What are your unpopular opinions?

What are your unpopular opinions?

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smn159

12,644 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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V6 Pushfit said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Balmoral said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Drink can steady the nerves when doing things that are difficult
This has been shown to be the case when studying the effects of alcohol on driving. One drink slightly slows reactions which results in better decision making and better outcomes in an emergency situation, two drinks however and it drops off a cliff edge. A low limit makes sense, a zero limit doesn't.
Can you quote the studies please? It seems counterintuitive that slower reactions are better in an emergency situation and hard to see any logic behind the statement that slower reactions result in "better decision making".

By way of rebuttal I offer:

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/21/e1/e28
Very interesting but it’s a no from me as it’s my unpopular opinion as far as I believe.
You are Bill Werbeniuk AICMFP

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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smn159 said:
You are Bill Werbeniuk AICMFP
I can be anybody you want me to be, Big Boy

smn159

12,644 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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V6 Pushfit said:
I can be anybody you want me to be, Big Boy
You been on that nerve steadying drink already?


Lucas CAV

3,022 posts

219 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines

GOG440

9,247 posts

190 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Countdown said:
Flibble said:
I think there's a difference between a driver who aquaplanes and then just says, oh well nothing I could do, and pops down the dealership for a new car and one who aquaplanes and says, I messed up, how can I improve in the future.
I completely agree.

When things go wrong It’s the bit in bold above that the vast majority have done, but very few will accept. They will always come up with scenarios / excuses to justify why it was something outside of their control and NOT a lack of ability on their part (perish the thought!)
I have to say I completely disagree with you.

In nearly 30 years driving I have aquaplaned twice, once when I made a mistake, I thought that the fact that it hadnt rained for at least 40 minutes would mean that the surface water would have gone, it hadnt and I went from lane 2 to lane 1 to lane 3 and ended up back in lane 2 without having turned the wheel, all at about 65mph on the m621.
The other time was on the m1 in torrential rain, I was doing maybe 40 mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road and I hit a massive pool of water my car went from lane 1 all the way across the hard shoulder and I was within inches of hitting the concrete on the m6/m1 junction when my car gripped and I was able to get back on the motorway. If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?

Countdown

39,854 posts

196 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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GOG440 said:
I have to say I completely disagree with you.

In nearly 30 years driving I have aquaplaned twice, once when I made a mistake, I thought that the fact that it hadnt rained for at least 40 minutes would mean that the surface water would have gone, it hadnt and I went from lane 2 to lane 1 to lane 3 and ended up back in lane 2 without having turned the wheel, all at about 65mph on the m621.
The other time was on the m1 in torrential rain, I was doing maybe 40 mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road and I hit a massive pool of water my car went from lane 1 all the way across the hard shoulder and I was within inches of hitting the concrete on the m6/m1 junction when my car gripped and I was able to get back on the motorway. If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
On the second occasion, knowing what you know now about the chances of hitting concrete etc. , would you drive exactly the same way again or would you do something different?

Paul_M3

2,368 posts

185 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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GOG440 said:
If I had been going faster I would have crashed, any slower and I would have had a 40 tonner in the boot. I had no choice but to travel that day what exactly would you suggest I did?
You've answered your own question. You could have avoided aquaplaning by slowing down. You made a conscious decision not to do this because of other traffic such as a lorry behind you.

That's fair enough, I imagine a huge majority of people would have made the same decision.

But to then try say it was 'unavoidable' is clearly not true, is it? You might have had an angry lorry driver beeping at you, but you'd have avoided a trip towards the barriers.

I'd also suggest that if you were going significantly slower than other traffic (that was having no issue) then your tyres may have been a contributing factor.

Aquaplaning isn't magic. It may be complex and affected by many things such as tyre pressures, tread depths, tyre load, water film thickness and of course speed. One thing always remains a fact...if you slow down sufficiently you cannot aquaplane. Whether that speed is low enough to mean that other risks (such as being rear-ended) now outweigh the risk of aquaplaning is a decision only the driver can make at the time.

What he can't then do is say it was 'unavoidable' if he makes the wrong decision.

(And yes, I have got it wrong and aquaplaned on more than one occasion, so please don't think I'm trying to be 'holier-than-thou')

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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smn159 said:
You been on that nerve steadying drink already?
Since 1976

SlimJim16v

5,654 posts

143 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Let's not forget what the driver does when aquaplaning has a huge effect on the outcome.

