I suppose that could well be the case - or it might well be a "Bitsa"!
Here's a "Lees" circa 1830.....

https://www.antiques-atlas.com/antique/lees_of_bur...

babelfish

922 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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guindilias said:
That clock I posted was built by Lees in 1750 or so, so I doubt he was still alive and building clocks in 1830!
His grandson was.

motco

15,946 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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LordHaveMurci said:
babelfish said:
speedyman said:
Doing Time then.
I guess someone had to chime in with that
Sounds like they had a good case.
It has the potential of being a long-case.