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Sa Calobra said:
Alot of clothes sizes are out of whack. For instance I wear 34waist but I'm bloody not a 34. Road cycling brands are cruely spot on. High Street fodder is way off. Your waist might look ok to you- mine does but I know it's big for my height etc. I'm also a bmi of 28.
I have two pair of Levi's, same cut, same size on the label (29w32in) one pair fit very nicely - the other are pretty tight (and have been since new)! As for cycling clothes I see some brands more of you are this thin if you're wearing our clothes and height is what makes the difference!TameRacingDriver said:
I don't buy this BMI stuff. I am 5'10 and about 14 stone. I don't look fat in the slightest. Yeah I'm not ripped by any stretch of the imagination either but nobody thinks I am fat.
Most blokes I know are around similar.
According to the BMI I'd have to be about 11 stone to be ideal. Last time I was that someone said I liked like a cancer victim.
Sod that, if I'm considered fat then so be it
Just for the hell of it I just did a BMI check. I am 50yrs old, 6'0" , 13 stone. 24.7 BMI.Most blokes I know are around similar.
According to the BMI I'd have to be about 11 stone to be ideal. Last time I was that someone said I liked like a cancer victim.
Sod that, if I'm considered fat then so be it
So, that puts me just inside the 'healthy range" a couple more pounds and I would be getting into 'overweight territory'
As you say, According to the test I did, the middle of the healthy range for my height/age is 11 stone! Any mature adult 6ft tall guy that is 11 stone would probably look a bit undernourished in western society!
It's a good job I don't work out as that would easily push me over the line to overweight..
Thankyou4calling said:
At your height and weight your BMI falls within the normal range.
Who is considering you as fat?
The NHS with their BMI ratings?Who is considering you as fat?
Granted, I do lift weights, but I'm not exactly Hulk Hogan either by any stretch, I'm pretty average, but 11 stone would not be a realistic target for me unless I lived on nothing but leaves and spent every spare hour of my leisure time in a gym!
amare32 said:
C70R said:
amare32 said:
C70R said:
amare32 said:
I spilt my time between the UK and Hong Kong throughout the year with work/family and everytime I come back to the UK, I am absolutely disgusted how much landwhales there are in the UK. In HK, where food is cheaper you'd think the women over there would end up just like the landwhales in Western developed countries.. it's a rare sight to find obese people or even close over there.
People in the East must be doing something right. In the West, the SJWs have highjacked the debate and brainwashed a ton of girls here that it is ok to shove copious amounts of junk food/drinks and making them believe that big is beautiful.
This is another classic piece of 'the country has gone to the dogs' confirmation bias bPeople in the East must be doing something right. In the West, the SJWs have highjacked the debate and brainwashed a ton of girls here that it is ok to shove copious amounts of junk food/drinks and making them believe that big is beautiful.
ks. What do the below articles tell you?http://www.nationmultimedia.com/life/Thailand-and-...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjaminshobert/2017/...
https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publicatio...
I suggest you get yourself over to Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea and see for yourself bro. The state of affairs over there is damn sight better than it is in the UK/US.
t, as those articles attest.At least try not to sound like a partisan whinger.
I have no axe to grind here, but anyone saying (exactly as you did - see the bit I bolded) that Asia doesn't have an obesity problem is either blind, wilfully blind or stupid.
C70R said:
amare32 said:
C70R said:
amare32 said:
C70R said:
amare32 said:
I spilt my time between the UK and Hong Kong throughout the year with work/family and everytime I come back to the UK, I am absolutely disgusted how much landwhales there are in the UK. In HK, where food is cheaper you'd think the women over there would end up just like the landwhales in Western developed countries.. it's a rare sight to find obese people or even close over there.
People in the East must be doing something right. In the West, the SJWs have highjacked the debate and brainwashed a ton of girls here that it is ok to shove copious amounts of junk food/drinks and making them believe that big is beautiful.
This is another classic piece of 'the country has gone to the dogs' confirmation bias bPeople in the East must be doing something right. In the West, the SJWs have highjacked the debate and brainwashed a ton of girls here that it is ok to shove copious amounts of junk food/drinks and making them believe that big is beautiful.
ks. What do the below articles tell you?http://www.nationmultimedia.com/life/Thailand-and-...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjaminshobert/2017/...
https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publicatio...
I suggest you get yourself over to Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea and see for yourself bro. The state of affairs over there is damn sight better than it is in the UK/US.
t, as those articles attest.At least try not to sound like a partisan whinger.
