Appropriate homework for a 10 year old...............???
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RTB said:
I'm not sure many 9/10 year olds could name a list of inspirational famous people LGBT or not.
My 9 year old could probably name a few historical figures (Roman Emperors, Churchill, a few kings and queens) but he'd struggle to name anybody from contemporary popular culture that could be termed inspirational, let alone one the fell under the LGBT label.
If the assignment was about inspirational Marvel Superheros he'd be fine, although I'm not sure if any of those would fit this particular assignment......
Well, Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great would both fit the bill. Job jobbed. My 9 year old could probably name a few historical figures (Roman Emperors, Churchill, a few kings and queens) but he'd struggle to name anybody from contemporary popular culture that could be termed inspirational, let alone one the fell under the LGBT label.
If the assignment was about inspirational Marvel Superheros he'd be fine, although I'm not sure if any of those would fit this particular assignment......
Rawwr said:
I really don't want to be represented by a person, group or organization who believe they know what's best for me. I find the whole notion as ridiculous as having representation for people with ginger hair or blue eyes. Equality is admirable but categorising a group and tilting things in their favour is not equality. I think that sums up my feelings.
Encapsulates most people's arguments against movements based on identity. They don't represent everyone they want to categorise, there's often just as much diversity within that category or group as any other. The people who run the movements just claim to represent anyone who identifies their way. Apply that to Black Lives Matter, LGBT, Trans Activists and many Feminists and then see how they treat 'their own' who do not subscribe to their views.
Spanna said:
Encapsulates most people's arguments against movements based on identity. They don't represent everyone they want to categorise, there's often just as much diversity within that category or group as any other.
The people who run the movements just claim to represent anyone who identifies their way. Apply that to Black Lives Matter, LGBT, Trans Activists and many Feminists and then see how they treat 'their own' who do not subscribe to their views.
I can see your point regarding movements as there does seem to be a movement and community for everything BUT without a movement such as stonewall views such as those espoused by Mrs Thatcher in the speech I linked to earlier would still be widely accepted. The people who run the movements just claim to represent anyone who identifies their way. Apply that to Black Lives Matter, LGBT, Trans Activists and many Feminists and then see how they treat 'their own' who do not subscribe to their views.
Spanna said:
Encapsulates most people's arguments against movements based on identity. They don't represent everyone they want to categorise, there's often just as much diversity within that category or group as any other.
The people who run the movements just claim to represent anyone who identifies their way. Apply that to Black Lives Matter, LGBT, Trans Activists and many Feminists and then see how they treat 'their own' who do not subscribe to their views.
I agree but it's even deeper than that. I have a few issues with people who define themselves by a particular physical quality. Gay people whose lives revolve around the fact they're gay, black people who define themselves and shape their personality around the fact they're black and so on. This leads to aborted hivemind thinking of 'I am black, I must do x, y, z' or 'I am a lesbian, I must believe in x, y, z' and I truly believe it's a terrible path to head down. Unfortunately, by shoving every person we can find into whatever box we can think of only serves to exacerbate this. It's almost a mechanism to force people into stereotypes.The people who run the movements just claim to represent anyone who identifies their way. Apply that to Black Lives Matter, LGBT, Trans Activists and many Feminists and then see how they treat 'their own' who do not subscribe to their views.
Of course, all of that is compounded by really skewed government policies, which although they may have been well-intended and quite noble in some respects, a lot of them are purely set out to attack the words and ignore the context, which is totally bonkers. There are no bad words, there are no evil words and words are incapable of premeditating anything hurtful in and of their own right. There are some words I'll laugh at when they're said by the right people or in the right context but take those same words and put them in the mouths of the wrong people or in the wrong context and the meaning and conviction of those words is totally changed.
In summary: tribalistic nonsense governed by people desperate to keep the tribes apart.
"Research an inspirational LGBT person, and create a fact file about them, and why you find them inspirational".
Dear teacher.
I am inspired by Freddie Mercury. He was born in 1946 in Africa, grew up in India, then moved to England. He overcame shyness and a set of teeth that looked like a burnt out village to become one of the greatest rock stars in the world with his band Queen. He was a great showman on stage, but a very private person off stage. He wrote many famous songs and played concerts in front of massive crowds. He was a very sensitive man, but had the best voice in music. He is beloved to this day and it would be wonderful if he was still with us. Here is a photo of Freddie, taking a bath.
Dear teacher.
I am inspired by Freddie Mercury. He was born in 1946 in Africa, grew up in India, then moved to England. He overcame shyness and a set of teeth that looked like a burnt out village to become one of the greatest rock stars in the world with his band Queen. He was a great showman on stage, but a very private person off stage. He wrote many famous songs and played concerts in front of massive crowds. He was a very sensitive man, but had the best voice in music. He is beloved to this day and it would be wonderful if he was still with us. Here is a photo of Freddie, taking a bath.
Bill said:
parabolica said:
However I do understand that maybe 10 is a year or two too young; however my cousin proves that not all kids will be alien to this.
Why though? They know people are in relationships, they don't need to know what goes on in the bedroom any more than they do with their parents.
We had this conversation with our kids recently when they asked about girlfriends for their (single) uncles and we had to point out one is gay. Oddly enough we didn't say "you know mummy loves daddy, well Uncle loves cock."
I mean, when kids have a best friend of the opposite sex we're all happy to laugh at them having a boy/girlfriend at this age. It's considered cute to embarrass them about holding hands or being close. As a kid, my parents would often joke about me marrying my best friend because she and I were so close. But when it's same-sex instantly it's about what happens in bed.
