1st test drive of a 997 cs2s
Discussion
Hi,
Finally reached the point where I can purchase my 1st Porsche 911 (997.1) and I feel like I’m back to being 8 years of age on Christmas Eve.
Had a wobble a couple of weeks ago when the garage I visited couldn’t allow a test drive to a 2008 cs4 triptronic, due to a flat battery. On the way home stopped off at the local BM garage and test drove a 640d M-Sport coupe. Having owned 3 BM’s in the past, there is a comfort about knowing what your getting - but surprisingly (albeit to me) it left me feeling very disappointed.
More determined than ever, I called a local garage on Saturday to test drive a cs2 s, didn’t know at the time! But there was a severe lack of service history which means it’s a no no-goer, but the owner of the garage was very kind in allowing a test drive.
And what an experience it was ..... 3 days on, and I am still grinning like a Cheshire Cat it was amazing if.
Sitting in the car it felt like, it felt like ..... so comfortable.
The seats and even the driving position (I’d read that your and to shift your legs to the left as the pedals had to me moved off centre to accommodate the petrol tank), however I certainly didn’t notice.
Turning the key, what a sound 😀
It may sound silly to some, but the speed isn’t really what interests me, I actually just like the fact they are different to most cars that I can afford. But believe me, I wasn’t even out of 2nd gear and I was fully aware that this was way more powerful than any of my previous cars.
I do have a couple of question I would appreciate some help with, particularly from anyone who has been lucky enough to drive both the the standard c2 and the c2s.
1. The sound was amazing, although I really couldn’t tell the difference when I pressed the exhaust button. But how does this sound differ from the c2.
2. I found the ride quite firm, even when I played around with the button on the centre console. The road wasn’t great when I felt it the most and I could certainly live with it (happily), but is there a big difference with the non sport model?
3. As mentioned, the performance was amaIng, especially or most surprisingly in 5th ang 6th, how does this differ when compared to the 3.6?
4. For anyone who has a reasonable amount of experience with the two (3.6 & 3.8), is there one that you would recommend over the other and I what would be your reasons? I don’t mind admitting that I was swaying more towards the 3.6 because of the lower risk of bore scoring, however I also figure a 50-70k mile car that I get a ppi on is unlikely to suffer bore scoring if I treat well ie good maintenance and drive well, often and make sure it warms up before driving even moderately.
Please no one mention ims, i’m Too happy just now.
Thanks in advance.
Finally reached the point where I can purchase my 1st Porsche 911 (997.1) and I feel like I’m back to being 8 years of age on Christmas Eve.
Had a wobble a couple of weeks ago when the garage I visited couldn’t allow a test drive to a 2008 cs4 triptronic, due to a flat battery. On the way home stopped off at the local BM garage and test drove a 640d M-Sport coupe. Having owned 3 BM’s in the past, there is a comfort about knowing what your getting - but surprisingly (albeit to me) it left me feeling very disappointed.
More determined than ever, I called a local garage on Saturday to test drive a cs2 s, didn’t know at the time! But there was a severe lack of service history which means it’s a no no-goer, but the owner of the garage was very kind in allowing a test drive.
And what an experience it was ..... 3 days on, and I am still grinning like a Cheshire Cat it was amazing if.
Sitting in the car it felt like, it felt like ..... so comfortable.
The seats and even the driving position (I’d read that your and to shift your legs to the left as the pedals had to me moved off centre to accommodate the petrol tank), however I certainly didn’t notice.
Turning the key, what a sound 😀
It may sound silly to some, but the speed isn’t really what interests me, I actually just like the fact they are different to most cars that I can afford. But believe me, I wasn’t even out of 2nd gear and I was fully aware that this was way more powerful than any of my previous cars.
I do have a couple of question I would appreciate some help with, particularly from anyone who has been lucky enough to drive both the the standard c2 and the c2s.
1. The sound was amazing, although I really couldn’t tell the difference when I pressed the exhaust button. But how does this sound differ from the c2.
2. I found the ride quite firm, even when I played around with the button on the centre console. The road wasn’t great when I felt it the most and I could certainly live with it (happily), but is there a big difference with the non sport model?
3. As mentioned, the performance was amaIng, especially or most surprisingly in 5th ang 6th, how does this differ when compared to the 3.6?
4. For anyone who has a reasonable amount of experience with the two (3.6 & 3.8), is there one that you would recommend over the other and I what would be your reasons? I don’t mind admitting that I was swaying more towards the 3.6 because of the lower risk of bore scoring, however I also figure a 50-70k mile car that I get a ppi on is unlikely to suffer bore scoring if I treat well ie good maintenance and drive well, often and make sure it warms up before driving even moderately.
