What are your unpopular opinions?
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V6 Pushfit said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Balmoral said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Drink can steady the nerves when doing things that are difficult
This has been shown to be the case when studying the effects of alcohol on driving. One drink slightly slows reactions which results in better decision making and better outcomes in an emergency situation, two drinks however and it drops off a cliff edge. A low limit makes sense, a zero limit doesn't.By way of rebuttal I offer:
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/21/e1/e28
Countdown said:
Flibble said:
I think there's a difference between a driver who aquaplanes and then just says, oh well nothing I could do, and pops down the dealership for a new car and one who aquaplanes and says, I messed up, how can I improve in the future.
I completely agree. When things go wrong It’s the bit in bold above that the vast majority have done, but very few will accept. They will always come up with scenarios / excuses to justify why it was something outside of their control and NOT a lack of ability on their part (perish the thought!)
In nearly 30 years driving I have aquaplaned twice, once when I made a mistake, I thought that the fact that it hadnt rained for at least 40 minutes would mean that the surface water would have gone, it hadnt and I went from lane 2 to lane 1 to lane 3 and ended up back in lane 2 without having turned the wheel, all at about 65mph on the m621.
The other time was on the m1 in torrential rain, I was doing maybe 40 mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road and I hit a massive pool of water my car went from lane 1 all the way across the hard shoulder and I was within inches of hitting the concrete on the m6/m1 junction when my car gripped and I was able to get back on the motorway. If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
GOG440 said:
I have to say I completely disagree with you.
In nearly 30 years driving I have aquaplaned twice, once when I made a mistake, I thought that the fact that it hadnt rained for at least 40 minutes would mean that the surface water would have gone, it hadnt and I went from lane 2 to lane 1 to lane 3 and ended up back in lane 2 without having turned the wheel, all at about 65mph on the m621.
The other time was on the m1 in torrential rain, I was doing maybe 40 mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road and I hit a massive pool of water my car went from lane 1 all the way across the hard shoulder and I was within inches of hitting the concrete on the m6/m1 junction when my car gripped and I was able to get back on the motorway. If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
On the second occasion, knowing what you know now about the chances of hitting concrete etc. , would you drive exactly the same way again or would you do something different?In nearly 30 years driving I have aquaplaned twice, once when I made a mistake, I thought that the fact that it hadnt rained for at least 40 minutes would mean that the surface water would have gone, it hadnt and I went from lane 2 to lane 1 to lane 3 and ended up back in lane 2 without having turned the wheel, all at about 65mph on the m621.
The other time was on the m1 in torrential rain, I was doing maybe 40 mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road and I hit a massive pool of water my car went from lane 1 all the way across the hard shoulder and I was within inches of hitting the concrete on the m6/m1 junction when my car gripped and I was able to get back on the motorway. If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
GOG440 said:
If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
You've answered your own question. You could have avoided aquaplaning by slowing down. You made a conscious decision not to do this because of other traffic such as a lorry behind you. That's fair enough, I imagine a huge majority of people would have made the same decision.
But to then try say it was 'unavoidable' is clearly not true, is it? You might have had an angry lorry driver beeping at you, but you'd have avoided a trip towards the barriers.
I'd also suggest that if you were going significantly slower than other traffic (that was having no issue) then your tyres may have been a contributing factor.
Aquaplaning isn't magic. It may be complex and affected by many things such as tyre pressures, tread depths, tyre load, water film thickness and of course speed. One thing always remains a fact...if you slow down sufficiently you cannot aquaplane. Whether that speed is low enough to mean that other risks (such as being rear-ended) now outweigh the risk of aquaplaning is a decision only the driver can make at the time.
What he can't then do is say it was 'unavoidable' if he makes the wrong decision.
(And yes, I have got it wrong and aquaplaned on more than one occasion, so please don't think I'm trying to be 'holier-than-thou')
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines80sMatchbox said:
Opinions can be wrong.
If someone says say that in their opinion 2+2=5, then provided they're not lying, then that's a statement of fact. In their opinion, 2+2 does =5. Now obviously it doesn't =5, but in their opinion it does. This was key when I was a school governor when it came to the teaching of RE.
"Christians believe that Christ rose from the dead". That's a factual thing to teach kids, because Christians do believe that. It's true.
"Christ rose from the dead". That's unacceptable. It's highly unlikely that ever happened, and you shouldn't tell kids it did.
br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrinesBlown2CV said:
br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrinesBlown2CV said:
br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrinesV6 Pushfit said:
Relatives that are staying for Christmas and bring a dog with them. They can fk off back home and take that moulting stinking st factory with them while they’re about it.
People that come to your home and complain about your dog. He's part of the family, you're just a visitor and can fk right off again
keirik said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Relatives that are staying for Christmas and bring a dog with them. They can fk off back home and take that moulting stinking st factory with them while they’re about it.
People that come to your home and complain about your dog. He's part of the family, you're just a visitor and can fk right off again
Paul_M3 said:
You've answered your own question. You could have avoided aquaplaning by slowing down. You made a conscious decision not to do this because of other traffic such as a lorry behind you.
That's fair enough, I imagine a huge majority of people would have made the same decision.
But to then try say it was 'unavoidable' is clearly not true, is it? You might have had an angry lorry driver beeping at you, but you'd have avoided a trip towards the barriers.
I'd also suggest that if you were going significantly slower than other traffic (that was having no issue) then your tyres may have been a contributing factor.
Aquaplaning isn't magic. It may be complex and affected by many things such as tyre pressures, tread depths, tyre load, water film thickness and of course speed. One thing always remains a fact...if you slow down sufficiently you cannot aquaplane. Whether that speed is low enough to mean that other risks (such as being rear-ended) now outweigh the risk of aquaplaning is a decision only the driver can make at the time.
What he can't then do is say it was 'unavoidable' if he makes the wrong decision.
(And yes, I have got it wrong and aquaplaned on more than one occasion, so please don't think I'm trying to be 'holier-than-thou')
Do you actually drive?That's fair enough, I imagine a huge majority of people would have made the same decision.
But to then try say it was 'unavoidable' is clearly not true, is it? You might have had an angry lorry driver beeping at you, but you'd have avoided a trip towards the barriers.
I'd also suggest that if you were going significantly slower than other traffic (that was having no issue) then your tyres may have been a contributing factor.
Aquaplaning isn't magic. It may be complex and affected by many things such as tyre pressures, tread depths, tyre load, water film thickness and of course speed. One thing always remains a fact...if you slow down sufficiently you cannot aquaplane. Whether that speed is low enough to mean that other risks (such as being rear-ended) now outweigh the risk of aquaplaning is a decision only the driver can make at the time.
What he can't then do is say it was 'unavoidable' if he makes the wrong decision.
(And yes, I have got it wrong and aquaplaned on more than one occasion, so please don't think I'm trying to be 'holier-than-thou')
Are you actually Colin McCrea reincarnated?
Should we all fall at your feet and worship you?
Or are you just a naturally argumentative person who has to have the last word on the subject?
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