Show us your new shoes (Vol 2)

Show us your new shoes (Vol 2)

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Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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whilst the joke shoes bit is funny for a while it is a bit time consuming to flick through them all once it has stopped being funny.

Patch1875

4,894 posts

132 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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popeyewhite said:
Lucky you living in the Alps.
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Less people to see them?

Uppercut

118 posts

78 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Patch1875 said:
popeyewhite said:
Lucky you living in the Alps.
Less people to see them?
This thread is bhier than the watch thread.

Bean boots are extremely highly regarded waterproof handmade hunting boots by a very traditional company.

I needed some waterproof boots for outdoor pursuits during the winter.

Alps? They are not snow boots. Does it stay dry in your part of the country throughout the winter?

kelv_w

144 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Uppercut said:
This thread is bhier than the watch thread.

Bean boots are extremely highly regarded waterproof handmade hunting boots by a very traditional company.

I needed some waterproof boots for outdoor pursuits during the winter.

Alps? They are not snow boots. Does it stay dry in your part of the country throughout the winter?
Lol... luckily it's just the shoes and not your carpet

FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Blown2CV said:
i would have thought a nice touch by a bespoke shoemaker would be to give you a set of trees to fit your shoes as part of the deal, especially if part of the point of having bespoke is that they fit your feet perfectly rather than are made to a standard last.
They usually do, but I aquired these by chance as they were made for someone else and they didn't get to the stage of carving the trees. They just happen to fit me really well when I tried that at the factory, so I couldn't turn them down.

It was InductionRoar that recently got shoes made through the full bespoke process via George Cleverly

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Uppercut said:
This thread is bhier than the watch thread.

Bean boots are extremely highly regarded waterproof handmade hunting boots by a very traditional company.

I needed some waterproof boots for outdoor pursuits during the winter.

Alps? They are not snow boots. Does it stay dry in your part of the country throughout the winter?
You are new round these parts and are probably not accustomed to our particular brand of banter. I would, however, be careful to whom you suggest those boots are handmade - they most certainly are not.

Uppercut

118 posts

78 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Apart the rubber they are.

The rubber bottom of the Bean Boot is made by a machine, but after that it’s handmade by 200 people who split their time between three shifts. All in all, making the boot takes about 85 minutes’ worth of labor (not including the breaks in between stations). Royce Haines, the senior manager of manufacturing at L.L. Bean, describes it as “a mix of old and new technology”: While the boots aren’t made exactly as they used to be, the assembly process and sewing are all done by hand.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Uppercut said:
Apart the rubber they are.

The rubber bottom of the Bean Boot is made by a machine, but after that it’s handmade by 200 people who split their time between three shifts. All in all, making the boot takes about 85 minutes’ worth of labor (not including the breaks in between stations). Royce Haines, the senior manager of manufacturing at L.L. Bean, describes it as “a mix of old and new technology”: While the boots aren’t made exactly as they used to be, the assembly process and sewing are all done by hand.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/...
A very carefully worded and hugely misleading article.

They are not hand-stitched and the uppers are cut out with a press knife. No part of the process is done by hand.

FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Justin FitzPatrick (a.k.a. "The Shoe Snob") wrote an interesting article about shoes being described as hand made
http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2017/06/using-lies-...

For many manufacturers, they might use the phrase to describe an operator feeding the leather through a sewing machine and the sole through a Goodyear welting machine. However, for the purists, hand made means that a shoe maker has skilfully made the whole shoe using leather, hand tools, knives, nails, needle and thread.


Edited by FreeLitres on Thursday 9th November 23:23

Goaty Bill 2

3,404 posts

119 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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FreeLitres and InductionRoar said:
shoe stuff
PH - Pedantry matters biggrin

Remind me, should I ever be so foolish to begin with, not to argue with either of you about shoes, their construction or their manufacture wobble

Love the look of those G&Gs.


popeyewhite

19,805 posts

120 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Uppercut said:
Patch1875 said:
popeyewhite said:
Lucky you living in the Alps.
Less people to see them?
This thread is bhier than the watch thread.