Please no one mention ims, i’m Too happy just now.
Thanks in advance.
1. The sound was amazing, although I really couldn’t tell the difference when I pressed the exhaust button. But how does this sound differ from the c2.
>> The PSE option makes a dramatic different to the sound and is in my opinion a total must-have option. However it does cut out between about 20-50MPH for some reason maybe to do with noise polution in urban areas. No worry, you can buy a bypass box from Carnewal for about £200 so you can turn it on or off whenever you like. Are you sure it had Porsche Sports Exhaust (PSE) though? Way to tell is the exhausts - each side has one smaler & 1 larger exit pipe. If it has this & chrono you et a button that says 'sport' on the dash. If not and it has PSE without chrono you get a button that looks like the tailpipes to turn it on & off.
2. I found the ride quite firm, even when I played around with the button on the centre console. The road wasn’t great when I felt it the most and I could certainly live with it (happily), but is there a big difference with the non sport model?
Yes PASM makes a difference but you can put the car in sport mode & enjoy the sharper throttle response, and turn off PASM which firms up the ride
3. As mentioned, the performance was amaIng, especially or most surprisingly in 5th ang 6th, how does this differ when compared to the 3.6?
Never driven a 3.6 but had a 3.8 and currently in a 3.2 Boxster S and I would imagine there isn't a lot in it. S has PASM as standard, as well as touches like red calipers & white dials. At that pricepoint I'd go S every time
4. For anyone who has a reasonable amount of experience with the two (3.6 & 3.8), is there one that you would recommend over the other and I what would be your reasons? I don’t mind admitting that I was swaying more towards the 3.6 because of the lower risk of bore scoring, however I also figure a 50-70k mile car that I get a ppi on is unlikely to suffer bore scoring if I treat well ie good maintenance and drive well, often and make sure it warms up before driving even moderately.
No known difference between the two, bore scoring is prevalent on the 3.4 987 lump and the 3.8, so just as likely on the 3.6.
Driving style may or may not make a difference, really you've got to have the mindset that it could present you with a £10k+ bill.
If that happening would turn your lights out financially then don't buy one.
If you want to scratch the itch and can take the risk then go for it I have had 4 modern Porsches so far with a total of 300,000 miles and no engine issues so far touch wood
>> The PSE option makes a dramatic different to the sound and is in my opinion a total must-have option. However it does cut out between about 20-50MPH for some reason maybe to do with noise polution in urban areas. No worry, you can buy a bypass box from Carnewal for about £200 so you can turn it on or off whenever you like. Are you sure it had Porsche Sports Exhaust (PSE) though? Way to tell is the exhausts - each side has one smaler & 1 larger exit pipe. If it has this & chrono you et a button that says 'sport' on the dash. If not and it has PSE without chrono you get a button that looks like the tailpipes to turn it on & off.
2. I found the ride quite firm, even when I played around with the button on the centre console. The road wasn’t great when I felt it the most and I could certainly live with it (happily), but is there a big difference with the non sport model?
Yes PASM makes a difference but you can put the car in sport mode & enjoy the sharper throttle response, and turn off PASM which firms up the ride
3. As mentioned, the performance was amaIng, especially or most surprisingly in 5th ang 6th, how does this differ when compared to the 3.6?
Never driven a 3.6 but had a 3.8 and currently in a 3.2 Boxster S and I would imagine there isn't a lot in it. S has PASM as standard, as well as touches like red calipers & white dials. At that pricepoint I'd go S every time
4. For anyone who has a reasonable amount of experience with the two (3.6 & 3.8), is there one that you would recommend over the other and I what would be your reasons? I don’t mind admitting that I was swaying more towards the 3.6 because of the lower risk of bore scoring, however I also figure a 50-70k mile car that I get a ppi on is unlikely to suffer bore scoring if I treat well ie good maintenance and drive well, often and make sure it warms up before driving even moderately.
No known difference between the two, bore scoring is prevalent on the 3.4 987 lump and the 3.8, so just as likely on the 3.6.
Driving style may or may not make a difference, really you've got to have the mindset that it could present you with a £10k+ bill.
If that happening would turn your lights out financially then don't buy one.
If you want to scratch the itch and can take the risk then go for it I have had 4 modern Porsches so far with a total of 300,000 miles and no engine issues so far touch wood
Thanks Jakesmith for you response. Re exhaust, just checked online and it doesn’t look standard, but had the two exhaust pipes on the button. Either way it sounded immense, and would love that kind of soundtrack on my future purchase. 10k wouldn’t wipe me out, but would rather not if you know what I mean, couldn’t face telling the wife and kids there would be no summer holiday for a year or two!!!. Let’s hope you have another 3000 trouble free miles. Thanks
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