Being a Carwow Dealer

Being a Carwow Dealer

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engine_master

Original Poster:

4 posts

66 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Hi guys, I am an owner of a dealer of a carbrand, and last week a salesperson from Carwow dropped in to the shop and wanted us to be their member.

Is it profitable? How many leads can a dealer have in a month? (let's say having an average number of sold car brand in UK)

What happens if I don't tell them when I sell a car via their leads? Because, they charge high amount of money per sales. How can they understand if I cheat -not cheat, just walk around like this?

can anyone help me?


The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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This person is obviously completely genuine and requires advice.

Will anyone give him(her?) sound advice?

codenamecueball

529 posts

89 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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engine_master said:
What happens if I don't tell them when I sell a car via their leads? Because, they charge high amount of money per sales. How can they understand if I cheat -not cheat, just walk around like this?
Probably when the customer leaves a review on the website for an amazon voucher and says "I bought a car from here and it was magic"

engine_master

Original Poster:

4 posts

66 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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codenamecueball said:
Probably when the customer leaves a review on the website for an amazon voucher and says "I bought a car from here and it was magic"
yes, i thought about it, but it would be a very low percentage who claims it. then, it is acceptable share of walk around smile

Baldchap

7,632 posts

92 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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My last two car purchases have been through CarWow and so was my brother's last car. Between two of us that's £120kish (all cash purchase).

I can't comment on profitability, but it definitely gets genuine buyers through the door.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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I bought my last car from CarWow from a dealer some distance from me. Were it not for CarWow, I would have bought from a local dealer.

steve-5snwi

8,665 posts

93 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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We got pricing for an F Pace through carwow, 2 of the dealers that originally quoted no longer deal with carwow.

velocemitch

3,813 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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I've used carwow twice too, though to be fair the second time the price was beaten elsewhere.
It certainly puts you in a position to know which dealers are prepared to cut their margins to give you the best discount, whether that is good for the Dealer I can't say, but its good for the Consumer.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Think of it as JustEat for motors and you will get the picture.

Disruptive platform making money out of the money you don't make if you don't get the sale (customer goes elsewhere) and making money out of the money you don't make if you do get the sale.

Simpo Two

85,419 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Trophy Husband said:
Disruptive platform making money out of the money you don't make if you don't get the sale (customer goes elsewhere) and making money out of the money you don't make if you do get the sale.
All too common these days - an internet middleman. Confused, Trivago and many more, all taking a slice.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Simpo Two said:
All too common these days - an internet middleman. Confused, Trivago and many more, all taking a slice.
Which is good for the consumer, if not for the dealer.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Simpo Two said:
Trophy Husband said:
Disruptive platform making money out of the money you don't make if you don't get the sale (customer goes elsewhere) and making money out of the money you don't make if you do get the sale.
All too common these days - an internet middleman. Confused, Trivago and many more, all taking a slice.
Indeed. They're making money out of the laziness of people not wanting to do their own stuff!! As an example myself and my business partner wanted to buy 2 Ford Rangers, one each. By making just five phone calls we beat Carwow by some margin and we got to 'keep' the commission. Same with our recent trip to Barcelona. See what the disruptive platform offers, call the providers direct and do a deal. Trivago wanted 105 euros each for the room per night. We got it for 90 after one phone call.

Unfortunately the providers are generally forced to make use/sign up to the platforms because they are all encompassing and the go to for people that think they're great and getting the best deal. It is really just like Tesco hammering milk farmers down on their price per litre.

Simpo Two

85,419 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Integroo said:
Which is good for the consumer, if not for the dealer.
Superficially. I think of the businesses having to cut down to the bone to keep these middleman outfits hoovering money out from an industry they contribute nothing too, merely suck money from. If you work for any of these companies don't be surprised you're on £8/hr.

The more layers in the cake, the more one or both ends will pay for them.

Composite Guru

2,207 posts

203 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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I found their service really good.

I just bought a brand new Volvo V40 and saved £6500 on the car.
Did the deal over the net, walked into the showroom, met the Salesman that did the deal and then signed the paperwork.