And that is why asking for an inspirational LGBT person is relevant. It encourages them to think beyond this, to see LGBT people are more than just a walking sex act.
A 10 year is more than capable of understanding the concept of romantic love. Something they see with friends and family, TV shows, newspaper headlines - Opposite-sex relationships are so ubiquitous that they go unnoticed.
As an aside on the use of the acronym LGBT, this is generally considered the acceptable catch-all. Some groups ask for LGBTI with the I standing for intersex as some/many intersex individuals associate themselves as part of the LGBT community. Others include a Q for either queer or "questioning" depending on context. Queer is a divisive term which for many is used as an umbrella for LBGT, for others is used as a marker for not feeling they fit any single description within LGBT. Using just the four-letter version you're highly unlikely to offend anyone or make anyone feel unwelcome unless you're specifically looking to describe a particular group of people.
You want your kids to be f
ked up, keep voting for the loony left. You think this one is an isolated incident?
This time in red militant Bristol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5427565/Dr...
There can never be a future for the children when dross like this is shoved down their throats on a daily basis, something needs to be done pronto.
ked up, keep voting for the loony left. You think this one is an isolated incident? This time in red militant Bristol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5427565/Dr...
There can never be a future for the children when dross like this is shoved down their throats on a daily basis, something needs to be done pronto.
mickmcpaddy said:
You want your kids to be fked up, keep voting for the loony left. You think this one is an isolated incident?
This time in red militant Bristol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5427565/Dr...
There can never be a future for the children when dross like this is shoved down their throats on a daily basis, something needs to be done pronto.
Now I must admit that I wouldn’t be happy if someone came to my child’s school who referring to themselves as Bristol’s biggest slag in front of them. However would I have an issue with a man dressed as a lady came to read them stories? No, not in the slightest! I want my children to grow up to understand that everyone is different, and that is ok. I know that the current generation is often vilified as snowflakes, etc, which may be true. However what they may lack in work ethic and/or gumption they do definitely make up for in terms of tolerance in my experience. I’m constantly amazed by the change in young people’s attitude towards, for instance, homosexuality. I remember when I was young, the prevailing attitude was that it was wrong and dangerous. Homophobic teasing and bullying was rife and I know several lads at my school had to repress their feelings and identity until they left school. Now, in the main, that has disappeared and students define themselves as gay without much recourse or bullying from other students (im not going to say it never happens, as that would be untrue, but in the schools I have worked in which tend to be the tougher ones, it’s certainly the case in my experience). Why has this happened? I’ve got not definite evidence to prove it, but I think that actions such as the one you’re referring to may have played a part, in my opinion at least! ked up, keep voting for the loony left. You think this one is an isolated incident? This time in red militant Bristol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5427565/Dr...
There can never be a future for the children when dross like this is shoved down their throats on a daily basis, something needs to be done pronto.
You do know its a primary school? kids from 5 to 11. st like this has no place in a school with kids of that age, they should be learning about maths and science and stuff like that. Its down to the parents to teach kids whether to be tolerant of others or not.
What kid of that age is interested in what gender he or she is unless its force fed them at every opportunity and most kids only want to be something because its the trendy thing to do at the time. They have the rest of their lives to worry about stuff like that, let them come to any conclusions they have about themselves when the peer pressure of school has gone.
t like this has no place in a school with kids of that age, they should be learning about maths and science and stuff like that. Its down to the parents to teach kids whether to be tolerant of others or not.What kid of that age is interested in what gender he or she is unless its force fed them at every opportunity and most kids only want to be something because its the trendy thing to do at the time. They have the rest of their lives to worry about stuff like that, let them come to any conclusions they have about themselves when the peer pressure of school has gone.
When you look at the proportion of drag queens in the population it's a bit disproportionate I think; this makes me think it's a bit more to do with the virtue signalling than the actual common-sense value of teaching kids to treat everyone fairly even if they are a bit different.
I actually said a few days ago that it's like a drag queen in the high street shouting through a megaphone 'I'm not different' - then lo and behold, it's sort of happening.
Perhaps other maligned minorities ought to do the same thing, 'bankers book at bedtime' or 'estate agent's tales'...
I actually said a few days ago that it's like a drag queen in the high street shouting through a megaphone 'I'm not different' - then lo and behold, it's sort of happening.
Perhaps other maligned minorities ought to do the same thing, 'bankers book at bedtime' or 'estate agent's tales'...
andy_s said:
When you look at the proportion of drag queens in the population it's a bit disproportionate I think; this makes me think it's a bit more to do with the virtue signalling than the actual common-sense value of teaching kids to treat everyone fairly even if they are a bit different.
I actually said a few days ago that it's like a drag queen in the high street shouting through a megaphone 'I'm not different' - then lo and behold, it's sort of happening.
Perhaps other maligned minorities ought to do the same thing, 'bankers book at bedtime' or 'estate agent's tales'...
I also wouldn’t have an issue with either of those! ;-) I actually said a few days ago that it's like a drag queen in the high street shouting through a megaphone 'I'm not different' - then lo and behold, it's sort of happening.
Perhaps other maligned minorities ought to do the same thing, 'bankers book at bedtime' or 'estate agent's tales'...
oldbanger said:
So in summary.
Drag queen - bad
Panto dame - suitable for small kids
Justin Fletcher - also suitable for small kids
Well if you are against your kids seeing a fella in a dress then you don't have to take them to a panto if you think its not suitable but when the kids are in school they are being fed all sorts of propaganda like this.Drag queen - bad
Panto dame - suitable for small kids
Justin Fletcher - also suitable for small kids
You can always home school the kids but then they turn into social misfits anyway.
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