Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 4]
Discussion
Are Huawei phones banned on military bases?
My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's b
ks and he's winding her up.
Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's b
ks and he's winding her up.Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
OpulentBob said:
Are Huawei phones banned on military bases?
My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's bks and he's winding her up.
Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
Not banned on UK bases. It's mostly political bluster with no real evidence that anything is happening. Certainly regarding phones at least.My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's b
ks and he's winding her up.Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
The American government passed some bill to remove all Chinese networking gear from government facilities but it proved rather more difficult than they realised when it turned out the Pentagon was almost exclusively built on Chinese hardware.
There were reports of military people being tracked by their phones but it wasn't exclusive to Chinese brands, it was simply the built in tracking software that all phones have, although I believe it was being activated by an app. The problem was it showed various American
It all seems to be paranoia and the west being concerned that the Chinese will take over and push out the Western firms, these firms (some fruity named) have a lot of push with various political people in the US. The irony being that even the Western firms have the manufacturing done in China so it's all rather pointless.
poing said:
It's mostly political bluster with no real evidence that anything is happening. Certainly regarding phones at least.
Political bluster and protectionism. It's the Trump Administration trying to "Make America Great Again" (tm) by banning non-American hardware. What they don't seem to grasp is that even "American" hardware is made in China. poing said:
OpulentBob said:
Are Huawei phones banned on military bases?
My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's bks and he's winding her up.
Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
Not banned on UK bases. It's mostly political bluster with no real evidence that anything is happening. Certainly regarding phones at least.My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's b
ks and he's winding her up.Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
The American government passed some bill to remove all Chinese networking gear from government facilities but it proved rather more difficult than they realised when it turned out the Pentagon was almost exclusively built on Chinese hardware.
There were reports of military people being tracked by their phones but it wasn't exclusive to Chinese brands, it was simply the built in tracking software that all phones have, although I believe it was being activated by an app. The problem was it showed various American
It all seems to be paranoia and the west being concerned that the Chinese will take over and push out the Western firms, these firms (some fruity named) have a lot of push with various political people in the US. The irony being that even the Western firms have the manufacturing done in China so it's all rather pointless.
poing said:
OpulentBob said:
Are Huawei phones banned on military bases?
My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's bks and he's winding her up.
Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
Not banned on UK bases. It's mostly political bluster with no real evidence that anything is happening. Certainly regarding phones at least.My brother (serving) has admonished my mum for buying a Huawei phone and says she cannot bring it on base when she visits him, because they track and listen to conversations etc.
I think it's b
ks and he's winding her up.Google says it's valid for US bases but mentions nowt about UK. Anyone know anything?
The American government passed some bill to remove all Chinese networking gear from government facilities but it proved rather more difficult than they realised when it turned out the Pentagon was almost exclusively built on Chinese hardware.
There were reports of military people being tracked by their phones but it wasn't exclusive to Chinese brands, it was simply the built in tracking software that all phones have, although I believe it was being activated by an app. The problem was it showed various American
It all seems to be paranoia and the west being concerned that the Chinese will take over and push out the Western firms, these firms (some fruity named) have a lot of push with various political people in the US. The irony being that even the Western firms have the manufacturing done in China so it's all rather pointless.
Exige77 said:
Sounds like your not familiar with life in China or how US military “holiday makers” operate or that most of the foreign owned hardware producers are preparing facilities in “other places”.
Those "other places" not exactly being countries you'd trust any further than the Chinese. poing said:
Exige77 said:
Sounds like your not familiar with life in China or how US military “holiday makers” operate or that most of the foreign owned hardware producers are preparing facilities in “other places”.
Those "other places" not exactly being countries you'd trust any further than the Chinese. 
Their all wronguns.Actually there is a difference !
98elise said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Johnspex said:
Bentley. That's a great name for a car. Is it a great name because it's a great car, or is the name part of what made the car great?. Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, all the great cars have great names is that co-incidence? Ford is a great name at the other end of the scale, Hillman, Sunbeam, Humber, are the names contributors the companies' demise?
Would Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
pWould Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
I think it works exactly the other way round.
