Ramadan Kareem

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39,854 posts

196 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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themanwithnoname said:
Such as the USA, and China you mean? A facetious answer of course, but primary religion in a country has little bearing on whether capital punishment exists.

Don't be unpleasant, and with that, free speech is a wonderful thing, until you use it to drag down your fellow man, then it is the speech of division and of hatred, polarisation if you will, which helps no-one except the speaker.

Likewise, and because it is within the rules, the old rule for life 'just because you can, doesn't mean you should' should be your buffer.

For the record, even Saudi has tolerance for other religions, albeit not to be practiced openly, not with any artifact or symbol that is not Islamic.

Apologies, this is meant to be a thread about Ramadan, typically there is a sidetrack from the contingent who cannot be nice or better, be quiet.

Not long until sundown now guys.
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I'm currently catching up with work stuff (year end is a PITA) and the mind is drifting towards food.... my eldest has baked my favourite (Home made cheese, onion, and potato pie) which i shall probably be having with mash. lick

themanwithnoname

1,634 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Sounds good to me! Save us a slice! 😁

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
Having the right to free speech is very important but what comes with it is the responsibility to use your free speech for good rather than promote hatred which is something that a lot of people forget.
No it's not.

And who gets to decide what the good is.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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themanwithnoname said:
For the record, even Saudi has tolerance for other religions, albeit not to be practiced openly, not with any artifact or symbol that is not Islamic.
I don't want to start a fight, and I know wikipaedia is hardly reliable, but that entry doesn't look much like "tolerance" to me. If muslims in Britain were forced to live under those kinds of restrictions they would, quite rightly , be up in arms about it.

Emanresu

311 posts

89 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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voyds9 said:
Emanresu said:
Having the right to free speech is very important but what comes with it is the responsibility to use your free speech for good rather than promote hatred which is something that a lot of people forget.
No it's not.

And who gets to decide what the good is.
It's common sense. Posts like tear down all the mosques and deport the muslims, which I see a lot of on here are not a good use of free speech. It's hate speech, plain and simple. If I started saying all the churches should be torn down (which I don't think), then there would be an uproar.

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
It's common sense. Posts like tear down all the mosques and deport the muslims, which I see a lot of on here are not a good use of free speech. It's hate speech, plain and simple. If I started saying all the churches should be torn down (which I don't think), then there would be an uproar.
Of course that sort of thing is like you say hate speech. That would be actively calling for the physical targeting of a group of people based on belief set which is abhorrent.

It doesn't stop someone calling someone else's god a sky fairy though. That's not hate speech. We are all perfectly entitled to laugh at the stuff others believe in, the moment we try to discriminate against them for it is when we have crossed the line. Religion deserves and should require no protection from free speech, to ask for it would show a healthy disrespect of free speech and free society.

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
I'm surprised any muslims bother to post on this website anymore given the attitudes of many of the posters and the failure of the website management to do anything about it. I converted to Islam a few years ago and it really let's you see how some people are.

Ramadan Kareem brothers and sisters
The hardest time of year as well. It is not my faith, but I have much respect for those that can manage it.

Can I ask a naive question? What is the difference between Ramadan Mubarack (?) and Ramadan Kareem ?

shirt

22,554 posts

201 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Ramadan Mubarak: have a blessed Ramadan

Ramadan Kareem: may Ramadan be generous to you

wack

2,103 posts

206 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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quote=Emanresu]I'm surprised any muslims bother to post on this website anymore given the attitudes of many of the posters and the failure of the website management to do anything about it. I converted to Islam a few years ago and it really let's you see how some people are.

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It's a car forum , I don't see what religion is doing on here at all

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196 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Vaud said:
Can I ask a naive question? What is the difference between Ramadan Mubarack (?) and Ramadan Kareem ?
Not naive at all....I'd assumed they meant the same thing but it seems not

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/809994/ramadan...

Every day's a madrasah day wink

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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shirt said:
Ramadan Mubarak: have a blessed Ramadan

Ramadan Kareem: may Ramadan be generous to you
Thanks.

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Countdown said:
Vaud said:
Can I ask a naive question? What is the difference between Ramadan Mubarack (?) and Ramadan Kareem ?
Not naive at all....I'd assumed they meant the same thing but it seems not

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/809994/ramadan...

Every day's a madrasah day wink
Thanks, and a mild and respectful "lol" at the madrasah comment.

Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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wack said:
It's a car forum , I don't see what religion is doing on here at all
If cars are not one of your religions you should not be here

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Dixy said:
wack said:
It's a car forum , I don't see what religion is doing on here at all
If cars are not one of your religions you should not be here
Perhaps we should ask the watch forum why they are here also.

Enjoy Ramadan boys & girls. I am questioning whether I should run a marathon or two.

texaxile

3,290 posts

150 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Met a mate at the gym today who's observing Ramadan. We had a chat, he said it's pretty tough and has decreased his training session accordingly to avoid dehydration, but this time of year is ideal for helping him get "ripped".

When I lived in Oman, Ramadan came with it's own set of challenges, not least the lovely smell of food coming from every angle in the evening and being invited out to friends houses every night (which usually ended up staying until late).

Ramadan Mubarak smile



NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
Having the right to free speech is very important but what comes with it is the responsibility to use your free speech for good rather than promote hatred which is something that a lot of people forget. Just a guess, but I don't think you've been in many Countries where Islam is the dominant religion? Tolerance towards other religions is widely taught. My wife is a Christian! Islam doesn't teach you to treat women badly, it teaches you to respect them. Yes, there are assholes who will beat their wives but that is nothing to do with religion, it's just assholes being assholes. Something that is widely seen all over the world regardless of religion. Yes capital punishment does exist but take a look at America. Why just criticize Islam, why not criticize America too? Rather than letting the British media brainwash you, I suggest that you research things for yourself, go into the world with open eyes and see things for what they are.
rofl

Thanks for the laugh.

Roofless Toothless

5,662 posts

132 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Before this thread goes off in the usual direction, I have always understood that there are dispensations about the day long ban on food and drink for children, invalids, etc. who may be adversely affected. As the idea of a fast started in countries much further to the south of us, where seasonal variations in day length are much less pronounced, are there also dispensations for people in more northern latitudes? Not meaning to be facetious, but I presume there aren't a lot of Muslim Eskimos.

As an aside, Bob Geldof's autobiography (if I am permitted to utter his name on Pistonheads) has a nice story about Lent. He was raised in a very poor, but very strict, catholic family. He wanted nothing to do with it all as a young man, of course. When his mum and dad asked him what he was giving up for Lent, he answered "grapes", knowing full well they never had so much as a single grape in the house as they couldn't afford such a luxury. When Lent began his dad went out and bought the biggest bunch of grapes he'd ever seen and put them on a bowl on the sideboard. Young Bob was the only one in the family who didn't get to eat any.

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Got a hard training session today, not looking forward to it at all. Ramadan is hard, no two ways of looking at it. Plus training is usually hard.


fizz47

2,672 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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Ramadan Kareem / Mubarak everyone...

Not easy this year ..

Who is finding that they are not hungry when it's time to start the fast...

What's everyone eating at 2.30 am?


Sa Calobra

37,119 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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May you have a peaceful Ramdan smile