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MC Bodge

21,552 posts

174 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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ukbabz said:
BMI isn't about Aesthetics, it's about health. Having a low BMI doesn't give you a six pack without the associated muscle growth and working out. It works for pretty much everyone bar rugby players and body builders. Hell it even works for Usain Bolt with a BMI of 24.7 according to his height / weight on google.

I guess it comes down to we can't tell people how to look, everyone is free there. However, when other people (the state) picks up the health care bills associated with being overweight and obese then we do have an issue that needs to be addressed.
Agreed. It's not about aesthetics. It is about health and quality of life.

Humans were not made to sit constantly in one position on a chair or sofa and to eat masses of sugar and starch.

The thought of being restricted in what I do by carrying around the equivalent of a rucksack full of fat depresses me.


EazyDuz

2,013 posts

107 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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wsurfa said:
In true PH stair dominating goateed director style, I'm 183cm and 105-107kg (6 foot & c 16.5 stone), clearly this is 101% muscle and BMI measurements are rubbish......

Clothes: Trousers are 34 or 36 depending on who made them, chest c 46/48, neck 18 and weirdly long arms(I'm blaming them for an additional 5kg).

I was up to 5kg heavier when younger, but bodyfat will be higher now, most of the time from age 23-35 I was 100-108kg. I was a runt when I turned 18 though at c 70kg
Dat you Brock Lesnar? Estats of peace

travel is dangerous

1,853 posts

83 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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MC Bodge said:
I would suggest that able bodied men should be able to run 5k in 25 minutes, fireman's lift/ carry somebody of their own weight across a football pitch, do 5 proper pullups and 20 proper pressups. As a start.

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 26th April 21:16
I think this is a bit of a weird mix, isn’t it?
I think 5 pull-ups and 20 press-ups is pretty easy (few weeks practice to get to those, I think) carrying 70kg 60 metres or whatever is pretty hard (I’ve never tried though) and 25 min 5k is a pretty high target for someone not used to running (would take a year or two get there I suspect).

AppleJuice

2,154 posts

84 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Harry H said:
All this problem started around the same time as "Anti body shaming" began.

"be proud of your shape"
"I'm not fat I'm curvy"
" I'm voluptuous"

When I was a kid we had one chap in our class and by todays standards he was carrying just a few extra pounds. He was called "Fatso".

As an adult if you want to stuff your face all day and carry around a bucket of lard with you that's fine by me but having fat kids is just poor parenting and people should be made ashamed of it not celebrating it. Trouble is they're so fat themselves they think their kids are slim.

Big bones, puppy fat, all a load of bks. Your kid is a lard arse and as the parent you're responsible so do something about it. Fat kids, fat adult.

And breathe.....
This 'body-shaming' "be proud of your shape" / "I'm not fat I'm curvy" / "I'm voluptuous" bks has been peddled only to wrap those who should be doing something about themselves in cotton wool rather than prod them into action.

Britain's health may improve if there was more 'beach body ready'-type advertising and less 'let's make being a lard arse normal' crap.


Edited by AppleJuice on Friday 27th April 11:16

ukbabz

1,538 posts

125 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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travel is dangerous said:
I think this is a bit of a weird mix, isn’t it?
I think 5 pull-ups and 20 press-ups is pretty easy (few weeks practice to get to those, I think) carrying 70kg 60 metres or whatever is pretty hard (I’ve never tried though) and 25 min 5k is a pretty high target for someone not used to running (would take a year or two get there I suspect).
Depends how fit you are, I dislike running massively but joined my wife doing a saturday morning Park Run. It was the first proper 5k I'd completed and did it 24:17 (aged 30). I went again and by the 4th week I was down at 22:49 as I got comfortable with pacing. The difference being I cycle a lot so have a reasonable level of fitness to start with.

Haven't tried pull ups in a while but suspect 5 proper pull ups wouldn't be an issue, neither 20 push ups (had a chat a few weeks ago about pushups and how many we could do - without practise I managed 40odd)

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

107 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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'I'm fat because I have a slow metabolism'. What are you taking for that, pies?
Any chance of an update OP, have you ditched the whale or?