Would use again for sure.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Trophy Husband said:
Indeed. They're making money out of the laziness of people not wanting to do their own stuff!! As an example myself and my business partner wanted to buy 2 Ford Rangers, one each. By making just five phone calls we beat Carwow by some margin and we got to 'keep' the commission. Same with our recent trip to Barcelona. See what the disruptive platform offers, call the providers direct and do a deal. Trivago wanted 105 euros each for the room per night. We got it for 90 after one phone call.

Unfortunately the providers are generally forced to make use/sign up to the platforms because they are all encompassing and the go to for people that think they're great and getting the best deal. It is really just like Tesco hammering milk farmers down on their price per litre.
You're just free riding on the comparison sites by doing that. You wouldn't get the same deal if they didn't exist.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Simpo Two said:
Superficially. I think of the businesses having to cut down to the bone to keep these middleman outfits hoovering money out from an industry they contribute nothing too, merely suck money from. If you work for any of these companies don't be surprised you're on £8/hr.

The more layers in the cake, the more one or both ends will pay for them.
They contribute to breaking down the information barriers that stop dealers having to compete for business.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Integroo said:
Trophy Husband said:
Indeed. They're making money out of the laziness of people not wanting to do their own stuff!! As an example myself and my business partner wanted to buy 2 Ford Rangers, one each. By making just five phone calls we beat Carwow by some margin and we got to 'keep' the commission. Same with our recent trip to Barcelona. See what the disruptive platform offers, call the providers direct and do a deal. Trivago wanted 105 euros each for the room per night. We got it for 90 after one phone call.

Unfortunately the providers are generally forced to make use/sign up to the platforms because they are all encompassing and the go to for people that think they're great and getting the best deal. It is really just like Tesco hammering milk farmers down on their price per litre.
You're just free riding on the comparison sites by doing that. You wouldn't get the same deal if they didn't exist.
Yes I would. Why can't I pitch dealer against dealer? Did the dealers I dealt with know that we'd been to carwow? Why do we need Carwow at all? They just do the job for you don't they? Hence my reference to laziness. Dealers are all about shifting motors and making a few quid. The part ex always helps for them and they get their vig that way. The same with hotels. An empty room isn't making any money but overheads generally remain the same. We got a room in The Clarence in Dublin back in 2010 for 30 euros when the going rate was around 200 IIRC. Granted it was 8 o'clock in the evening when we booked it but 30 euros is better than 0 euros isn't it?

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Presumably the OP works for carwow?

I've successfully used carwow twice now.

For the buyer:

Removes the whole car buying process from the car buying process. I just want to buy a [insert car here] for the best price. Why in 2018 do I have to suffer a sales process that dealerships have been forcing on us for the past 100 years? Click and collect is just fine for me.
If I need to test drive cars first, then I will make a point of buying from the garage that has offered me this (unless they take the piss). Carwow enables me to check what other dealerships can offer so that I can benchmark/negotiate the price at the test drive dealership.
If you use the various PCP calculators online you can also work out the monthlies you should be paying on the Carwow price, so that you don't have your eyes taken on the finance (oo council).

For the dealer:

Genuine buyers through the door
To use carwow, the punter must know the make/model they want so there's less faffing around/tyre kickers
Ultimately should be a much more streamlined and efficient process for everybody.

Fees: Carwow is around £400 to the dealer I think. Knocking that off the price of the car when I buy it is better than any Amazon voucher carwow offers me...whistle

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Carwow Ltd (07103079) last accounts to year ending 31 Dec 2017 show that

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0710307...

69% turnover increase to £15.3m with a claimed 61% increase in value of cars sold by partner dealers

resulting in a gross profit of £14.7m for the year

but an operating loss of £7.9m meaning that, in the life of the company, it has lost £17.8m so far

It had a chunky investment by the look of things - £23.1m paid for the D1 shares issued

I was surprised to learn it has 127 employees, more than I thought

If I had to guess on the pricing structure, I would say it is £300 per sale for cars up to about £30k and a bit more for more expensive cars. There will, I am sure, be some multi element pricing in there: say a registration fee, a chance to be first to receive enquiries, etc.

Gio G

2,946 posts

209 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2018
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Carwow is the ultimate hassle free car RFP platform. I tend to use to get the best price and get my local dealer to match or better the deal. Takes the leg work out of calling lots of dealers. I bet the manufacturers hate it, as they cannot control pricing, with dealers using their rebates to prop up deals.

G