Bean boots are extremely highly regarded waterproof handmade hunting boots by a very traditional company.

I needed some waterproof boots for outdoor pursuits during the winter.

Alps? They are not snow boots. Does it stay dry in your part of the country throughout the winter?
No, it's wetter than most places as I live up on the moors.

Apologies if I offended you, was really just gently pulling your leg.

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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As promised a thread update.



I chose not to repair my Hillwalker GTX's but treat my feet and replace them with Hillmaster GTX (boots not feet that is)



The Hillmasters have had a successful 1st outing and pleased to report the following

No blisters or chafing
Self cleaning treads
Better grip on muddy/grassy/wet slopes
Waterproof (bog, stream and long grass)

A little heavier than the old Hillwalkers but comfortable, my benchmark is 2yrs/2000 miles. If i exceed this I'll regard it as successful and worthwhile purchase. biggrin

Edited by PositronicRay on Saturday 11th November 15:00

FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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If you find something that works for you, stick with it!

Might you consider any leather protection this time around? I noticed your old ones looked a bit dried out and salt/water damaged.

I would probably go for some dubbin or a similar heavy duty water proofing if you are regularly getting them wet. I imagine it would make the upppers last that bit longer before cracking.

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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FreeLitres said:
If you find something that works for you, stick with it!

Might you consider any leather protection this time around? I noticed your old ones looked a bit dried out and salt/water damaged.

I would probably go for some dubbin or a similar heavy duty water proofing if you are regularly getting them wet. I imagine it would make the upppers last that bit longer before cracking.
I do use some cream from Brasher. I think this pair leaked in between the sole and upper, the leather has just rotted, probably didn't dry out properly.

DoubleByte

1,249 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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PositronicRay said:
As promised a thread update.



I chose not to repair my Hillwalker GTX's but treat my feet and replace them with Hillmaster GTX (boots not feet that is)



The Hillmasters have had a successful 1st outing and pleased to report the following

No blisters or chafing
Self cleaning treads
Better grip on muddy/grassy/wet slopes
Waterproof (bog, stream and long grass)

A little heavier than the old Hillwalkers but comfortable, my benchmark is 2yrs/2000 miles. If i exceed this I'll regard it as successful and worthwhile purchase. biggrin

Edited by PositronicRay on Saturday 11th November 15:00
I thought you had managed to polish it out until i read the text.

FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Does anyone own any premuim/interesting shoe trees?

I own loads of the Charles Tyrwhitt adjustable ones which are practical, fairly cheap and nicely fit all but one pair of shoes. I have recently been browsing for different types and some look really good. I particularly like the sleeker ones in special woods or stained like these;



Any brands I can search for?


InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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FreeLitres said:
Does anyone own any premuim/interesting shoe trees?

I own loads of the Charles Tyrwhitt adjustable ones which are practical, fairly cheap and nicely fit all but one pair of shoes. I have recently been browsing for different types and some look really good. I particularly like the sleeker ones in special woods or stained like these;



Any brands I can search for?
G&G.

If bought direct from Kettering they come unstained, if bought from Savile Row they come stained red. All G&G RTW lasts are the same, aside from the toecap, which does not require any support. G&G shoes are sleeker than most (all?) RTW shoes, with the Deco range being the sleekest of all, although they are MTO only.

I have an example of all three, which I can post photos/details for I any use? Unfortunately they are all in a 7E.

FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Thanks IR - I don't suppose you have any photos showing the underside and a side-on (instep side) photo of the standard RTW G&G trees?

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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FreeLitres said:
Thanks IR - I don't suppose you have any photos showing the underside and a side-on (instep side) photo of the standard RTW G&G trees?
I didn't, but just took these so please excuse the poor photos.




FreeLitres

6,042 posts

177 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Great, thanks for that. The red stain does look good too. I guess you haven't had any issues of the dye transfering to your shoe linings?