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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ukbabz said:
travel is dangerous said:
I think this is a bit of a weird mix, isn’t it?
I think 5 pull-ups and 20 press-ups is pretty easy (few weeks practice to get to those, I think) carrying 70kg 60 metres or whatever is pretty hard (I’ve never tried though) and 25 min 5k is a pretty high target for someone not used to running (would take a year or two get there I suspect).
Depends how fit you are, I dislike running massively but joined my wife doing a saturday morning Park Run. It was the first proper 5k I'd completed and did it 24:17 (aged 30). I went again and by the 4th week I was down at 22:49 as I got comfortable with pacing. The difference being I cycle a lot so have a reasonable level of fitness to start with.

Haven't tried pull ups in a while but suspect 5 proper pull ups wouldn't be an issue, neither 20 push ups (had a chat a few weeks ago about pushups and how many we could do - without practise I managed 40odd)
Most people can't even hold their own body weight.

Electronicpants

2,623 posts

187 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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MC Bodge said:
.I would suggest that able bodied men should be able to run 5k in 25 minutes, fireman's lift/ carry somebody of their own weight across a football pitch, do 5 proper pullups and 20 proper pressups. As a start.

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 26th April 21:16
There's probably only 5-10% of the population that can do that though.

Fortunately I'm one, however it's a balancing act, there's no point in being miserable and slim.

For me, it's very much about about living an active healthy life into my senior years, with a history of Diabetes in the family and seeing what that does to people, I've come to the conclusion that I'm willing to give up 4-5 hrs a week of my time to exercise and happy to skip desert and eat more salad than the average man.

The thing is "old age" can sometimes be just your body giving up on the abuse you've given it for years, carrying 2-3 stone of weight for 20-30 years will take it's toll on your body in various ways, causing you to lose your mobility and therefore independence. Being completely healthy and a bit chubby then keeling over at 75 is very much the exception, the reality is more pain, discomfort and your life becoming more and more narrow due to health conditions...want to retire to Spain?..... can't due to Heart problems or Diabetes, want to not live in assisted accommodation when you kill off your wife biggrin you can't because your knees are knackered and you can't walk without a wobbly fall.

I want to be the 80 year old who's still on the golf course in Maliga 5 times a week, but I'll still have a G and T (or two) after it!

Edited by Electronicpants on Friday 27th April 11:51

MC Bodge

21,552 posts

174 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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travel is dangerous said:
MC Bodge said:
I would suggest that able bodied men should be able to run 5k in 25 minutes, fireman's lift/ carry somebody of their own weight across a football pitch, do 5 proper pullups and 20 proper pressups. As a start.
I think this is a bit of a weird mix, isn’t it?
I think 5 pull-ups and 20 press-ups is pretty easy (few weeks practice to get to those, I think) carrying 70kg 60 metres or whatever is pretty hard (I’ve never tried though) and 25 min 5k is a pretty high target for someone not used to running (would take a year or two get there I suspect).
It was supposed to be a "weird mix". They were just some general low baselines that I thought of based on things I have read about and done.

25min 5k may well sound difficult to an inactive man, but the point is that it shouldn't be. (it is only 3.1 miles atunder 7.5mph. Walking quickly is 4mph)

If you are overweight then carrying an overweight man on your shoulders will be harder than if you are lean and carrying a lean man.

Proper, good form pressups require good core strength. -For a proper test, try flat on the floor and your hands raised between reps.

Proper pullups with palms facing away (and none of this swinging or Kipping nonsense) are probably beyond most mem, but shouldn't be. Again, easier if you are not overweight.

Monkey bars would be another test. How many would fail, even if their life depended on it?

If you are overweight you will find all of the above more difficult than if you are not.

"Be strong to be useful"

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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EazyDuz said:
wsurfa said:
In true PH stair dominating goateed director style, I'm 183cm and 105-107kg (6 foot & c 16.5 stone), clearly this is 101% muscle and BMI measurements are rubbish......

