Arguing about money

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Robbo 27

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3,633 posts

99 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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We went to some friends house for lunch yesterday, helluva atmosphere as soon as we stepped through the door.

They have a daughter, his step daughter, who is 29, about to be 30 and the wife wants to give her £10,000 from their joint account as a birthday present. He says she earns £100,000+. has had 4 very extravagant holidays in the past 12 months, uses weed and coke and is generally one of the most objectionable people you could meet. He says, she doesnt deserve anything and appreciates nothing.

This argument was in full flow when we got there and we were asked the inevitable question 'what do you think'.

The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.

The two women thought that this was perfectly reasonable, us two blokes thought WTF, we took some beers and went into the garden.

We went back in after an hour and all we got was - 'are you back in the real world yet?'

Who is being unreasonable here?




Drew106

1,399 posts

145 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
We went to some friends house for lunch yesterday, helluva atmosphere as soon as we stepped through the door.

They have a daughter, his step daughter, who is 29, about to be 30 and the wife wants to give her £10,000 from their joint account as a birthday present. He says she earns £100,000+. has had 4 very extravagant holidays in the past 12 months, uses weed and coke and is generally one of the most objectionable people you could meet. He says, she doesnt deserve anything and appreciates nothing.

This argument was in full flow when we got there and we were asked the inevitable question 'what do you think'.

The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.

The two women thought that this was perfectly reasonable, us two blokes thought WTF, we took some beers and went into the garden.

We went back in after an hour and all we got was - 'are you back in the real world yet?'

Who is being unreasonable here?
Are you trying to compete with the 'Wife and daughter need to get to Yorkshire - Simple?' thread. Everything about that post is ridiculous. hehe

sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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In my experience, money is one of the things which causes the most friction within families. Within groups of friends, lending money alos often leads to falling out, as do some discussions over politics and religion (other subjects can also be contentious).

I try to avoid this at all costs. I am fortunate that my job means that I can be called out at any time, and I have a few friendly clients who will call me if I send them a text.

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.
Is this some kind of tranny-transexual-lesbian-love quartet?

scratchchin

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
We went to some friends house for lunch yesterday, helluva atmosphere as soon as we stepped through the door.

They have a daughter, his step daughter, who is 29, about to be 30 and the wife wants to give her £10,000 from their joint account as a birthday present. He says she earns £100,000+. has had 4 very extravagant holidays in the past 12 months, uses weed and coke and is generally one of the most objectionable people you could meet. He says, she doesnt deserve anything and appreciates nothing.

This argument was in full flow when we got there and we were asked the inevitable question 'what do you think'.

The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.

The two women thought that this was perfectly reasonable, us two blokes thought WTF, we took some beers and went into the garden.

We went back in after an hour and all we got was - 'are you back in the real world yet?'

Who is being unreasonable here?
All depends on context

1) How rich are your friends and how old are they? It could be very good advice to give £10k now as a present to avoid inheritance tax and still be a drop in the ocean to them. If they are 50 odd and that £10k makes up half of their savings then its mental.

2) Regarding the ill husband, it sounds like trying playing the system - why give up the home and pay thousands in care if you can find a way round it. Alzheimers is one of those horrible illnesses where normal advice goes out of the window.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Judging from the OP I think the coke and weed are still in plentiful supply.

Muzzer79

9,932 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
We went to some friends house for lunch yesterday, helluva atmosphere as soon as we stepped through the door.

They have a daughter, his step daughter, who is 29, about to be 30 and the wife wants to give her £10,000 from their joint account as a birthday present. He says she earns £100,000+. has had 4 very extravagant holidays in the past 12 months, uses weed and coke and is generally one of the most objectionable people you could meet. He says, she doesnt deserve anything and appreciates nothing.

This argument was in full flow when we got there and we were asked the inevitable question 'what do you think'.
And you answered??

Why on earth would you not say something like

"It's not for me to say. She's your daughter so suggest you talk it out another time, unless you want us to leave now?"

