Moped gang rob Porsche driver at knife point for watch

Moped gang rob Porsche driver at knife point for watch

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Gio G

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2,945 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/terrifying-mo...

I suspect you need to keep those windows closed during the summer months going through towns, otherwise these scumbags will take your watch.. I wish someone just rammed them off their bikes!

What would you have done seeing this, like the person filming it?

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Kawasicki

13,077 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Third world tastic

BoRED S2upid

19,669 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Didn't look too terrifying to me. Why doesn't the Porsche driver just drive off? Porsche V Scum on a moped I know which one is going to come off worse.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Surely these rules need to be looked at again. As it stands the scumbags on mopeds know they can get away with almost anything.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/am...

madala

5,063 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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These scooter gangs are seriously out of control here in London and the police won't give "hot pursuit" so these scumbags know there is little chance of being caught ........ I would quite happily try and knock them of their scooters which have often been stolen ........ these scum deserve to die.

dudleybloke

19,798 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Full left hand lock then reverse.

fido

16,790 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I'm currently quite depressed and angry so luckily for them I don't have a nice Porsche - would have rammed them into the car in front.

Debaser

5,743 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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That video would have been a lot more entertaining if he'd turned around and driven into them.

Puggit

48,414 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Something is distinctly broken if the law does not blame the criminal, in the act of committing or leaving the crime scene, for their own death.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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There are circumstances where pursuits against mopeds can be justified.

Here's one such instance: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/dramatic-heli...

Unfortunately due to the nature of a lot of law being based on outcome, there's a element of luck in terms of what degree of investigation an officer may face.

If I use contact like the above and there's no harm to the riders, then there shouldn't be too much of an issue, although a fair bit a of paperwork since it's a collision.

However, if one of them loses balance after the contact, falls hits his head on the pavement, fractures his skull and dies, then I'd likely face years of investigations. Nothing more fun than not knowing whether you'll be prosecuted for years after doing your job.

For all the benefits of investigating when the police cause serious injuries to the public, it's a system which offers no incentive to take risks such as pursuing mopeds.

Much better to 'clothesline' them when on foot. Although if they're wearing helmets it can bruise the forearm, so I am told wink

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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time to allow handguns again.

andymc

7,347 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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have they caught any of these yet? Are they home grown criminals

Pan Pan Pan

9,870 posts

111 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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We seem to be in a period of scooter based crime at the moment. I watched a video of a scooter rider, who walked into the road in front of a car pushing his scooter, who then proceeded to ram it backwards into the front of the car, and then fall into the road as though he had been injured. Out of the woodwork pops another piece of sh*t with his mobile phone camera held up, shouting don't worry I have got this all on camera. The woman who was driving the car then points out to the pair, that she has got the `WHOLE' (not just the bit with the scooter rider wriggling on the ground) incident recorded on her dash cam. At this point the pair of sh*ts disappear in opposite directions, double quick. Unfortunately, like them or loath them, there does seem to be some merit in having a dashcam (even if it is not even turned on), with scum like those described above on the roads.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Guess youve seen this image

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-406580...

What do you do in that situation?




hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Pan Pan Pan said:
We seem to be in a period of scooter based crime at the moment.
Moment? Its been going for last few years, the only change has been the acid attack making in international news.

The strange things is that normal perception is that London makes tackling an issue a priority when the rich are affected, rather than the poor.

Whereas the hunting ground for moped crime has been mainly high end luxury good shops and mugging people on the streets of Chelsea and nothing much was done.

Oakey

27,552 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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hman said:
time to allow handguns again.
Right, because what was really missing here was a shootout in the middle of the street

rallycross

12,781 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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some stats below from the Police this week on London moped/bike crime and mobile thefts, alarming numbers. A dramatic change in approach is needed, they know they can get away with it at the moment, clearly becoming more brazen, more prevalent by the month. If there is no risk they will keep on increasing.


Figures released by the Met which show
thieves are stealing around 1,500 scooters or motorcycles in London every month.

police are targeting at least 500 known offenders behind the crime spree

criminals are using scooters or pedal cycles to commit 2,500 theft offences a month, most of them mobile phone snatches.

Thefts involving mopeds or motorcycles are currently running at 13,005 over the past 12 months,

a 41 per cent increase over the previous period.

Commander Julian Bennett, who is in charge of Operation Venice, said: “This is coming up to 50,000 crimes a year so this is a significant issue.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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madala said:
These scooter gangs are seriously out of control here in London and the police won't give "hot pursuit" so these scumbags know there is little chance of being caught ........ I would quite happily try and knock them of their scooters which have often been stolen ........ these scum deserve to die.
Damn, you're scary

Pan Pan Pan

9,870 posts

111 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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hyphen said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We seem to be in a period of scooter based crime at the moment.
Moment? Its been going for last few years, the only change has been the acid attack making in international news.

The strange things is that normal perception is that London makes tackling an issue a priority when the rich are affected, rather than the poor.

Whereas the hunting ground for moped crime has been mainly high end luxury good shops and mugging people on the streets of Chelsea and nothing much was done.
Indeed, I was in Sicily around 6 years ago, and apparently according to the locals scooter crime, was a problem there even then. So you are right, generally it is nothing new, except for the acid throwing aspect of some of the latest crimes.

Hoofy

76,323 posts

282 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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It's always two people on a moped. ALWAYS.

IT'S NOT fkING DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.