I have no axe to grind here, but anyone saying (exactly as you did - see the bit I bolded) that Asia doesn't have an obesity problem is either blind, wilfully blind or stupid.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Just for the hell of it I just did a BMI check. I am 50yrs old, 6'0" , 13 stone. 24.7 BMI.
So, that puts me just inside the 'healthy range" a couple more pounds and I would be getting into 'overweight territory'
As you say, According to the test I did, the middle of the healthy range for my height/age is 11 stone! Any mature adult 6ft tall guy that is 11 stone would probably look a bit undernourished in western society!
It's a good job I don't work out as that would easily push me over the line to overweight..
I'm 40 and about the same height and weight/BMI as you.So, that puts me just inside the 'healthy range" a couple more pounds and I would be getting into 'overweight territory'
As you say, According to the test I did, the middle of the healthy range for my height/age is 11 stone! Any mature adult 6ft tall guy that is 11 stone would probably look a bit undernourished in western society!
It's a good job I don't work out as that would easily push me over the line to overweight..
BMI is a blunt instrument and just based on observation of death rates in the 1950s in the US, I believe.
I'm lean and have a reasonably good all-round strength and fitness through years of sport and cross-training, don't have a protruding gut and have a 32" waist
-although I cannot wear 32" trousers because they won't fit over my legs and backside. Even 34" need to be fairly relaxed fit. Skinny and super skinny trousers won't go over my calves.
My weight fluctuates between 80kg and 82kg.
If I was 12st (which would possibly be my fighting weight if I was a Boxer)I would probably look starved.
I suspect that most people with BMI ~25 do have a bit of a gut and probably not much muscle in their legs.
Apparently your waist measurement is a more useful indicator of body composition.
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Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 25th April 16:49
bulldong said:
TameRacingDriver said:
bulldong said:
You see, that's exactly the problem. People who think "live and let live" are exactly the reason why the NHS spends 10% of the annual budget on diabetes. Almost ALL of which is Type2 which is almost entirely treatable through lifestyle changes. I didn't mention my "ocular delight". People just need to wake up and take some responsibility for themselves.
Do you smoke? Drink? Drive a car or motorbike in a spirited fashion? Play sports that could result in injury? If so, you selfish fk, you are potentially also a burden on the NHS....EazyDuz said:
Ari said:
Jesus Christ. 
Social adeptness really isn't your strong point is it?
Could have worded it better but the way she should see it is, if he's bored of me he's not right for me and i'll find someone who is. Social adeptness really isn't your strong point is it?
Ari said:
bulldong said:
TameRacingDriver said:
bulldong said:
You see, that's exactly the problem. People who think "live and let live" are exactly the reason why the NHS spends 10% of the annual budget on diabetes. Almost ALL of which is Type2 which is almost entirely treatable through lifestyle changes. I didn't mention my "ocular delight". People just need to wake up and take some responsibility for themselves.
Do you smoke? Drink? Drive a car or motorbike in a spirited fashion? Play sports that could result in injury? If so, you selfish fk, you are potentially also a burden on the NHS....I fell off my mountain bike and the triage nurse explained I was low priority as it was a self inflicted injury. I explained to her that cycling keeps me out of hospital 364 days a year every single year. I didn't add that looking at her her obvious love of food etc would be making a visitor herself one day. Harsh, very harsh but I was very offended at her rationale and label that she gave me.
Sa Calobra said:
Without the huge revenue of taxes that alcohol brings and the resulting injuries there would be many nurses and Doctors out of a job. There simply wouldn't be a need for huge hospital facilities long-term.
Just as well we have so many criminals too, otherwise a lot of coppers would lose their jobs too.There are fat people everywhere the problem is it has become socially acceptable because many are in denial and too lazy to take action.I am 43 and 75kg and can run rings round men 15-20 years younger than me,it's disgusting really and the UK is heading for a health disaster.
It is fine being 16 stone but 16 st of what? vast majority are a sack of sh@t to look at like those blokes in the rugby shirts.
Have a look at a middleweight boxer 12 stone and tell me he looks underweight don't think so,some people in denial on here.
It is fine being 16 stone but 16 st of what? vast majority are a sack of sh@t to look at like those blokes in the rugby shirts.
Have a look at a middleweight boxer 12 stone and tell me he looks underweight don't think so,some people in denial on here.
MC Bodge said:
I'm 40 and about the same height and weight/BMI as you.
BMI is a blunt instrument and just based on observation of death rates in the 1950s in the US, I believe.
I'm lean and have a reasonably good all-round strength and fitness through years of sport and cross-training, don't have a protruding gut and have a 32" waist
-although I cannot wear 32" trousers because they won't fit over my legs and backside. Even 34" need to be fairly relaxed fit. Skinny and super skinny trousers won't go over my calves.
