A bit council (Vol 3)

[Antony Moxey]

nonsequitur said:

Proliferation of tattoos at the world cup, (and managers!) I guess every country has a council element.

You were laughing at the Argentine manager too last night then!

[austinsmirk]

Re: flags.

I've been thinking about this and partially because this week I've been listening to Professor Elemental on Alexa (see steampunk thread) quite a lot at home.

I think as a nation- all 4 bits of it- we had a great flag, the Union flag. and we waved it well. it looked good. A great colour scheme.

We had the pride of the nation. the endless conquests of our country and empire. We've got the Queen: no one does royality like us.

But its all gone pear shaped as everyone decided to do their own thing. We're not Great Britain anymore are we ?

we're left with a rubbish St Georges cross flag (The Muslim, turkish, Palestine bloke who never came here)

Fundamentally we've a terrible flag and the notion of empire flag waving and power has gone.


now we're a crappy country struggling with Brexit and trade deals- which I still firmly believe no one wanted, because the average Brexit voter was a flag waving racist who for once in their life, left their pit and voted: because they thought it was about immigration.


so, vauxhall cars and council estates would look an awful lot better if the union flag was flying, is my point

[V8mate]

austinsmirk said:

Re: flags.

I've been thinking about this and partially because this week I've been listening to Professor Elemental on Alexa (see steampunk thread) quite a lot at home.

I think as a nation- all 4 bits of it- we had a great flag, the Union flag. and we waved it well. it looked good. A great colour scheme.

We had the pride of the nation. the endless conquests of our country and empire. We've got the Queen: no one does royality like us.

But its all gone pear shaped as everyone decided to do their own thing. We're not Great Britain anymore are we ?

we're left with a rubbish St Georges cross flag (The Muslim, turkish, Palestine bloke who never came here)

Fundamentally we've a terrible flag and the notion of empire flag waving and power has gone.


now we're a crappy country struggling with Brexit and trade deals- which I still firmly believe no one wanted, because the average Brexit voter was a flag waving racist who for once in their life, left their pit and voted: because they thought it was about immigration.


so, vauxhall cars and council estates would look an awful lot better if the union flag was flying, is my point

You fking metrosexual, liberal wker (teasing!)

'Great Britain' is a cosmopolitan conjuring trick; truly the remaining trinket of the empire we've clung on to.

Young people, today, brainwashed by an established political correctness, shame and enforced magnanimity, are far less likely to identify with the idea of the nation state. Anyone who says that they identify as 'European' really is an utter pramhandle.

And this situation genuinely weakens us. Lets hope that none of us live to see another major war, as there'll be no hands going up when the call for troops goes out.

Flying the English flag has become a council activity because, as a country. we have let it. The thinking classes have deemed national pride to be shameful, so only those with no shame continue to wave it. And, even though at heart I consider myself to be a foreigner in this land, I think it's really sad, as England has much to be proud of. I'm as proud to say I'm English as I am proud to be of the Fatherland.

[Europa1]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Because, football.

Using 'because' without 'it's'. 100% council to its core.

[anonymous-user]

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

[captain_cynic]

austinsmirk said:

so, vauxhall cars and council estates would look an awful lot better if the union flag was flying, is my point

Couldn't agree with you more here.

Flags have their place, outside of government buildings, post offices, schools and universities. Many universities are flying the union flag, county flag and their own sigil. Places like this are where flags look dignified and respectful.

Festooned across a council house with a England misspelled across it is as undignified as you can get.

[V8mate]

Europa1 said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

Because, football.

Using 'because' without 'it's'. 100% council to its core.

Things aren't council just because you don't like them [/brokenrecord]

[V8mate]

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Local band?

[popeyewhite]

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Diminishing self-respect and old enough to know better. All the kids will think "who's that old guy trying to be cool"

[V8mate]

popeyewhite said:

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Diminishing self-respect and old enough to know better. All the kids will think "who's that old guy trying to be cool"

The problem is, that kids aren't cool any more, so it's down to us oldies to keep on rockin'

[anonymous-user]

V8mate said:

popeyewhite said:

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Diminishing self-respect and old enough to know better. All the kids will think "who's that old guy trying to be cool"

The problem is, that kids aren't cool any more, so it's down to us oldies to keep on rockin'

Pops is right - one of my grads yesterday:

"Look at your haircut, your teal polo shirt with your tattoo sticking out the bottom, your trainers, and your campervan. Midlife crisis much?"

Cheeky little fker.

[Bullett]

For local people?

[nonsequitur]

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Musicians (and sailors) are allowed.

[V8mate]

nonsequitur said:

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Musicians (and sailors) are allowed.

And drummers too?

[nonsequitur]

V8mate said:

nonsequitur said:

OpulentBob said:

I'm just deciding on my third tattoo. Forearm sleeve, Mrs OB thinks it will look super-hot while I'm drumming. So: Tattoo, visible, loud antisocial musician.

Council. As. Anything.

Musicians (and sailors) are allowed.

And drummers too?

Well, alright then. But just a one off for Bob.

[kowalski655]

OpulentBob said:

Pops is right - one of my grads yesterday:

"Look at your haircut, your teal polo shirt with your tattoo sticking out the bottom, your trainers, and your campervan. Midlife crisis much?"

Cheeky little fker.

He aint far wrong though,is he

[HTP99]

Is it council if your house is worth circa £8 million?



I bet the neighbours are loving it!

[Wildcat45]

austinsmirk said:

Re: flags.

I've been thinking about this and partially because this week I've been listening to Professor Elemental on Alexa (see steampunk thread) quite a lot at home.

I think as a nation- all 4 bits of it- we had a great flag, the Union flag. and we waved it well. it looked good. A great colour scheme.

We had the pride of the nation. the endless conquests of our country and empire. We've got the Queen: no one does royality like us.

But its all gone pear shaped as everyone decided to do their own thing. We're not Great Britain anymore are we ?

we're left with a rubbish St Georges cross flag (The Muslim, turkish, Palestine bloke who never came here)

Fundamentally we've a terrible flag and the notion of empire flag waving and power has gone.


now we're a crappy country struggling with Brexit and trade deals- which I still firmly believe no one wanted, because the average Brexit voter was a flag waving racist who for once in their life, left their pit and voted: because they thought it was about immigration.


so, vauxhall cars and council estates would look an awful lot better if the union flag was flying, is my point

I agree with most of this re: the union flag. A jaunty internationally recognisable symbol of the UK, GB.

Although I am an Englishman, with a very ancient English surname with some knight ancestor who fought the French at Agincourt, there's a huge dollop of Scottish and Co Down Irish in my make up. Even a bit of Welsh I think.

An Englishman who is British. No problem at all with the union flag. I happily waved plastic ones at the Queen as a kid in 1977. I feel great when I see a union jack fluttering at how of a warship. I like the way it was used in the 1960s to become a style icon.

Be it a discreet addition to the tail of Campbell's Bluebird, or splashed all over a Mini roof - or even Austin Powers-style all over an E-Type, it looks great.

The union flag can be formal or fun. A dignified symbol of a nation or a design that can be used on anything from a kipper tie to Concorde.

In contrast, the St George's flag - which is an element of the union flag - looks challenging, aggressive, shouty bald white van driving lager swilling thick as fk council.

I could say the same for Scotland's flag. To me it represents loud challenging spoiling for a fight loutishness.

The Welsh dragon in contrast has a bit of humour about it though I suspect - but don't know - it probably gets draped out of local authority housing windiws in the rougher parts of the principality.

England and Scotland flags are council.

The Welsh flag? It looks good painted on the bow of HMS DRAGON but may be council.

The union flag - in general is not council.

Edited by Wildcat45 on Monday 25th June 10:24

[SpeckledJim]

Agree with the above.

It's a great shame, but the 'English' flag has been tainted.

In a sense it's a great coup by various groups of the wrong sorts - to commandeer and 'own' a whole flag and bend it to their purposes. Shame though.

[8Ace]

Football Lads Alliance.

Or, alternatively, a group of pissed-up shaved headed thugs with huge bellies telling brown people to go home and stating they're proud to be "infidels".