UK terror threat level raised to critical!

[Gio G]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40023488

I do hope this move is temporary...

[Uncle John]

Inevitable really.

Armed Police at my local train station today, not seen that before.

[sidicks]

Gio G said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40023488

I do hope this move is temporary...

On the radio they implied it has to be temporary as there isn't the resource to support the requirements on a long term basis.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

With the election in a couple of weeks it makes sense.

[Bigends]

This happened with the IRA years ago - we had light tanks at airports

[Globs]

The usual response to any trouble, faked or otherwise: taking away our freedoms .
Problem: Solution: Reaction, public manipulation 101.

Given the obvious false flags in Orlando and Sandy Hook the murder of our people in Manchester wasn't another one
After the 9/11 false flag however we should not dismiss the possibility.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/23/man22/

[BoRED S2upid]

ash73 said:

What's the point? How would it prevent the attack in Manchester?

It might have made him think twice who knows. Easy target without a single officer v easy target with armed army or police.

I think it's worth it for a while the army are sat in barracks training day in day out why not use them at key locations.

[mantis84]

Globs said:

The usual response to any trouble, faked or otherwise: taking away our freedoms .
Problem: Solution: Reaction, public manipulation 101.

Given the obvious false flags in Orlando and Sandy Hook the murder of our people in Manchester wasn't another one
After the 9/11 false flag however we should not dismiss the possibility.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/23/man22/

[Rovinghawk]

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

[WestyCarl]

ash73 said:

What's the point? How would it prevent the attack in Manchester?

I think it's more a visible re-assurance to the public.

I remember the Army doing the security checks at the Olympics due to the G4 fiasco, it probably made no difference but you did somehow feel safer.

[hyphen]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

With the election in a couple of weeks it makes sense.

Even more sense if your opponent is perceived as weak on defence.

[bitchstewie]

ash73 said:

What's the point? How would it prevent the attack in Manchester?

I've been to a couple of seminars where it was made clear that a lot of people are put off by any deterrence.

You could argue what difference men with guns make if your intention is to die anyway, but I think it's one where you have to leave it to the experts.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

hyphen said:

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

With the election in a couple of weeks it makes sense.

Even more sense if your opponent is perceived as weak on defence.

Yep - guard the polling stations against potential Labour voters.

[hyphen]

bhstewie said:

I've been to a couple of seminars where it was made clear that a lot of people are put off by any deterrence.

You could argue what difference men with guns make if your intention is to die anyway, but I think it's one where you have to leave it to the experts.

Did it cover people who believe dying would result in martyrdom and a place in Heaven for ever after?

[rival38]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA

Definitely wise to keep an open mind. There are many instances of terrorist activities having their origins and aims misunderstood and misreported. The problem is that when states have huge, secret, `black ops` budgets allocated to their `security forces` all manner of behind closed doors agendas become potentially enabled. Quite possibly, but not necessarily, without the knowledge of the elected politicians of the day.

The link above is a BBC 1992 documentary about just one such operation. The BBC still did journalism back then!

[valiant]

bhstewie said:

ash73 said:

What's the point? How would it prevent the attack in Manchester?

I've been to a couple of seminars where it was made clear that a lot of people are put off by any deterrence.

You could argue what difference men with guns make if your intention is to die anyway, but I think it's one where you have to leave it to the experts.

Also it frees up police resources as you'll now have soldiers guarding buildings, looking mean and moody but generally doing the boring deterrent stuff whilst allowing the police to run around nicking the bad guys.

[Rovinghawk]

WestyCarl said:

I think it's more a visible re-assurance to the public.

My grandmother wasn't reassured by the baby tank at Heathrow- it scared her. I'm sure she wasn't the only one to think that way.

I have huge respect for the army & its professionalism but I don't want to live in a country with soldiers patrolling the streets.

[MiniMan64]

Globs said:

The usual response to any trouble, faked or otherwise: taking away our freedoms .
Problem: Solution: Reaction, public manipulation 101.

Given the obvious false flags in Orlando and Sandy Hook the murder of our people in Manchester wasn't another one
After the 9/11 false flag however we should not dismiss the possibility.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/23/man22/

What freedoms have you lost?

[Tom Logan]

Globs said:

The usual response to any trouble, faked or otherwise: taking away our freedoms .
Problem: Solution: Reaction, public manipulation 101.

Given the obvious false flags in Orlando and Sandy Hook the murder of our people in Manchester wasn't another one
After the 9/11 false flag however we should not dismiss the possibility.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/23/man22/

Dude, stay off the acid for a day or so, stick with the weed.

[AshBurrows]

Globs said:

The usual response to any trouble, faked or otherwise: taking away our freedoms .
Problem: Solution: Reaction, public manipulation 101.

Given the obvious false flags in Orlando and Sandy Hook the murder of our people in Manchester wasn't another one
After the 9/11 false flag however we should not dismiss the possibility.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/23/man22/

I hope this post is made in irony. Otherwise you're a tremendous piece of st.