What are your unpopular opinions?
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Front bottom said:
I believe in things beyond known science.
Does this mean you believe that there are questions science can't answer? Which is quite right.Or does it mean that you believe in a whole load of utter f
king made up bks that flies in the face of what science does know, using the pathetic mantra of "Well science doesn't know everything" which is fking obvious otherwise we wouldn't still be doing it. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbygriZT1Xw
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Wow.
It still doesn't seem real to me that Comrade Orange won, but you're right, Coulter was indeed an early advocate and was right on the money.
singlecoil said:
Plenty more I daresay indeed.
Read books by those people? I really don't think so. I'm not particularly interested in Intelligent Design but do have some passing interest in the psychology of people who do believe that stuff. What is your background may I ask, do you come from a religious family?
I wouldn't say I have a religious background. I am from a country with a secular education system. i am interested in your view and others as well. you basically say that you could not bother to read studies by those people but allow yourself to be in total disagreement with them without knowing anything of their research. D. Berlinski is an agnostic, so no religion involve for him. On my side, I do believe but I do like to question things. Religion is not my thing despite having a strong belief. Religion was invented by mens to glorify God their own way at their convenience. Not the way God asked. Read books by those people? I really don't think so. I'm not particularly interested in Intelligent Design but do have some passing interest in the psychology of people who do believe that stuff. What is your background may I ask, do you come from a religious family?
Still, I am interested in your view as psychology can be eye opening for many people.
Nietzsche said something very interesting which sadly happened:
"two things will happen, the 20th century will become the bloodiest century in history because the 19th century killed god and universal madness will break out."
Funny how people like to blame religions for wars when Hitler, Staline, Mussolini and Mao where all atheist (despite religious background for some of them)
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Blown2CV said:
Front bottom said:
I believe in things beyond known science.
so do scientists, you cabbage. It is the point of science; otherwise all science would stop. Jesus christ.I've said it before, that is very interesting behaviour.
Now if you'd said that you believe there are some things that would forever remain unexplainable by science, now that is something different entirely. You'd have to explain further on that, of course.
Blown2CV said:
you're mixing up aggression with other emotions, and to be honest I myself find that to be weird behaviour. I instead held (and continue to hold) a facepalming level of disbelief, but at least acknowledge you hold unpopular opinions. The reason for my disbelief is that you somehow believed in writing what you wrote that you were saying something enlightened, but instead it represents such a fundamental misunderstanding that one of the founding principles of science is that the method acknowledges and embraces imperfect knowledge. The inability to provide all the answers right now is not an effective criticism, and in using that concept to do some armchair refutation of the whole of science, to which you more than likely owe your life and all the lives of you family and friends, it is incredibly infuriating, that somehow with all the hard work and intelligence that goes into further scientific knowledge that someone can sit there in ignorance and just dismiss it all. That assertion aligns you with internet conspiracy theorists, antivaxers, trumpists and all those types of people. I hope you get what i meant now.
Now if you'd said that you believe there are some things that would forever remain unexplainable by science, now that is something different entirely. You'd have to explain further on that, of course.
That is what I actually meant, but I thought it would be too inflammatory, so I went with the softer option by mentioning known science (Or so I thought).Now if you'd said that you believe there are some things that would forever remain unexplainable by science, now that is something different entirely. You'd have to explain further on that, of course.
Front bottom said:
Blown2CV said:
you're mixing up aggression with other emotions, and to be honest I myself find that to be weird behaviour. I instead held (and continue to hold) a facepalming level of disbelief, but at least acknowledge you hold unpopular opinions. The reason for my disbelief is that you somehow believed in writing what you wrote that you were saying something enlightened, but instead it represents such a fundamental misunderstanding that one of the founding principles of science is that the method acknowledges and embraces imperfect knowledge. The inability to provide all the answers right now is not an effective criticism, and in using that concept to do some armchair refutation of the whole of science, to which you more than likely owe your life and all the lives of you family and friends, it is incredibly infuriating, that somehow with all the hard work and intelligence that goes into further scientific knowledge that someone can sit there in ignorance and just dismiss it all. That assertion aligns you with internet conspiracy theorists, antivaxers, trumpists and all those types of people. I hope you get what i meant now.
Now if you'd said that you believe there are some things that would forever remain unexplainable by science, now that is something different entirely. You'd have to explain further on that, of course.