A good example would be Range Rover Vs Rover. One is a luxury successful brand, one is a defunct brand that used to make average saloon cars.
Exige77 said:
poing said:
Exige77 said:
Sounds like your not familiar with life in China or how US military “holiday makers” operate or that most of the foreign owned hardware producers are preparing facilities in “other places”.
Those "other places" not exactly being countries you'd trust any further than the Chinese. Their all wronguns.Actually there is a difference !
Chinese gov quietly changed some chips at the base IO level when they were being manufactured to report the data back...
Obviously all the governments are at it, and I bet there's lots of "cool" tech floating around gathering/reporting.
Lazadude said:
But all this has stemmed from finding spyware on the hardware/base IO of servers manufactured in China for data center grade stuff in the US. (You can't flash over/software scan that level.)
Chinese gov quietly changed some chips at the base IO level when they were being manufactured to report the data back...
Obviously all the governments are at it, and I bet there's lots of "cool" tech floating around gathering/reporting.
You mean like if someone were to put a tap on the main transatlantic data cables? Chinese gov quietly changed some chips at the base IO level when they were being manufactured to report the data back...
Obviously all the governments are at it, and I bet there's lots of "cool" tech floating around gathering/reporting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
poing said:
There were reports of military people being tracked by their phones but it wasn't exclusive to Chinese brands, it was simply the built in tracking software that all phones have, although I believe it was being activated by an app. The problem was it showed various American spies military personnel in places they really shouldn't be in China, Russia and the middle east.
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Wasn't that Strava or a similar fitness tracker app which, when they made the data public of all people's popular run routes, highlighted loads of military base layouts and where people start/end their run vs where they run around?.
QuartzDad said:
When did we start tying shoelaces the way we do? Who came up with it? Do all countries do it the same way? Is there a 'better' way? Why does my brain work like this at five in the morning?
There are loads of ways of tying laces, apparently. Some quite esoteric and decorative. Even the "normal" way has variations. Do you do the "one long side looped over and over" way or the "symmetrical equal length side to side" way? And even that one has variants as to whether you go "in and round" or "out and round".
98elise said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Johnspex said:
Bentley. That's a great name for a car. Is it a great name because it's a great car, or is the name part of what made the car great?. Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, all the great cars have great names is that co-incidence? Ford is a great name at the other end of the scale, Hillman, Sunbeam, Humber, are the names contributors the companies' demise?
Would Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
pWould Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
I think it works exactly the other way round.
A good example would be Range Rover Vs Rover. One is a luxury successful brand, one is a defunct brand that used to make average saloon cars.
FiF said:
Reg32 is so old stuff now. He needs to get with the times and upgrade to Reg64 
Rich_W said:
3 years ago. I damaged my hand tendons. I had an operation which means I have stitches inside forever. When it's REALLY cold. My hand aches in that area. My other hand doesn't get it anywhere near as bad.
Why?
Lots of old wives tales about stuff like this over the years, current (unproven) theory is the low pressure that brings bad weather compresses soft tissue which squeezes damaged/repaired nerves. I Googled that as it intrigued me, as I have lots of old joint injuries - but I enjoy cold weather quite a bit with no pain.Why?
Johnspex said:
98elise said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Johnspex said:
Bentley. That's a great name for a car. Is it a great name because it's a great car, or is the name part of what made the car great?. Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, all the great cars have great names is that co-incidence? Ford is a great name at the other end of the scale, Hillman, Sunbeam, Humber, are the names contributors the companies' demise?
Would Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
pWould Rolls have been as good tied up with e.g. McTavish, did the alliteration help?
I think it works exactly the other way round.
A good example would be Range Rover Vs Rover. One is a luxury successful brand, one is a defunct brand that used to make average saloon cars.
popeyewhite said:
Lots of old wives tales about stuff like this over the years, current (unproven) theory is the low pressure that brings bad weather compresses soft tissue which squeezes damaged/repaired nerves. I Googled that as it intrigued me, as I have lots of old joint injuries - but I enjoy cold weather quite a bit with no pain.
Interesting that they cant pin it down.
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