My weight fluctuates between 80kg and 82kg.
If I was 12st (which would possibly be my fighting weight if I was a Boxer)I would probably look starved.
I suspect that most people with BMI ~25 do have a bit of a gut and probably not much muscle in their legs.
Apparently your waist measurement is a more useful indicator of body composition.
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I am as you describe, I don't do any type of fitness or weight training type stuff. I wear 32" trousers easily as I don't have chunky legs but I do have a bit of a gut which I am sure I could get rid of with a better diet and some exercise, if I could be bothered.BMI is a blunt instrument and just based on observation of death rates in the 1950s in the US, I believe.
I'm lean and have a reasonably good all-round strength and fitness through years of sport and cross-training, don't have a protruding gut and have a 32" waist
-although I cannot wear 32" trousers because they won't fit over my legs and backside. Even 34" need to be fairly relaxed fit. Skinny and super skinny trousers won't go over my calves.
My weight fluctuates between 80kg and 82kg.
If I was 12st (which would possibly be my fighting weight if I was a Boxer)I would probably look starved.
I suspect that most people with BMI ~25 do have a bit of a gut and probably not much muscle in their legs.
Apparently your waist measurement is a more useful indicator of body composition.
]
I was fairly fit and a bit muscly until I was about 30. I have put on about a stone since then.
Superflow said:
There are fat people everywhere the problem is it has become socially acceptable because many are in denial and too lazy to take action.I am 43 and 75kg and can run rings round men 15-20 years younger than me,it's disgusting really and the UK is heading for a health disaster.
It is fine being 16 stone but 16 st of what? vast majority are a sack of sh@t to look at like those blokes in the rugby shirts.
Have a look at a middleweight boxer 12 stone and tell me he looks underweight don't think so,some people in denial on here.
I know agree with this I'm 6ft2 and 104kg. I really could lose 10kg and feel way better.It is fine being 16 stone but 16 st of what? vast majority are a sack of sh@t to look at like those blokes in the rugby shirts.
Have a look at a middleweight boxer 12 stone and tell me he looks underweight don't think so,some people in denial on here.
zygalski said:
BMI has largely now been discredited.
Calories in vs calories out when you know your BMR is a better way to go, so long as you don't underestimate calorie consumption.
Waist to height ratio is also generally thought to be a better means of checking your weight than BMI.
I just looked at a waist to height calculator and it says to measure your waist above your belly button! I thought my waste was where my waste band is on my trousers, and seeing as I am not Simon cowell that is quite a long way below my belly button!Calories in vs calories out when you know your BMR is a better way to go, so long as you don't underestimate calorie consumption.
Waist to height ratio is also generally thought to be a better means of checking your weight than BMI.
Sa Calobra said:
Without the huge revenue of taxes that alcohol brings and the resulting injuries there would be many nurses and Doctors out of a job. There simply wouldn't be a need for huge hospital facilities long-term.
I fell off my mountain bike and the triage nurse explained I was low priority as it was a self inflicted injury. I explained to her that cycling keeps me out of hospital 364 days a year every single year. I didn't add that looking at her her obvious love of food etc would be making a visitor herself one day. Harsh, very harsh but I was very offended at her rationale and label that she gave me.
Bike riding doesn't contribute in any way to the NHS coffers and you're clearly putting yourself at extra risk of needing the NHS (as you've proved by falling off it and placing additional burden on A&E). I fell off my mountain bike and the triage nurse explained I was low priority as it was a self inflicted injury. I explained to her that cycling keeps me out of hospital 364 days a year every single year. I didn't add that looking at her her obvious love of food etc would be making a visitor herself one day. Harsh, very harsh but I was very offended at her rationale and label that she gave me.
You are exactly the same as someone overweight, adding burden to the NHS unnecessarily through lifestyle choice - by your very own logic!
Ari said:
Bike riding doesn't contribute in any way to the NHS coffers and you're clearly putting yourself at extra risk of needing the NHS (as you've proved by falling off it and placing additional burden on A&E).
You are exactly the same as someone overweight, adding burden to the NHS unnecessarily through lifestyle choice - by your very own logic!
We can't win really.You are exactly the same as someone overweight, adding burden to the NHS unnecessarily through lifestyle choice - by your very own logic!
If we all ate healthily and stayed safely at home keeping up a good regime of light safe exercise then we would become a burden as we went though our eighties/nineties and beyond.
If we live unhealthy /dangerous lifestyle we will be a burden for less time as we will probably die sooner.
In my opinion they should remove the tax from booze and alcohol and then all the smokers and drinkers could EASILY afford private healthcare but then the NHS would go bust..
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