Any other expectant Dads?

Any other expectant Dads?

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Gary29

4,155 posts

99 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Congrats guys!

It's took around two months for it to really sink in for me now since she was born, but I'm completely besotted with her, so don't worry if that magical bond that everyone speaks about doesn't hit you from day one, it will come, the moment they smile at you for the first time will get you laugh


Lazadude

1,732 posts

161 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Sure, although you need to be friends with one other person who will be in the group to create the group... So that counts me out as creating it lol.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Anyone else getting fed up of the endless illnesses

Had about 5 weeks of coughs/colds/conjunctivitis/foot and mouth between our 4 years and 8 months year old !! We have 4 kids so are used to it, but its back to back illness!!

Was doing OK, until ive started to get the dreaded cough as well and cant shake it.

We were also lucky as our youngest has slept really well and even looked forward to going to bed....not anymore since being ill, up all night every night !!

Come Xmas day me and the misses are just going to collapse, which is a shame as we both love Christmas

samsock

234 posts

66 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Had a private scan and was quite amazed at the high resolution. Refresh rate wasn't bad either. I've certainly seen worse on pirate bay. How on earth a baby could already be growing bones, hands, arms, after a couple of months, just blows the mind. Though I was imagining some kind of goo slowly rearranging itself into a human, I suppose it's more like a plant seed, where the complexity is already present from the start, and it just kind of unfurls.

Bloody hell I don't know what to think it's all a bit of a trip.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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samsock said:
Bloody hell I don't know what to think it's all a bit of a trip.
It's amazing at every single step.

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Lazadude said:
Sure, although you need to be friends with one other person who will be in the group to create the group... So that counts me out as creating it lol.
Just found this out.. If anyone fancies it, add me 'Jonny Wright' and my profile picture is myself, my wife and little man.

Then we can get a group going smile

Lazadude

1,732 posts

161 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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clicky Link for FB group encase anyone wants to join.

snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Request sent!

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Thanks for joining so far Dads, I've added a question to the joining of the group - But it's pretty easy..


havoc

30,062 posts

235 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
totally disagree. People assume it's impossible to take a < 6 months baby out for a meal or on holiday, but it's not true. People get freaked out about these things but for the first 6 months you can continue to do the things you want to do with the Mrs, no problem. It's what happens after that that is more restrictive, so 6 months before the birth is more like the last year or so of relative freedom!
Depends if Mum is breast-feeding or not (as that restricts the time you can be away from the baby, e.g. for a meal out, and also what any babysitter can do to settle the baby if it stirs).

Depends how much grandparental support you've got to hand...or not!

Depends how well the baby sleeps / WHEN the baby sleeps (note: that keeps changing as the weeks progress)

You CAN do all of those things, with help, but the Mum may well end up on-edge / 'on call' or just not really having a break.

(Note: for 'meal out' I'm reading as a decent evening meal out somewhere, not a slightly-rushed lunch somewhere pram-friendly, which is entirely possible but often a lot less satisfying than it used to be. We've found that brunches work well for us, for example, lunches are a gamble but can work, while early dinners are usually troublesome and anything 'evening' is still a write-off after 5 months)



Conversely, after 6-months:-
- The baby is weaning, so will be eating mushed everything. Lots of people can feed while babysitting. And the baby can be sat-up in a high-chair if out with you.
- Sleep patterns tend to settle down, making evenings a little more predictable.
- The baby is starting to lose the attachment to Mum, so will be more amenable to babysitters.


Ref: holidays - we went away with J when he was 4/5 months old (on our own - grandparental help abroad not really an option here!), and whilst it was a break in the sun it was also hard work for Becs and she felt she spent half her days inside feeding J...second time around we're waiting until +/- 9 months.


(Which is as nice a way I can find to almost totally disagree with you...possibly due to differing circumstances more than anything else wink )

havoc

30,062 posts

235 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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samsock said:
Had a private scan and was quite amazed at the high resolution. Refresh rate wasn't bad either. I've certainly seen worse on pirate bay. How on earth a baby could already be growing bones, hands, arms, after a couple of months, just blows the mind. Though I was imagining some kind of goo slowly rearranging itself into a human, I suppose it's more like a plant seed, where the complexity is already present from the start, and it just kind of unfurls.

Bloody hell I don't know what to think it's all a bit of a trip.
The complexity is hidden inside the 'code', but yes - it's bloody amazing how it all develops over 9 months!

Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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havoc said:
Blown2CV said:
totally disagree. People assume it's impossible to take a < 6 months baby out for a meal or on holiday, but it's not true. People get freaked out about these things but for the first 6 months you can continue to do the things you want to do with the Mrs, no problem. It's what happens after that that is more restrictive, so 6 months before the birth is more like the last year or so of relative freedom!
Depends if Mum is breast-feeding or not (as that restricts the time you can be away from the baby, e.g. for a meal out, and also what any babysitter can do to settle the baby if it stirs).

Depends how much grandparental support you've got to hand...or not!

Depends how well the baby sleeps / WHEN the baby sleeps (note: that keeps changing as the weeks progress)

You CAN do all of those things, with help, but the Mum may well end up on-edge / 'on call' or just not really having a break.

(Note: for 'meal out' I'm reading as a decent evening meal out somewhere, not a slightly-rushed lunch somewhere pram-friendly, which is entirely possible but often a lot less satisfying than it used to be. We've found that brunches work well for us, for example, lunches are a gamble but can work, while early dinners are usually troublesome and anything 'evening' is still a write-off after 5 months)



Conversely, after 6-months:-
- The baby is weaning, so will be eating mushed everything. Lots of people can feed while babysitting. And the baby can be sat-up in a high-chair if out with you.
- Sleep patterns tend to settle down, making evenings a little more predictable.
- The baby is starting to lose the attachment to Mum, so will be more amenable to babysitters.


