Building Up a Top Notch Car Sim Cockpit

Building Up a Top Notch Car Sim Cockpit

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m4tti

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5,427 posts

155 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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So Ive been thinking recently, with the roads as busy as they are, and the weather typically being rubbish, I wondered if id get more use of a top end car sim set up than I do from my actual real weekend car.

I drove at IZone in their simulator a year or so ago and really enjoyed it, and have kind of had it in the back of my mind ever since.

What would it take to put together a top-ish line car simulator/cockpit. Id want hydraulic pedals but not that fussed about the movement/motion element.

Software wise can anything now days running on a console compare to a PC based set up.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Simply Race in MK have 15? 20? Sims setup.

Worth dropping them a line and asking what their spec is or visiting in person?

Great wheels weights, good pedal feel etc. Think they use high end Thrustmaster???

http://www.simplyrace.co.uk/simulators

Rick101

6,969 posts

150 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Thrustmasterlaugh

I have TM, love it, great wheel, but a long long way from high end!

I got into Sim racing aroud 5 years ago. Had a bit of a lull these last two years but have decided to get into it again with some vigour.

Whilst the kit makes it exciting, it's the racing that makes it fun.

If you are wanting 'high end' stuff, there is lots available but be aware it will cost you more than a cheap track car.

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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How much do you want to spend? You can get something that more-or-less works for a few hundred quid, or you can spank 50 grand (or more I'd imagine) on a full-motion simulator. Where are you on that scale?

m4tti

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Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101 said:
Thrustmasterlaugh

I have TM, love it, great wheel, but a long long way from high end!

I got into Sim racing aroud 5 years ago. Had a bit of a lull these last two years but have decided to get into it again with some vigour.

Whilst the kit makes it exciting, it's the racing that makes it fun.

If you are wanting 'high end' stuff, there is lots available but be aware it will cost you more than a cheap track car.
Yeah a brief scan of the net, it does look that a top end set up is big bucks.

Going to have to make a price up to convince the home boss hehe

m4tti

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deckster said:
How much do you want to spend? You can get something that more-or-less works for a few hundred quid, or you can spank 50 grand (or more I'd imagine) on a full-motion simulator. Where are you on that scale?
I'm happy not to have full motion, but would like proper pedal feel hence would like hydraulic brake pedal.

Are most top end sims based on iRacing.

I think something I can build up/extend as I go would be good.

Edited by m4tti on Friday 1st December 14:47

mp3manager

4,254 posts

196 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101

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Friday 1st December 2017
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Have a think about what you want to achive.

Getting set up and racing is great fun. Building a top end rig is also great fun but very expensive.

All depends what your aim is.

Top end wheel servo for comparison. Obviously rim and other fittings are extra!

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...

GT1 Rim
http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...

m4tti

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mp3manager said:
Phwwwooooooaaaaarrrr

Now that is awesome. I'm not sure I'd sneak that past the home boss.

m4tti

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Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101 said:
Have a think about what you want to achive.

Getting set up and racing is great fun. Building a top end rig is also great fun but very expensive.

All depends what your aim is.

Top end wheel servo for comparison. Obviously rim and other fittings are extra!

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...

GT1 Rim
http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...
That again is impressively expensive.

I guess I'm looking to replicate as close as possible a real car feel... without spending huge amounts. I don't mind spending a few K.

Rick101

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150 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Honestly, I'd recommend buying 2nd hand, or 'Timeless' however you want to call it!

Quite regularly full rigs come up, often with motion for very reasonable money.

You could certainly get a base set up for 3 figures and add to it later.

Have you got a decent PC? Many are going to VR now but again it comes down to whether you want it to look shiny or want it to be fun.

I'm in the VR camp. Chasing GTE's through Eau Rouge at a night race is absolutely superb!

RacerMDR

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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which VR do you use Rick?

I've been asking a few friends about this.

The game is important - really if you want to use it as a SIM - you need access to the tracks that you will be racing later that month. I'm not sure if any of the games offer this feature in recent years.

I.e. - I want to test at Snett .........turn on, practice mode, Snett.

Rick101

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150 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Oculus Rift. Very cheap nowadays but you need a decent graphics card to power it. I think I'm running a 1060 or 1070. I wouldn't go any less than that.

m4tti

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Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101 said:
Honestly, I'd recommend buying 2nd hand, or 'Timeless' however you want to call it!

Quite regularly full rigs come up, often with motion for very reasonable money.

You could certainly get a base set up for 3 figures and add to it later.

Have you got a decent PC? Many are going to VR now but again it comes down to whether you want it to look shiny or want it to be fun.

I'm in the VR camp. Chasing GTE's through Eau Rouge at a night race is absolutely superb!
Yep I'm good with second hand. Where's best ... fleabay.

My pc now is too old, i had a Mac attack and went all apple, but think I'll need to be getting a decent pc again.

Rick101

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150 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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iRacing forums good but you need to be a paid up member.

If you're on facebook join 'sim Racing market' page.

m4tti

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Friday 1st December 2017
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Ahh haaa cool will join that group and see what's on there. Thanks very much

julian64

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254 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Any difference in compatibility between OR and VIVE in terms of the sims. I wanted to do this with project cars on a PC.

I have spent many hours on rfactor but never found the more modern sims as realistic. However for VR I think I'll need better graphics than rfactor

I was a bit put off VR when I saw a chap using an OR in MS flight simulator trying to interact with the cockpit dials. I assume there are no such problems with car sims

mp3manager

4,254 posts

196 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101 said:
Oculus Rift. Very cheap nowadays but you need a decent graphics card to power it. I think I'm running a 1060 or 1070. I wouldn't go any less than that.
I've got a reference 980 with my Rift and it's fine, although I wouldn't fancy going any lower than that. Due to cryptominers, 1070's are way over RRP, not so sure on the 1060. For just a few quid more, the 1080's seem better value/performance for VR.


skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Do you really need a hydraulic pedal? A lot of people are quite happy with a load cell brake

frisbee

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110 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Rick101 said:
Have a think about what you want to achive.

Getting set up and racing is great fun. Building a top end rig is also great fun but very expensive.

All depends what your aim is.

Top end wheel servo for comparison. Obviously rim and other fittings are extra!

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...

GT1 Rim
http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=...
That's surprisingly crude, just a brushless DC motor with position feedback and a motordrive. No gearing and no force sensor.