That is what I actually meant, but I thought it would be too inflammatory, so I went with the softer option by mentioning known science (Or so I thought).Now if you'd said that you believe there are some things that would forever remain unexplainable by science, now that is something different entirely. You'd have to explain further on that, of course.
E34-3.2 said:
Funny how people like to blame religions for wars when Hitler, Staline, Mussolini and Mao where all atheist (despite religious background for some of them)
Dodgy ground there... Atheism has never caused any wars. Hitler was, of course, originally a Roman Catholic, but it was not because of this (or, for example, having a moustache) that he did what he did. Religion, however, can directly lead otherwise rational people to get involved with truly awful things or to turn to shocking extremist views. A great example is Cat Stephens, a seemingly well adjusted and wise musical artist who became apparently brainwashed into extreme religious beliefs and said some very troubling things.paulguitar said:
Dodgy ground there... Atheism has never caused any wars. Hitler was, of course, originally a Roman Catholic, but it was not because of this (or, for example, having a moustache) that he did what he did. Religion, however, can directly lead otherwise rational people to get involved with truly awful things or to turn to shocking extremist views. A great example is Cat Stephens, a seemingly well adjusted and wise musical artist who became apparently brainwashed into extreme religious beliefs and said some very troubling things.
A British philosopher said: the worst thing in not believing in God is that you start believing in anything (sorry can't remember the exact phrase).The lack of spirituality and morality in not believing has lead people such as Hitler, Mao and others to atrocities and "shocking extremist views". Nietzsche was right.
E34-3.2 said:
A British philosopher said: the worst thing in not believing in God is that you start believing in anything (sorry can't remember the exact phrase).
The lack of spirituality and morality in not believing has lead people such as Hitler, Mao and others to atrocities and "shocking extremist views". Nietzsche was right.
Just to clarify, you're saying the holocaust was caused by Hitler not attending a building on Sundays? The lack of spirituality and morality in not believing has lead people such as Hitler, Mao and others to atrocities and "shocking extremist views". Nietzsche was right.
E34-3.2 said:
paulguitar said:
Dodgy ground there... Atheism has never caused any wars. Hitler was, of course, originally a Roman Catholic, but it was not because of this (or, for example, having a moustache) that he did what he did. Religion, however, can directly lead otherwise rational people to get involved with truly awful things or to turn to shocking extremist views. A great example is Cat Stephens, a seemingly well adjusted and wise musical artist who became apparently brainwashed into extreme religious beliefs and said some very troubling things.
A British philosopher said: the worst thing in not believing in God is that you start believing in anything (sorry can't remember the exact phrase).The lack of spirituality and morality in not believing has lead people such as Hitler, Mao and others to atrocities and "shocking extremist views". Nietzsche was right.
Religion is there to answer all that cannot be explained. Also it acts as a control in that if people know they face eternal damnation for not following the rules whilst alive they are more likely to do so.
We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
Bright Halo said:
Religion is there to answer all that cannot be explained. Also it acts as a control in that if people know they face eternal damnation for not following the rules whilst alive they are more likely to do so.
We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
I’ve never understood why people have faith in something for which there is no evidence but fail to have to faith in their fellow man when the majority of us are decent people who generally do the right thing which we see all around us all of the time. I don’t need fear to make me do the right thing, I do it anyway.We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
djc206 said:
Bright Halo said:
Religion is there to answer all that cannot be explained. Also it acts as a control in that if people know they face eternal damnation for not following the rules whilst alive they are more likely to do so.
We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
I’ve never understood why people have faith in something for which there is no evidence but fail to have to faith in their fellow man when the majority of us are decent people who generally do the right thing which we see all around us all of the time. I don’t need fear to make me do the right thing, I do it anyway.We are now at a time when the lack of religious belief will bring forth another active theory and belief system.
Have a read of the book “Biocentrism” by Bob Lanza. Incredibly thought provoking and a challenge to all things science currently accepts.
paulguitar said:
That's one of the more disturbing posts I have read. I think I am going to bail out of this one, there is simply no point in trying to reason with someone displaying such illogical views.
Interesting, someone who doesn't reason your way is disturbing to you. Your view is a bit extremist to me, I don't like your thinking so I hate you basically... Many people regards Nietzsche as a great philosopher and that was his thinking as an atheist. So no offence but that thinking is not of me but of your fellow atheist human being. Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff