What are your unpopular opinions?
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aaron_2000 said:
Just to clarify, you're saying the holocaust was caused by Hitler not attending a building on Sundays?
I believe someone with a belief in God could not have caused the holocaust (if you read a Bible, it is actually impossible for a Christian to think like Hitler about the Jews). Not sure what you are on about in a building on Sunday? to be a Christian you have to attend a church? E34-3.2 said:
I believe someone with a belief in God could not have caused the holocaust (if you read a Bible, it is actually impossible for a Christian to think like Hitler about the Jews). Not sure what you are on about in a building on Sunday? to be a Christian you have to attend a church?
I was making a point, I think you're deluded, reading the bible and being part of a group doesn't make anything impossible, just because it says in the Qu'ran that you should dedicate your like to killing the idolaters and none-believers doesn't mean half the guys on the IT team I work with are coming to slaughter me. Hitler despised the Jews because he blamed them for the economic failures and shortcomings in WWI, he mixed with the NSDAP when he was a painter just after the war, the taught him about their anti-semantic views and opinions which he soaked up, he also like many others despised the Weimar Republic and blamed the Jewish HOS' for the massive economic sanctions that Germany was facing after the war. He grew up Catholic, infact according to historians, he allegedly held high views of Jesus, he was never viewed as and never positioned himself as an Atheist. E34-3.2 said:
I believe someone with a belief in God could not have caused the holocaust (if you read a Bible, it is actually impossible for a Christian to think like Hitler about the Jews). Not sure what you are on about in a building on Sunday? to be a Christian you have to attend a church?
There have been quite a few genocides perpetrated by believers. I dare say most of those involved in the horrific acts of the Holocaust were Christians.E34-3.2 said:
I believe someone with a belief in God could not have caused the holocaust (if you read a Bible, it is actually impossible for a Christian to think like Hitler about the Jews). Not sure what you are on about in a building on Sunday? to be a Christian you have to attend a church?
People with belief in a God or Gods have managed perfectly well to commit genocide. All it requires is the belief that you are on the side of right- Hence South America was introduced to Christianity and the Spanish language, the Christian King of England expelled the Jews, Americans owned slaves and went to church.
Europe has been expelling Jews for a long time. The idea that being a totally racist asshole is somehow immoral has often been out of fashion in history.
paulguitar said:
Dodgy ground there... Atheism has never caused any wars. Hitler was, of course, originally a Roman Catholic, but it was not because of this (or, for example, having a moustache) that he did what he did. Religion, however, can directly lead otherwise rational people to get involved with truly awful things or to turn to shocking extremist views. A great example is Cat Stephens, a seemingly well adjusted and wise musical artist who became apparently brainwashed into extreme religious beliefs and said some very troubling things.
I know what you mean. It temporarily inflicted Ronan Keating back on to us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDenjogrl74
techiedave said:
paulguitar said:
Dodgy ground there... Atheism has never caused any wars. Hitler was, of course, originally a Roman Catholic, but it was not because of this (or, for example, having a moustache) that he did what he did. Religion, however, can directly lead otherwise rational people to get involved with truly awful things or to turn to shocking extremist views. A great example is Cat Stephens, a seemingly well adjusted and wise musical artist who became apparently brainwashed into extreme religious beliefs and said some very troubling things.
I know what you mean. It temporarily inflicted Ronan Keating back on to us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDenjogrl74
Unpopular as it may be, I never bought the idea that we huming beans are hard-wired to reproduce. I never wanted a sprog, nor did any of my gfs or either wife.
So, you get a fairly sexy song but in 'Black velvet', Allannah Myles keeps wittering on about her offspring...
"Mama's dancin' with baby on her shoulder
Black velvet in my little boy's smile"
Ditto Mike and the Mechanics in 'The living years'.
"I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years"
Well FYI, it doesn't strike a chord, it just irritates.
Equally, no matter how many stoopid greetings cards you show me, I never had even the remotest interest in golf, apart from having owned two Gtis
Unpredictably yours, DH
So, you get a fairly sexy song but in 'Black velvet', Allannah Myles keeps wittering on about her offspring...
"Mama's dancin' with baby on her shoulder
Black velvet in my little boy's smile"
Ditto Mike and the Mechanics in 'The living years'.
"I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years"
Well FYI, it doesn't strike a chord, it just irritates.
Equally, no matter how many stoopid greetings cards you show me, I never had even the remotest interest in golf, apart from having owned two Gtis
Unpredictably yours, DH
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Westblue said:
Is London REALLY the capital of England? When British people are in the minority there How can that be?
I appreciate that we have huge numbers of foreign tourists at any given point in London, plus loads of foreign workers, students etc, but surely they don't make up over 50%. Where's your evidence that foreigners outnumber the British in London? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Lon...
Westblue said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Westblue said:
Is London REALLY the capital of England? When British people are in the minority there How can that be?
I appreciate that we have huge numbers of foreign tourists at any given point in London, plus loads of foreign workers, students etc, but surely they don't make up over 50%. Where's your evidence that foreigners outnumber the British in London? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Lon...
here's a clue 37% of the population were born outside the UK
JustinF said:
been mentioned many times in the thread already, plenty of non-white Brits in those figures.
here's a clue 37% of the population were born outside the UK
A lot of people you would consider 'white British' were born outside the UK. 50+ years ago we had an empire with people stationed throughout the world doing various things. I know of many people who were born in Kenya, Rhodesia, India etc to British parents who would be in that figure.here's a clue 37% of the population were born outside the UK
cherryowen said:
Bladerunner is a terminally dull, and vastly overrated film
(I recorded it yesterday, and watched it earlier)
Agree; terribly dull and boring, I just don't get the hype of the film.(I recorded it yesterday, and watched it earlier)
Although the actress who plays Rachel was very easy on the eye, I must admit
My colleague saw the new Bladerunner with his "cinema buddies" when it was out, they all thought it was terrible.
davhill said:
Unpopular as it may be, I never bought the idea that we huming beans are hard-wired to reproduce. I never wanted a sprog, nor did any of my gfs or either wife.
I presume that you've had sex with those girlfriends and wives?Seems to me like that qualifies as "hard-wired to reproduce", it's just that technology now allows us to avoid the consequences.
amusingduck said:
davhill said:
Unpopular as it may be, I never bought the idea that we huming beans are hard-wired to reproduce. I never wanted a sprog, nor did any of my gfs or either wife.
I presume that you've had sex with those girlfriends and wives?Front bottom said:
Blown2CV said:
OK fair enough. What sort of things?
After having had quite a few unexplained experiences, I've arrived at this conclusion. It's caused a bit of trouble on previous threads though, so that's all I'll say.
i dunno where the religion discussion got to, but it's clear to me that religion as a concept, was created long ago to try and give comfort in some kind of explanation for the unexplained. This was in times when we knew nothing about how anything worked, and so it was all based on what humans at the time could see around them. People saw people around them so they can only assume that a super-person must have created the other things, because what other explanation is there? Thunder? Angry God. Flowers? God made those beautiful so we could enjoy them. Food or us to ear? God gave us that, isn't he great. Rain? Oops we've done something to upset him. Everything more complex than that in religion has been built upon those ideas and elaborated over thousands of years, but it's the same thing. We don't understand how the world works so we use this story to fill all and any gaps. Faith has been created first as a control mechanism (you aren't permitted to believe anything else) and now is used as a way to refute other beliefs, evidence (OMG do religious people hate evidence... and i say OMG ironically), logic, reason... ah well my faith is more powerful and i will carry on believing regardless of what you put in front of me... i don't need those things like evidence, i have what i need. It's the reason religion still exists at all, despite being in sharp decline. We have other compelling narratives to explain things now, so the only people that remain in the religion club are those who have a vested interest e.g. career, priests etc, old people who have nothing to lose and/or people whose social life/network/family all depend upon using religion as knitting to hold it all together, or those who are just used to it being there.
davhill said:
So, you get a fairly sexy song but in 'Black velvet', Allannah Myles keeps wittering on about her offspring...
"Mama's dancin' with baby on her shoulder
Black velvet in my little boy's smile"
Well FYI, it doesn't strike a chord, it just irritates.
This is strangely specific!"Mama's dancin' with baby on her shoulder
Black velvet in my little boy's smile"
Well FYI, it doesn't strike a chord, it just irritates.
I have a couple of questions:
1). What do the lyrics of Black Velvet have to do with you not wanting children?
2). Why does her mentioning a baby irritate you?
Also, and I may just make your day here, the song is written as a paean to Elvis Presley.
The baby on the shoulder in question is supposed to be the infant Elvis on his mother Gladys’ shoulder.
Also, “Black Velvet and that Little Boy Smile” refers to the popular line of Elvis prints available in the US finished in Black velvet - girls liked him for his ‘little boy smile’.
Now you can like the song again!
Westblue said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Westblue said:
Is London REALLY the capital of England? When British people are in the minority there How can that be?
I appreciate that we have huge numbers of foreign tourists at any given point in London, plus loads of foreign workers, students etc, but surely they don't make up over 50%. Where's your evidence that foreigners outnumber the British in London? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Lon...
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