Another basic pensions question

Another basic pensions question

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thismonkeyhere

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10,327 posts

231 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I feel I should probably know this, and if not then I should get professional advice, but in the meantime:

After the end of my service career, during which I paid attention to only one pension aspect, I now find myself making my way in the world in 'proper' jobs and so far, and forecast, I have been/will be moving between organisations every 2-4 years, and so will end up with a bunch of small pension funds.

Should I merge these into one somehow?

If not, what happens at retirement time? Does one just add up all the little funds to reach a total with which to buy an annuity?

Thanks.

otherman

2,191 posts

165 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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It's normally quite straightforward to move the money from one scheme to the next as you move, and keep all the money together. Much easier to keep track of. Just call the two pension schemes to find out their process for moving. The company you leave will be quite happy to lose that admin burden.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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OP
1. There is a transfer fee which isn't inconsiderable/to the point in some examples you'd simply never move it.
2. Eggs not all in one basket is also a good idea
3. Consolidating them might save on number of contacts but is it really that much effort?
4. Lots of very small value pensions might be worth consolidating or have them paid into one pension fund you want so constantly run 2 then when you move to next company move that into the cumulative pot.

98elise

26,499 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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Are you happy managing a SIPP?

If so then I would consolidate them into a single SIPP as you move companies.

If not then leave them as individual pensions so that you have a number of seperate pots growing.

Do not buy an annuity BTW. They are terrible value IMO.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th July 2017
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98elise said:
Are you happy managing a SIPP?

If so then I would consolidate them into a single SIPP as you move companies.

If not then leave them as individual pensions so that you have a number of seperate pots growing.

Do not buy an annuity BTW. They are terrible value IMO.
I'd say you need to evaluate all options at the time you are planning to retire. Annuity could be great drawdown could be great etc.

JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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thismonkeyhere said:
I feel I should probably know this, and if not then I should get professional advice, but in the meantime:

After the end of my service career, during which I paid attention to only one pension aspect, I now find myself making my way in the world in 'proper' jobs and so far, and forecast, I have been/will be moving between organisations every 2-4 years, and so will end up with a bunch of small pension funds.

Should I merge these into one somehow?

If not, what happens at retirement time? Does one just add up all the little funds to reach a total with which to buy an annuity?

Thanks.
You need to check there are no benefits (such as guaranteed annuity rates or life insurance) that you would lose upon switching to one provider. These used to be offered many, many years ago, but not for a long time now. Do check.

Putting them all into one often makes sense and is not the same as putting all your eggs in one basket as the pension provider is simply administrating, it it the underlying investments that provide the diversification.

A SIPP will give you more flexibility than a traditional personal pension plan and now days they are cheap (even free in many cases). You can also keep your pension fund invested in retirement and 'drawdown' an income from it. This means the money is still their to leave to dependents should the worse happen. With an annuity your money is gone on day one. You can weight up these options closer to retirement.

Hargreaves Lansdown gets very good reviews if you want to select your own investments within your pension. Parmenion is very good if you want it managed for you (and ironically, this is cheaper than using HL and doing it yourself!). There are, of course, many other providers you can look at.

Shout if you have any other questions.

otherman

2,191 posts

165 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Welshbeef said:
OP
2. Eggs not all in one basket is also a good idea
This is DC we're talking about here. Eggs are in as many baskets as you like.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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otherman said:
Welshbeef said:
OP
2. Eggs not all in one basket is also a good idea
This is DC we're talking about here. Eggs are in as many baskets as you like.
The performance of each fund will be different so spreading the risk.