Ref: holidays - we went away with J when he was 4/5 months old (on our own - grandparental help abroad not really an option here!), and whilst it was a break in the sun it was also hard work for Becs and she felt she spent half her days inside feeding J...second time around we're waiting until +/- 9 months.


(Which is as nice a way I can find to almost totally disagree with you...possibly due to differing circumstances more than anything else wink )
again not sure if i agree. Mums are perfectly able to feed when out and about, but appreciate they may not want to (although this is a real shame for them). This is a choice people make, but it isn't really having a baby that dictates which way people go; it's more what's going on in the parent's head, what led them to have certain attitudes and beliefs. Take the point regarding Mum's anxieties etc, but new parents should not be listening to anyone telling them they can't do XYZ about socialising or continuing some aspects of their pre-baby life. The only thing constraining or enabling it is yourselves. Babies sleep a lot, but even so they don't need to be asleep when you are off doing things. You might be scared of them crying, but again this is a choice people make based on what they want to do (or try to avoid). On the grandparent support thing, wasn't what i was meaning. Again people shouldn't be feeling they can only do things if they can offload the baby to someone else (although this is important once they are 1 year old + or whenever). My advice is to just get out there and do things. You'll never get used to it if you don't, and it's important to have a gradual transition because by the time they are getting towards a year old it is a lot more complex to handle, and the original things you were stressed about won't have gone away anyway, and there will be other things to cope with on top. I know people that are effectively shut-ins because their kids aren't used to being out in public, and now they find it really difficult to socialise as a family. I am not saying this is due to the above as it's impossible to say X caused Y, and equally I am not saying you'll get the same result if you don't heed the advice or whatever, but people absolutely freak out too much and taking the easy option can often cause problems later. I hope this hasn't offended anyone as it isn't my intention - i am really trying to help people realise that the life they have post-kids is the one they create for themselves.

Shakermaker

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11,317 posts

100 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Lazadude said:
clicky Link for FB group encase anyone wants to join.
I'm in. Great idea

jdw100

4,111 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
totally disagree. People assume it's impossible to take a < 6 months baby out for a meal or on holiday, but it's not true. People get freaked out about these things but for the first 6 months you can continue to do the things you want to do with the Mrs, no problem. It's what happens after that that is more restrictive, so 6 months before the birth is more like the last year or so of relative freedom!
Yep, not sure where this idea of fragile little mustn't take them out of the house creatures comes from?

Our little nipper has recently turned one. Her first proper day out was a very long lunch last Dec24th at a Four Seasons.

She's been regularly to beaches since her second month, very used to being passed around for various people to have a hold from a young age.

First flight she was four months old (I think?), she's been on quite a few since then....including LionAir!

Was feeding local cows some grass from her hand at 8 months, Been going in our pool from three months old...loves it!

My wife does a lot of meeting up with friends at various restaurants and often takes her. She comes with us to hang out at beach/day clubs for afternoons etc...

I go out for coffee most mornings and she has been joining me in a baby carrier or in push chair, again from a few months old.

Only had two trip on the bike (scooter) so far though....just to local shops.

Comes out for lunches and dinners, never thought not to bring her really....unless the two of really us fancy some time together.


Got to say - best thing I've ever done!

Edited by jdw100 on Monday 17th December 10:50

Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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ask yourself what action would take if you found a positive for say Downs. If you would terminate, then go ahead. If you wouldn't, then don't bother with the tests. It's the same for the others. The rarer but more terminal disorders are tested under the NHS anyway.

jdw100

4,111 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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Yes, we had the full battery of the latest ones.

One of the reasons being I'm an older dad (50).

We also wanted total piece of mind and had already agreed as a couple that we would abort if we found issues that were likely to cause the kid problems in life. Sounds harsh but we talked about it and that was the outcome.

All came back clear!

Not in UK, so it wasn't that expensive - struggling to remember how much but certainly under a couple of hundred quid.

Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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The test identifies 99%, but not all, of the fetuses with trisomy 21, 97% of fetuses with trisomy 18 and 92% of fetuses with trisomy 13.
I might just do it to keep the missus happy.
Look at the wording. It only mentions how many positives it finds, not how many negatives it is mistaken about.

eatontrifles

1,442 posts

234 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Shakermaker said:
I'm in. Great idea
Agreed, also sent a request to join.

Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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you just need to understand why you are doing it, and what you will get out of it.

If you are going to use the test results to take action (i.e. terminate a positive result), you need to understand that the high accuracy in trapping true positives may (stress, may) come with a high risk of a false positive (i.e. test says positive but baby does not have the condition in reality). So, you'll need to ask them what the false positive stats are because in that instance you would be to terminating a healthy baby. If the missus isn't planning on taking action and just wants to know, then there is a definite argument to say that she won't actually know... it's all just percentages. You may end up with a result something like the baby is 60% likely to have this condition. I guess what I'd be thinking is what do you actually do with that info as it won't help you to prepare mentally or otherwise, and actually you just paid to make yourself worry more. Aside from all that, the invasive tests you may need to get a slightly more accurate result if the earlier tests determine an elevated this, the tests themselves bring an active risk of miscarriage.

You may have worked this out already from my thoughts above but we decided we wouldn't take action, and decline the option of tests that serve only to determine the need for invasive tests for particular conditions e.g. Downs. People make their own choices however.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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No unless you have real concerns I wouldn't bother, thats my opinion , just keep it simple, if you have concerns or a family history thats a different issue