Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 5)
Discussion
Shakermaker said:
j_4m said:
. I'd like to see a drummer spend four hours playing with the sound of his snare for each single track.
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I wouldn't.. can you imagine getting stuck next to him at the bar? .
Soz, honestly all the drummers I know a good people, even if a few fit the stereotype.
I think that j_4m highlights the point I was trying to make, music is too manufactured, designed by committee, assembled by scripts. No talent or artistry going into the process. Same repetitive beat, no variance in melody... often no melody at all. No real song structure, it becomes difficult to tell the difference between a chorus and a verse and writing a good bridge seems to be a lost art and intros are going the same way.
All of this is due to the fact it's become cheaper to simply edit a song out of samples than go through the process of writing, playing, re-writing, playing and recording. Not to mention that a song written by employees means that you don't have to pay royalties.
It took 17 people to write Justin Bieber's Baby. Have a guess how many it took to write Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
This used to annoy me beyond reason, but then I realised that music itself had died and no-one noticed.
matchmaker said:
Lemming Train said:
^ My retaliation to that is to put my high beam back on when they're about 2 seconds from passing me. By the time they've fumbled about trying to give you a dose of the same they are past you 
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Yes .
captain_cynic said:
j_4m said:
As someone who actually makes electronic music (albeit a hobbyist) this is a shade unfair. There's nothing inherently wrong with drum machines and it's more than likely a stylistic choice over a cost one; Ariana Grande's record label can easily front the cash to record a session drummer. I personally put more effort into building each drum 'kit' than I know most real drummers put into tuning and setting up their physical drums. I'd like to see a drummer spend four hours playing with the sound of his snare for each single track.
You'll be interested to know that AI composed music is already a thing that exists and is currently being used quite a lot.
As someone who can actually play an instrument (guitar and a tiny bit of drums), I find it a more tad unfair to be lumped in the same group as people who cant. You'll be interested to know that AI composed music is already a thing that exists and is currently being used quite a lot.
And I know algorithm designed music is used quite a lot (it's not AI, they just use a script... I could write one in my sleep), it still doesn't make it any good.
Algorithmic music is very different to AI composed music, the former I've played around with in Pure Data and Max yet I wouldn't know where to start with building an AI. My particular niche of the music industry is investing in AI quite a lot.
captain_cynic said:
I think that j_4m highlights the point I was trying to make, music is too manufactured, designed by committee, assembled by scripts. No talent or artistry going into the process. Same repetitive beat, no variance in melody... often no melody at all. No real song structure, it becomes difficult to tell the difference between a chorus and a verse and writing a good bridge seems to be a lost art and intros are going the same way.
All of this is due to the fact it's become cheaper to simply edit a song out of samples than go through the process of writing, playing, re-writing, playing and recording. Not to mention that a song written by employees means that you don't have to pay royalties.
The writers on a track can get the lion's share of performance royalties, the record labels and publishers will normally nab all of the mechanicals. It's the 'artist' themselves that get bugger all, at least in most chart commercial releases. Don't blame the producers for the sins of the industry.All of this is due to the fact it's become cheaper to simply edit a song out of samples than go through the process of writing, playing, re-writing, playing and recording. Not to mention that a song written by employees means that you don't have to pay royalties.
Also, who needs melodies, structure, verses, choruses...
Edited by j_4m on Thursday 31st January 14:31
Edited by j_4m on Thursday 31st January 14:40
Women who wear tops with writing on them and then get visibly annoyed when one glances at the message.
Perhaps I should say "I'm reading your vegan/feminist/lifestyle nonsense and not gawping at your breasts - why wear the bloody thing if you don't want it read?"
Admittedly spending 10 minutes studying the 'nike' logo distorted out of shape would be poor form..
Perhaps I should say "I'm reading your vegan/feminist/lifestyle nonsense and not gawping at your breasts - why wear the bloody thing if you don't want it read?"
Admittedly spending 10 minutes studying the 'nike' logo distorted out of shape would be poor form..
Ebay's latest change to their charging structure...
If you sell internationally and offer airmail etc. as an alternative to their Global Shipping Programme you now have to pay an extra 30p for your items to be visible in the US & Canada.
If you only offer GSP then there's no charge, but GSP is expensive for your customers compared to airmail
I only found out when a couple of customers messaged me to say all my listings had disappeared
If you sell internationally and offer airmail etc. as an alternative to their Global Shipping Programme you now have to pay an extra 30p for your items to be visible in the US & Canada.
If you only offer GSP then there's no charge, but GSP is expensive for your customers compared to airmail
I only found out when a couple of customers messaged me to say all my listings had disappeared
Edited by MartG on Thursday 31st January 20:01
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Also, "'erbs". The word "Herbs" does not have a silent 'H'...
I have always assumed that they use the French pronunciation, and, as with other "Americanisms", that was how the British pronounced the word in the 18th century. Separated by the Atlantic, we changed, they didn't.Screwed up the quote.
Edited by gareth_r on Friday 1st February 00:08
gareth_r]lockwork Cupcake said:
Also, "'erbs". The word "Herbs" does not have a silent 'H'...
I have always assumed that they use the French pronunciation, and, as with other "Americanisms", that was how the British pronounced the word in the 18th century. Separated by the Atlantic, we changed, they didn't.
Similarly, people who have a go because you pronounce the h in certain words and say for example 'a historian' instead of 'an historian' with a silent h 'an 'istorian' I have always assumed that they use the French pronunciation, and, as with other "Americanisms", that was how the British pronounced the word in the 18th century. Separated by the Atlantic, we changed, they didn't.
captain_cynic said:
It took 17 people to write Justin Bieber's Baby. Have a guess how many it took to write Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
This used to annoy me beyond reason, but then I realised that music itself had died and no-one noticed.
17? Sure? This used to annoy me beyond reason, but then I realised that music itself had died and no-one noticed.
I am certain people have been complaining about music getting worse since the inception of music.
I also think opinions like this invariably ignore all the absolute rubbish that was being written in the same moment Bohemian Rhapsody was being written - we just never hear that stuff any more, it's long forgotten, and also ignore all the good stuff that is being released today and reference something they perceive to be an easy target, usually a pop song by someone who is young and making a lot of money.
Your whole argument is as formulaic as the music you are criticising.
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