"Monthly from"... surprise

"Monthly from"... surprise

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Moonpie21

Original Poster:

532 posts

92 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I shouldn't be so naive.

I was doing my usual play with the car configurator for whatever flight of fancy is keeping me distracted at that particular moment when I got to the options section.

Skoda now provide the price for options with a "monthly from" price, so now you can see that keyless entry a £210 option will add approximately £4.91 to your monthly.

I get that this is the way new car buying is headed, in that the question manufacturers now ask is; how much can you afford a month? But I didn't realise it was so obvious... it makes it incredibly easy to ignore the overall commitment or true cost and justify oh it's only another £5 a month without actually thinking.

I guess the end result will be that proposed Volvo model "Care by Volvo subscription ownership plan", it was available on the XC40 and I assume every manufacturer will end up offering something similar to this and you just choose a subscription level.

Edited by Moonpie21 on Monday 20th August 19:02

The Turbonator

2,792 posts

151 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I know that this is the modern way to own a car but I just can't get on board with it to be honest.

Yes I know that in some cases you lose less money, when you take into account the depreciation but paying hundreds per month and then not having anything at the end of the contract, is completely alien to me.

gl20

1,123 posts

149 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Working out the overall commitment or true cost is surely harder when you buy a car the old way? This new approach means once you've finalised the deal there are far fewer variable.

Of course, greater certainty doesn't mean cheaper overall..

Wooda80

1,743 posts

75 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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gl20 said:
Working out the overall commitment or true cost is surely harder when you buy a car the old way?
This is the reason that so many prefer it as it means that they don't have to face up to the true overall cost until it's too late laugh



jeremyh1

1,350 posts

127 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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The Turbonator said:
I know that this is the modern way to own a car but I just can't get on board with it to be honest.

Yes I know that in some cases you lose less money, when you take into account the depreciation but paying hundreds per month and then not having anything at the end of the contract, is completely alien to me.
I agree and many of those purchasing these cars (or borrowing them) are already one payday away from poverty so its a bad thing .
I just want cars that are paid for 5 7 10 or even 25 years old . As long as they are fully paid for the day they arrive here !

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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From what I understand, Skoda are doing away with the choice of speccing options, and moving towards fitting them as standard depending on what trim level is chosen.

stichill99

1,042 posts

181 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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My mum has just bought a Tiguan and the salesman told her there are going to be 3 spec levels. Once you have decided if you are going Top,Middle or Bottom ,the only thing you choose is the colour! It's all to do with new emissions regulations. If they didn't do it this way every possible variable of options on a car would have to be individually tested.

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Makes sense really. When 80% of your customers rent their cars rather than owning them, why quote an up-front purchase price for the options in your adverts?

Glade

4,265 posts

223 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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That also reduces variation on the production line, makes dealer stock easier to manage etc

Hub

6,430 posts

198 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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stichill99 said:
My mum has just bought a Tiguan and the salesman told her there are going to be 3 spec levels. Once you have decided if you are going Top,Middle or Bottom ,the only thing you choose is the colour! It's all to do with new emissions regulations. If they didn't do it this way every possible variable of options on a car would have to be individually tested.
Ah, great - back to the old days (L, GL, Ghia etc!)

Anyway, in terms of the last bit of the OP - I hope not! I dislike how everything in life is moving to a subscription model.

Bennyjames28

1,702 posts

92 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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If your buying a brand new car I don't see any reason to and pay full price in cash if you have the disposal monthly income to comfortably afford the payments.

Only way I disagree with the above is if you intend on keeping the car for say 10 or more years and putting say 10k a year on it.

If your buying an older car that's already had its main depreciation hit I would rather you paid cash than a high interest monthly payment.

I am also a big advocate of planning for the future, so before I even thought about a new car I would want 6 to 12 months of living expenses tucked away in a saving account. Emergency fund comes before having a new car on drive, like someone said a lot of people have all the flash stuff but really are a few missed paydays from losing it all.


Buster73

5,058 posts

153 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Bennyjames28 said:
If your buying a brand new car I don't see any reason to and pay full price in cash if you have the disposal monthly income to comfortably afford the payments.

Only way I disagree with the above is if you intend on keeping the car for say 10 or more years and putting say 10k a year on it.

If your buying an older car that's already had its main depreciation hit I would rather you paid cash than a high interest monthly payment.

I am also a big advocate of planning for the future, so before I even thought about a new car I would want 6 to 12 months of living expenses tucked away in a saving account. Emergency fund comes before having a new car on drive, like someone said a lot of people have all the flash stuff but really are a few missed paydays from losing it all.
Bought a 911 in 2010 sold it in 2014 for £14k less than I paid for it.

The salesman tried to convince me the a personal lease was the way to go.

Deposit and 36 months of payments would have cost me over £40 k at the time.

Now do the maths....

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Hub said:
I dislike how everything in life is moving to a subscription model.
and getting more disruptive by the day

why, some punters are borrowing your car without even booking it first via the app! biggrin

Mandat

3,884 posts

238 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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The Turbonator said:
Yes I know that in some cases you lose less money, when you take into account the depreciation but paying hundreds per month and then not having anything at the end of the contract, is completely alien to me.
This old chestnut.

Usually promoted by those who haven't given the matter any deep thought.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Back in the day you used to rent tellys. I don't want to be tied into renting.
Personally I'd rather just buy something even though it means my goods may be substandard to what I could actually have.
I own my mobile, cars, are all paid for. I have saved money in the bank. Not tied into anything so if the st hits the fan I don't have to give my stuff back.
As for the cars, I'm careful that I buy depressions proof.
I'm renting right now while I look for the right land to build on. My rent is 130e per month so I don't even notice it.

Yeah this thread will go that way again.

Ultimately I want to be debt free and not stuck in a relentlous cycle which I cannot get out of.
If I want to eat a steak in a nice restaurant I don't have to look at the price and weigh up my options.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Buster73 said:
Bought a 911 in 2010 sold it in 2014 for £14k less than I paid for it.

The salesman tried to convince me the a personal lease was the way to go.

Deposit and 36 months of payments would have cost me over £40 k at the time.

Now do the maths....
How much did the 911 cost in repairs in that time?

If you say not much, what risk were you taking on for that not to be the case ? Presume with only 14k depreciation in 4years you didn't buy new

jamei303

3,001 posts

156 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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If I buy a car for cash, when I sell it again for cash at some point I am left with nothing. Just like a lease I have a car during the period I have it, and then I don't.


Sheepshanks

32,715 posts

119 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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stichill99 said:
My mum has just bought a Tiguan and the salesman told her there are going to be 3 spec levels. Once you have decided if you are going Top,Middle or Bottom ,the only thing you choose is the colour! It's all to do with new emissions regulations. If they didn't do it this way every possible variable of options on a car would have to be individually tested.
Looking at SEAT Ateca and they've done that. Think it started with Arona and they've just extended it to Ateca. They call it easymove. One great thing is it includes metallic paint - I really hate paying extra for metallic, it's an almost complete rip-off.

I think it's a good thing. Hopefully dealers will stock more cars - the current business of waiting 3-6 months is bonkers.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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So how does all this leasing work if youve decided to retire early and are just living on your savings, investments and pension draw down?

I guess it doesn't since income isnt regular, just taken as required?

Asking for a friend ;-)

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Every fking day there is yet another finance thread

What the fk is wrong with you people ?

This is a car forum, about cars not about personal finances

The sheer volume of small minded pricks trotting out tired cliches and Daily Mail esque “breadline” comments desperate to show they are somehow “better” than others is getting behind a joke.



Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 21st August 08:36