Woodland for sale - what do people do with it?
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Every now and then I pas a sign nailed to a tree by a road advertising woodland for sale. Presumably you can't develop it otherwise whoever owns it would be clearing it and selling it as building land, which leaves the intriguing question - what do you do with 1/4 acre (or however much it is) of woodland?
You can go and stand in it I suppose, but there are plenty of public woods you can go and stand in for free.
Really struggling to understand why anyone would want to buy a bit of woodland.
Anyone got any? What do you do with it? And what does it cost?
You can go and stand in it I suppose, but there are plenty of public woods you can go and stand in for free.
Really struggling to understand why anyone would want to buy a bit of woodland.
Anyone got any? What do you do with it? And what does it cost?
Ari said:
Every now and then I pas a sign nailed to a tree by a road advertising woodland for sale. Presumably you can't develop it otherwise whoever owns it would be clearing it and selling it as building land, which leaves the intriguing question - what do you do with 1/4 acre (or however much it is) of woodland?
You can go and stand in it I suppose, but there are plenty of public woods you can go and stand in for free.
Really struggling to understand why anyone would want to buy a bit of woodland.
Anyone got any? What do you do with it? And what does it cost?
A wise man once told me "They don't make land anymore"You can go and stand in it I suppose, but there are plenty of public woods you can go and stand in for free.
Really struggling to understand why anyone would want to buy a bit of woodland.
Anyone got any? What do you do with it? And what does it cost?
As far as I understand there are some tax or inheritance benefits that owning woodland offers. Although, just what I have heard on the grapevine rather than having any detailed knowledge.
Quick google found this -
"Where the next generation is considered, it is worth noting the tax benefits of a forestry investment. After two years commercial forests are entitled to 100 per cent business property relief, no capital gains, and relief from inheritance tax."
Quick google found this -
"Where the next generation is considered, it is worth noting the tax benefits of a forestry investment. After two years commercial forests are entitled to 100 per cent business property relief, no capital gains, and relief from inheritance tax."
Edited by FrankAbagnale on Thursday 21st September 14:04
I'd quite like to own a bit to build my own mini nature reserve. I'd like to put a poncy shed acting as a photography hide and use it, probably for personal use but I could take others there too. Would also be somewhere peaceful to get away for a night or two perhaps, although I may scrub idea that in favour of a nice hotel somewhere.
We used to have some, we kept pigs in it (documented on here somewhere).
There are strict rules about what you can do with 'amenity' woodland but you can put up 'forestry' buildings under permitted development rules (PD rules for woodland are specific, but you don't have to run a forestry business to put a building up, however it's supposed to be for the purpose of forestry) which for a lot of people include a few basics like a gas ring and a few chairs....
We don't have the woods anymore but we did enjoy spending time there.
There are strict rules about what you can do with 'amenity' woodland but you can put up 'forestry' buildings under permitted development rules (PD rules for woodland are specific, but you don't have to run a forestry business to put a building up, however it's supposed to be for the purpose of forestry) which for a lot of people include a few basics like a gas ring and a few chairs....
We don't have the woods anymore but we did enjoy spending time there.
In this country wild camping is mainly out of the question.
A couple I know bought a plot of woodland with a small stream, they are allowed to camp as much as they like now, make a fire, they have made a sort of pond, the stream runs in and out of, and can slightly swim/bathe in.
They have also erected a shipping container, near to where they camp, which is secure and they leave stuff they don't need to transport, so they can basically go at short notice.
I think they have around 6 acres of woodland, stream, and rough track access.
This for me, if I win the lotto, only I would probably drag a motor home in there somehow, and make a pond for me to fish, rather than swim..
A couple I know bought a plot of woodland with a small stream, they are allowed to camp as much as they like now, make a fire, they have made a sort of pond, the stream runs in and out of, and can slightly swim/bathe in.
They have also erected a shipping container, near to where they camp, which is secure and they leave stuff they don't need to transport, so they can basically go at short notice.
I think they have around 6 acres of woodland, stream, and rough track access.
This for me, if I win the lotto, only I would probably drag a motor home in there somehow, and make a pond for me to fish, rather than swim..
When my nephew was a little lad, he was sitting in the back of the car journeying along the Southend Road.
There were some big hoardings by the side of the road, advertising plots of land for sale.
The little fellow was just learning to read at school, and tried to work out what they said - but failed. So he asked mum and dad what they were about and was told that they were to tell people that the land there was for sale.
My nephew ruminated upon this for some time and then asked:
"But if you buy the land, how do you get it home?"
There were some big hoardings by the side of the road, advertising plots of land for sale.
The little fellow was just learning to read at school, and tried to work out what they said - but failed. So he asked mum and dad what they were about and was told that they were to tell people that the land there was for sale.
My nephew ruminated upon this for some time and then asked:
"But if you buy the land, how do you get it home?"
