The windy winter and occasional snow thread 2017/2018
Discussion
eharding said:
Met Office 99% sure it's going to snow somewhere, for a bit, some time next week.
Yeah but not Wales, not anywhere, look at that line of not snow! 
You would think a little itty bit of snow would make it over the border, perhaps the toll on the bridge is still too high.
And it is missing Plymouth?
Puggit said:
Met Office have raised the cold warning to level 3: 'Severe Weather Action'
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/cold-w...
"This weather could increase the health risks to vulnerable patients and disrupt the delivery of services. Please refer to the national Cold Weather Plan and your Trust's emergency plan for appropriate preventive action."https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/cold-w...
When a predictive weather service is permitted to give unqualified advice concerning health warnings you realise why the country's screwed when we get 4cm of snow in urban areas. Don't get me wrong I think given the uncertainty and inaccuracy of models it's quite brave to put yourself in the firing line and suggest a certain type of weather is likely, but ffs sake stick to that - the NHS looks after the nations' health and even that struggles to get it right.
popeyewhite said:
"This weather could increase the health risks to vulnerable patients and disrupt the delivery of services. Please refer to the national Cold Weather Plan and your Trust's emergency plan for appropriate preventive action."
When a predictive weather service is permitted to give unqualified advice concerning health warnings you realise why the country's screwed when we get 4cm of snow in urban areas. Don't get me wrong I think given the uncertainty and inaccuracy of models it's quite brave to put yourself in the firing line and suggest a certain type of weather is likely, but ffs sake stick to that - the NHS looks after the nations' health and even that struggles to get it right.
It's talking about the effects of cold - not snow! When a predictive weather service is permitted to give unqualified advice concerning health warnings you realise why the country's screwed when we get 4cm of snow in urban areas. Don't get me wrong I think given the uncertainty and inaccuracy of models it's quite brave to put yourself in the firing line and suggest a certain type of weather is likely, but ffs sake stick to that - the NHS looks after the nations' health and even that struggles to get it right.
sherbertdip said:
Am I reading that chart correctly to say the NE of England is going to get some real snow and everywhere else is getting a few mm? I can't get excited about 6-7mm of snow, so disappointed 
Predicted snow falls at 7 days are not accurate. That's not really taking in to account 'lake effect snow' - anywhere east of the Pennines or across south central UK could get wallopped by a streamer.
Later on on Friday is showing possible snow that will make that chart look insignificant (for South England)
MentalSarcasm said:
I was trying to work out if the mm was rainful or snow, so would it be 9mm of rain, or 9cm of snow (following the person above who mentioned that mm rainful = closer to a cm snow).
Correct.Our normal snow (wet and around 0 degrees C) actually tends to be far less than 10:1. This will be more like dry, powdery, drifting snow (much lower temps/dew points). So more like 8:1 to 10:1 ratio.
Puggit said:
It's talking about the effects of cold - not snow!
I read it as the warning concerns cold, ice and snow. Anyway in the flavour of the warning although I'm not qualified in meteorology in any shape or form I feel obliged for the safety of the nation to predict we will actually get very little snow, so in line with Trust policy (see: Safe Practice edict #76911) point out anxiety is a proven precursor to heart failure hence the public should ignore spurious health warnings from unqualified bodies.
I'm going on a bit now, sorry.
The reason why they have to give a health warning for cold weather (even without snow), is because cold air is dangerous for people with asthma and chest infections. In cases of asthma in particular is can trigger asthma attacks so it's worth informing people in advance so they can make sure the keep an inhaler with them (for example) and get it stocked up in advance if they're running low.
MentalSarcasm said:
The reason why they have to give a health warning for cold weather (even without snow), is because cold air is dangerous for people with asthma
Tenuous. So is jogging but the NHS doesn't warn against it.MentalSarcasm said:
and chest infections.
Hmm. May make you cough a bit more but "dangerous"? Come on. Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff