Sold car to trader; trader wants to reject?!?!?!?

[Mr Taxpayer]

I sold my car via auction on eBay. Buyer was the last bidder (or used sniping software). Car was handed over with no issues. Buyer said he also trades so he elected to have the yellow "Sold to trade" bit of the V5 filled in. Buyer was given plenty of opportunity to ask questions and even offered a test drive. Said he's in a rush, so was gone sharpish.

Next day he's texting saying he's not happy and wants to return the car. I sold at auction coz I wanted a quick sale and a reasonable price to be not bothered by tyre kickers, etc on Autotrader. By the time he contacts me, I've cancelled the insurance and sent of the 'Change of Keeper' slip so I tell him, 'no'. Now he's being a pain.

Thoughts? Advice...

[Caddyshack]

I thought with an auction, when it's gone it is gone?

How did he pay?

Is there an actual defect with the car that he is claiming?

Not 100% sure but stick to the sold as a trade deal, on your bike son...

[Mr Taxpayer]

paid cash. No defect.

There is a gas conversion, which doesn't pull as smoothly as the petrol under 1500rpm . However the gas conversion is like "eco mode", so it's never the same as full fat. Has claimed I tried to rip him off, but he paid £2500, and similar cars are going for £3300 on Autotrader.

[CubanPete]

Offer him £1500 for it back, to cover the overheads.

[Magic919]

He can't really claim to be a consumer, to gain rights, when he bought as a trader.

[InitialDave]

Yeah, that sounds like a solid case of "tough" to me.

If he'd bought it as a "normal" purchaser and paid by PayPal, he might have an avenue to go down (but quite possibly with little success).

I'd say no too.

[Mr Taxpayer]

I was thinking of offering him a good will gesture if he'd bought it as 'consumer' and put his name on the V5, but he told me he'd try the car and if he didn't like it he'd sell it on. IMHO, sell it on then.

[InitialDave]

Mr Taxpayer said:

I was thinking of offering him a good will gesture

I'd suggest the index and middle finger on one hand.

[Saleen836]

Or the buyer had a buyer for it to make a quick profit (as you said they are advertised for more on AT) and his buyer pulled out

[Loyly]

I love the delicious irony of a car salesman getting a taste of his own medicine.

[Trabi601]

Mr Taxpayer said:

paid cash. No defect.

There is a gas conversion, which doesn't pull as smoothly as the petrol under 1500rpm . However the gas conversion is like "eco mode", so it's never the same as full fat. Has claimed I tried to rip him off, but he paid £2500, and similar cars are going for £3300 on Autotrader.

Probably just needs a bit of a tweak in the LPG ECU.

However, you're a private seller, so unless you tried to hide any issues, and given his refusal to test drive, then tough.

Especially as he's a trader.

[rallycross]

A real trader would not try and use this tactic.

Is he a ?

Ignore him.

[Mr Taxpayer]

rallycross said:

A real trader would not try and use this tactic.

Is he a ?

Ignore him.

He did seem like one of the Valleys boyos that set up as a Trader so they can change their car every few months without having insurance hassles. One of my work associates is also a trader, and he has said the the same "sold to trade, suck it up". But he pointed out, if he passes it on, as a trader he's legally bound to provide it with a 3 month warranty.

[krisdelta]

rallycross said:

Ignore him.

Just this, cease communication / block number.

[anonymous-user]

Mr Taxpayer said:

He did seem like one of the Valleys boyos that set up as a Trader so they can change their car every few months without having insurance hassles. One of my work associates is also a trader, and he has said the the same "sold to trade, suck it up". But he pointed out, if he passes it on, as a trader he's legally bound to provide it with a 3 month warranty.

Your mate is wrong, there is no such legal requirement. I'd treat the rest of their advice with appropriate caution if they're a "trader" but don't know something that basic.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

Tell him to politely jog on. By politely, something along the lines of "I'm sorry you're not happy with the car, but it was sold as seen and in good faith. I am unable to accept any returns"
End all further comms.

It's good that he paid cash...some muppets accept Paypal leaving themselves wide open to a Paypal dispute and loss of money.

[TooMany2cvs]

Magic919 said:

He can't really claim to be a consumer, to gain rights, when he bought as a trader.

This, with bells on.

Mr Taxpayer said:

But he pointed out, if he passes it on, as a trader he's legally bound to provide it with a 3 month warranty.

No, he isn't.

[InitialDave]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

It's good that he paid cash...some muppets accept Paypal leaving themselves wide open to a Paypal dispute and loss of money.

That's not their fault, it's a condition of selling on Ebay that you must accept Paypal.

[Amused2death]

InitialDave said:

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

It's good that he paid cash...some muppets accept Paypal leaving themselves wide open to a Paypal dispute and loss of money.

That's not their fault, it's a condition of selling on Ebay that you must accept Paypal.

I thought the Paypal thing didn't apply to motors? Can anyone confirm this?

[Sheepshanks]

Mr Taxpayer said:

But he pointed out, if he passes it on, as a trader he's legally bound to provide it with a 3 month warranty.

I can't believe there are people still saying this.