Clothes: Trousers are 34 or 36 depending on who made them, chest c 46/48, neck 18 and weirdly long arms(I'm blaming them for an additional 5kg).

I was up to 5kg heavier when younger, but bodyfat will be higher now, most of the time from age 23-35 I was 100-108kg. I was a runt when I turned 18 though at c 70kg
Dat you Brock Lesnar? Estats of peace
Just another 30kg needed (and probably 50kg of actual muscle)....

dieselgrunt

685 posts

163 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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hmm, i have run 10 half marathons and can't manage a 25min 5k ! My best is 27mins, though t's not a distance i focus on.
I can easily do 50 good form press ups and 10 full pull-ups. But a 25min 5k would take me some real effort. Thats 8mins per mile.

Ari

19,328 posts

214 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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MC Bodge said:
"Be strong to be useful"
Get a life? biggrin

Ari

19,328 posts

214 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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dieselgrunt said:
hmm, i have run 10 half marathons and can't manage a 25min 5k ! My best is 27mins, though t's not a distance i focus on.
I can easily do 50 good form press ups and 10 full pull-ups. But a 25min 5k would take me some real effort. Thats 8mins per mile.
You bloater, you're a scourge on society, a drain on the NHS and you don't deserve to breathe the same air as us finely tuned athletes! laugh

This is rapidly turning into another of those classic PH threads. biggrin

MC Bodge

21,552 posts

174 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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dieselgrunt said:
hmm, i have run 10 half marathons and can't manage a 25min 5k ! My best is 27mins, though t's not a distance i focus on.
I can easily do 50 good form press ups and 10 full pull-ups. But a 25min 5k would take me some real effort. Thats 8mins per mile.
It is indeed. 8 min/mile isn't fast for 3 miles.

5k doesn't require massive stamina. Do your local Park Run a few times and your half marathon speed will probably improve.

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 27th April 13:36

MC Bodge

21,552 posts

174 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Ari said:
MC Bodge said:
"Be strong to be useful"
Get a life? biggrin
I have one, thanks wink

Ari

19,328 posts

214 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Clearly. wink

TameRacingDriver

18,048 posts

271 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Ari said:
You bloater, you're a scourge on society, a drain on the NHS and you don't deserve to breathe the same air as us finely tuned athletes! laugh

This is rapidly turning into another of those classic PH threads. biggrin
Doesn't it always biggrin

If you're not a triathlete then you should be shot, etc smile

travel is dangerous

1,853 posts

83 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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MC Bodge said:
It is indeed. 8 min/mile isn't fast for 3 miles.
but even for a 70kg 'normal' person, without a bit of training its basically impossible. I could do it fireman's carrying a fireman, obviously.

just looked at the most recent park run results for my local one. the first 220 runners were under 25:00 but that is in a field of 580. So even most 'regular' (bit of assumption) runners don't make your target.

(just done my second run of the day btw).

at least the OP knows who contact now to get his wife in shape. smile

Edited by travel is dangerous on Friday 27th April 13:23

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

166 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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travel is dangerous said:
MC Bodge said:
It is indeed. 8 min/mile isn't fast for 3 miles.
just looked at the most recent park run results for my local one. the first 220 runners were under 25:00 but that is in a field of 580. So even most 'regular' (bit of assumption) runners don't make your target.

Edited by travel is dangerous on Friday 27th April 13:23
You'll probably find that the first 220 runners are putting much more effort in, relative to their max heart rate than the runners behind them.

MC Bodge

21,552 posts

174 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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travel is dangerous said:
MC Bodge said:
It is indeed. 8 min/mile isn't fast for 3 miles.
but even for a 70kg 'normal' person, without a bit of training its basically impossible. I could do it fireman's carrying a fireman, obviously.

just looked at the most recent park run results for my local one. the first 220 runners were under 25:00 but that is in a field of 580. So even most 'regular' (bit of assumption) runners don't make your target.

(just done my second run of the day btw).

at least the OP knows who contact now to get his wife in shape. smile
That's a bit misleading.

More than half of those people will be women, many won't be pushing themselves hard, many will walk and only the people near the front are running from the gun.