Quite hard to actually dwell in woodland, for obvious reasons, but hobby forestry is a thing:
http://www.woodlands.co.uk/owning-a-wood/woodlands...
http://www.woodlands.co.uk/owning-a-wood/woodlands...
Small woodlands have rocketed in price. They used to be seen as a pointless management burden by some farmers and landowners especially when they weren't planted up with neat rows of commercially valuable softwood in demand for the construction industry.
Since WW1 when the UK's forests were decimated to feed the war effort, and the need to turn woodland into pasture or arable land to increase agricultural productivity it means the UK is one of the least wooded areas in Europe.
It either appeals or it doesn't. I'd love a wood. You can't build in them but many people put up a 'store shed' based on permitted development planning rules which secretly houses a cheeky camping bed, chairs etc, or buy a cheap caravan and dump it there for overnighting. You have all the wood you'll need for heating a house and space/privacy away from the noise. Managing a wood is good for you (most small woodlands have been neglected and need work) plus it's not likely to lose value.
Shoot you air rifle in peace with mates. Build a mountain bike track. BBQ your tea and enjoy a beer under the stars. Potter about on your little tractor, trailer full of logs to sell to neighbours, whatever. Making zip-lines and tree houses with the kids.
-I'd rather be doing that than in my office right now. Fat and bored.
Since WW1 when the UK's forests were decimated to feed the war effort, and the need to turn woodland into pasture or arable land to increase agricultural productivity it means the UK is one of the least wooded areas in Europe.
It either appeals or it doesn't. I'd love a wood. You can't build in them but many people put up a 'store shed' based on permitted development planning rules which secretly houses a cheeky camping bed, chairs etc, or buy a cheap caravan and dump it there for overnighting. You have all the wood you'll need for heating a house and space/privacy away from the noise. Managing a wood is good for you (most small woodlands have been neglected and need work) plus it's not likely to lose value.
Shoot you air rifle in peace with mates. Build a mountain bike track. BBQ your tea and enjoy a beer under the stars. Potter about on your little tractor, trailer full of logs to sell to neighbours, whatever. Making zip-lines and tree houses with the kids.
-I'd rather be doing that than in my office right now. Fat and bored.
Edited by captainzep on Thursday 21st September 14:32
SE England small broadleaf woodlands are going for anywhere between £10-15k per acre.
Where I am in west Wales, I'll still need to find £40k for 3-4 football pitches worth.
Access is key. Geography too. -Many forests on flat land were felled for pasture. There's a lot of steep woodland that is fairly unusable in valleys and down to rivers.
Where I am in west Wales, I'll still need to find £40k for 3-4 football pitches worth.
Access is key. Geography too. -Many forests on flat land were felled for pasture. There's a lot of steep woodland that is fairly unusable in valleys and down to rivers.
captainzep said:
Small woodlands have rocketed in price. They used to be seen as a pointless management burden by some farmers and landowners especially when they weren't planted up with neat rows of commercially valuable softwood in demand for the construction industry.
Since WW1 when the UK's forests were decimated to feed the war effort, and the need to turn woodland into pasture or arable land to increase agricultural productivity it means the UK is one of the least wooded areas in Europe.
It either appeals or it doesn't. I'd love a wood. You can't build in them but many people put up a 'store shed' based on permitted development planning rules which secretly houses a cheeky camping bed, chairs etc, or buy a cheap caravan and dump it there for overnighting. You have all the wood you'll need for heating a house and space/privacy away from the noise. Managing a wood is good for you (most small woodlands have been neglected and need work) plus it's not likely to lose value.
Shoot you air rifle in peace with mates. Build a mountain bike track. BBQ your tea and enjoy a beer under the stars. Potter about on your little tractor, trailer full of logs to sell to neighbours, whatever. Making zip-lines and tree houses with the kids.
-I'd rather be doing that than in my office right now. Fat and bored.
You've been looking for a while now....Any joy?Since WW1 when the UK's forests were decimated to feed the war effort, and the need to turn woodland into pasture or arable land to increase agricultural productivity it means the UK is one of the least wooded areas in Europe.
It either appeals or it doesn't. I'd love a wood. You can't build in them but many people put up a 'store shed' based on permitted development planning rules which secretly houses a cheeky camping bed, chairs etc, or buy a cheap caravan and dump it there for overnighting. You have all the wood you'll need for heating a house and space/privacy away from the noise. Managing a wood is good for you (most small woodlands have been neglected and need work) plus it's not likely to lose value.
Shoot you air rifle in peace with mates. Build a mountain bike track. BBQ your tea and enjoy a beer under the stars. Potter about on your little tractor, trailer full of logs to sell to neighbours, whatever. Making zip-lines and tree houses with the kids.
-I'd rather be doing that than in my office right now. Fat and bored.
Edited by captainzep on Thursday 21st September 14:32
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