Massively inappropriate to try and involve friends in a family argument like that and massively inappropriate to answer the question.


Muzzer79

9,932 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.

The two women thought that this was perfectly reasonable, us two blokes thought WTF, we took some beers and went into the garden.

We went back in after an hour and all we got was - 'are you back in the real world yet?'
If one of these women was your wife, I would suggest appointing a power of attorney that isn't her as quickly as possible....

GeneralSinn

11,939 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Muzzer79 said:
And you answered??

Why on earth would you not say something like

"It's not for me to say. She's your daughter so suggest you talk it out another time, unless you want us to leave now?"

Massively inappropriate to try and involve friends in a family argument like that and massively inappropriate to answer the question.
This is my thoughts too tbh.

Although I don’t even think I’d have offered to hang around and just left them to stew on their argument rather than remain in mooted uncomfortableness

Eyersey1234

2,898 posts

79 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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I agree it's not something that they should be involving the OP in.

greygoose

8,258 posts

195 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
He says she earns £100,000+. has had 4 very extravagant holidays in the past 12 months, uses weed and coke and is generally one of the most objectionable people you could meet. He says, she doesnt deserve anything and appreciates nothing.
What is her PH username?

dirty doug

483 posts

195 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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To be honest I think you need new friends

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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JuniorD said:
Robbo 27 said:
The bad conversation turned worse when we heard that a mutual friend, a man, has developed alzheimers and the doctor has warned her that very soon he will not know her and could turn violent. His wife has told the two women in the group that if this happens she will ensure that all the money and investments, including the house, will be turned into her name and then sold. She will then take the husband to a hospital and leave him there and then do her best to disappear, abroad if neccessary, with every penny of the cash.
Is this some kind of tranny-transexual-lesbian-love quartet?

scratchchin
Not sure what the confusion is.
The doctor warned the wife that the man is becoming unwell.
The wife will take various actions upon him being hospitalised.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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sunbeam alpine said:
In my experience, money is one of the things which causes the most friction within families. Within groups of friends, lending money alos often leads to falling out, as do some discussions over politics and religion (other subjects can also be contentious).

I try to avoid this at all costs. I am fortunate that my job means that I can be called out at any time, and I have a few friendly clients who will call me if I send them a text.
I'm sure this is actually a lot less salacious than it sounds! smile Either way I'm keen to learn more, just in case!

sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
sunbeam alpine said:
In my experience, money is one of the things which causes the most friction within families. Within groups of friends, lending money alos often leads to falling out, as do some discussions over politics and religion (other subjects can also be contentious).

I try to avoid this at all costs. I am fortunate that my job means that I can be called out at any time, and I have a few friendly clients who will call me if I send them a text.
I'm sure this is actually a lot less salacious than it sounds! smile Either way I'm keen to learn more, just in case!
Sorry to disappoint - it's very boring. I work in agriculture - encompassing both farming and agricultural contracting - there's always something happening or going wrong, it's just not very exciting. (I enjoy it though) smile

Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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1. You have to be mad to give a 30 year old "child" 10k for their Birthday
2. You have to be mad to ask your friends if you should give 10k to a child for their Birthday.
3. If asked by a mad friend, you have to be mad to answer them.

GeneralSinn

11,939 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Jasandjules said:
1. You have to be mad to give a 30 year old "child" 10k for their Birthday
Why?? Surely it depends on the context??

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Jasandjules said:
1. You have to be mad to give a 30 year old "child" 10k for their Birthday
2. You have to be mad to ask your friends if you should give 10k to a child for their Birthday.
3. If asked by a mad friend, you have to be mad to answer them.
Some 'child' if she's able to earn £100K+ (although rather begs the question of why she should need £10K if she's earning that much).

However ultimately the whole thing all sounds extremely unlikely (and a good way to start an argument on the Internet).

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

7,025 posts

189 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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What job does the daughter do?

NoVetec

9,967 posts

173 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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I'm 30 later this year, tell them I'll take the £10k, ta.