It can be difficult not to panic and lift-off or brake, whereas staying calm and doing nothing may well see you out of the other side safely.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines
I can't get wound up about this. Yes, some of them go over the top but if you lost your son or daughter to a seemingly pointless death and laying some flowers next to a picture helps you cope with that devastating hole ripped in your life then I'm not really going to moan about it.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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80sMatchbox said:
Opinions can be wrong.
If someone says say that in their opinion 2+2=5, then provided they're not lying, then that's a statement of fact. In their opinion, 2+2 does =5. Now obviously it doesn't =5, but in their opinion it does.

This was key when I was a school governor when it came to the teaching of RE.

"Christians believe that Christ rose from the dead". That's a factual thing to teach kids, because Christians do believe that. It's true.
"Christ rose from the dead". That's unacceptable. It's highly unlikely that ever happened, and you shouldn't tell kids it did.


Blown2CV

28,804 posts

203 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines
I can't get wound up about this. Yes, some of them go over the top but if you lost your son or daughter to a seemingly pointless death and laying some flowers next to a picture helps you cope with that devastating hole ripped in your life then I'm not really going to moan about it.
i mean yes, however there are ways to remember them which aren't such a deliberate downer for hundreds of complete strangers passing by every day... and also why would anyone want to remember where they died, rather than how they lived? This aside from the notion that the shrine is sometimes on private land belonging to someone who was nothing to do with the death.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines
I can't get wound up about this. Yes, some of them go over the top but if you lost your son or daughter to a seemingly pointless death and laying some flowers next to a picture helps you cope with that devastating hole ripped in your life then I'm not really going to moan about it.
i mean yes, however there are ways to remember them which aren't such a deliberate downer for hundreds of complete strangers passing by every day... and also why would anyone want to remember where they died, rather than how they lived? This aside from the notion that the shrine is sometimes on private land belonging to someone who was nothing to do with the death.
In theory, every hospital bed should be covered in flowers.

Lucas CAV

3,022 posts

219 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Blown2CV said:
br d said:
Lucas CAV said:
Blown2CV said:
people that lay flowers at the site where someone died are weird, and other people don't really want to see that either.
Chav shrines
I can't get wound up about this. Yes, some of them go over the top but if you lost your son or daughter to a seemingly pointless death and laying some flowers next to a picture helps you cope with that devastating hole ripped in your life then I'm not really going to moan about it.
i mean yes, however there are ways to remember them which aren't such a deliberate downer for hundreds of complete strangers passing by every day... and also why would anyone want to remember where they died, rather than how they lived? This aside from the notion that the shrine is sometimes on private land belonging to someone who was nothing to do with the death.
This.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Relatives that are staying for Christmas and bring a dog with them. They can fk off back home and take that moulting stinking st factory with them while they’re about it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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V6 Pushfit said:
Relatives that are staying for Christmas and bring a dog with them. They can fk off back home and take that moulting stinking st factory with them while they’re about it.
People that come to your home and complain about your dog.
He's part of the family, you're just a visitor and can fk right off again

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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keirik said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Relatives that are staying for Christmas and bring a dog with them. They can fk off back home and take that moulting stinking st factory with them while they’re about it.
People that come to your home and complain about your dog.
He's part of the family, you're just a visitor and can fk right off again
People that have a dog issue at home can fk off back.... oh

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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keirik said:
People that come to your home and complain about your dog.
He's part of the family, you're just a visitor and can fk right off again
I like my dog more than our visitors anyway. He is probably better house trained too laugh

Bobberoo99

38,600 posts

98 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Paul_M3 said:
You've answered your own question. You could have avoided aquaplaning by slowing down. You made a conscious decision not to do this because of other traffic such as a lorry behind you.

That's fair enough, I imagine a huge majority of people would have made the same decision.

But to then try say it was 'unavoidable' is clearly not true, is it? You might have had an angry lorry driver beeping at you, but you'd have avoided a trip towards the barriers.

I'd also suggest that if you were going significantly slower than other traffic (that was having no issue) then your tyres may have been a contributing factor.

Aquaplaning isn't magic. It may be complex and affected by many things such as tyre pressures, tread depths, tyre load, water film thickness and of course speed. One thing always remains a fact...if you slow down sufficiently you cannot aquaplane. Whether that speed is low enough to mean that other risks (such as being rear-ended) now outweigh the risk of aquaplaning is a decision only the driver can make at the time.

What he can't then do is say it was 'unavoidable' if he makes the wrong decision.

(And yes, I have got it wrong and aquaplaned on more than one occasion, so please don't think I'm trying to be 'holier-than-thou')
Do you actually drive?
Are you actually Colin McCrea reincarnated?
Should we all fall at your feet and worship you?
Or are you just a naturally argumentative person who has to have the last word on the subject?

Countdown

39,854 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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It's ironic that people will refer to othees as "driving gods" and yet completely refuse to accept that, when they've aquaplaned, it's down to their own bad driving/poor judgement.
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