XFR options

[Ephraim]

I am a little confused. I’m looking to shop for a Jaguar XFR, likely the 2009-2010 version. I would very much like the 440W B&W sound system, but can’t figure out how to work out whether it is fitted or not. Many adverts are a little vague on the subject and was wondering whether there was an easy way to identify cars with it, simply from interior pictures. Also, were the cooling seats an option or standard on all XFRs of this era?

[LC23]

I've got a 2012 XFR with the B&W system. It is very obvious as it says Bowers & Wilkins on the speaker on the dash.

[Ephraim]

Is that the raised one by the windscreen? If so, I think that was a post 2011 facelift thing. The pre facelift cars seem to have central speakers flush to the top of the dash.

[fatboy b]

XFRs will have a portfolio interior. That would include heated / cooled seats and a 1200w b&w, though the latter might be the facelift model, otherwise it’s 440w.

[fatboy b]

Oh, and get a warranty of some kind. The engine isn’t bullet proof. My 2015 R-S is currently in having about £12k worth of engine work.

[LC23]

Ephraim said:

Is that the raised one by the windscreen? If so, I think that was a post 2011 facelift thing. The pre facelift cars seem to have central speakers flush to the top of the dash.

That's correct. Mine also has B&W on the front door card speakers as well.

[pd2]

I run a 59 plate XFR, so exactly what your looking at.

From memory the base system for this year was 380w and didn’t have any logos on the speaker grills but did run b&w speakers but not the b&w amp etc.

Then it goes to the 440w system with b&w logos on grills and b&w amp etc.
Then up to a 1200w system.

I have the base 380w system, it sounds just ok, but I’m more a window down and listen to exhaust guy.

Cooling/heated seats were standard.

When looking at early ones, check if the supercharger/nose has been rebuilt/replaced, there known to wear and rattle.

Paul.

Edited by pd2 on Thursday 8th August 12:57

[Ephraim]

Thanks for the advice. Just need to get out there and look at a few now. Third party warranty seems to be about £100pcm so might go with that for peace of mind.

Looking for one with the B&W 440W, reversing camera and preferably a sunroof. The latter doesn't seem to have been a popular option.

[pd2]

I’m the 2nd owner of mine.
Just had a look at the original invoice.
Purchased New December 2009. Prices include vat.

Car - £60205
Delivery - £525
Road Fund - £460

Options.

Sunroof - £995
Parking aid/camera - £395
Blind spot monitor - £450
Adaptive cruise control - £995
Illuminated tread plates - £286

Original purchaser did get £4K discount , which pretty much covers the options.

[Etypephil]

Ephraim said:

Thanks for the advice. Just need to get out there and look at a few now. Third party warranty seems to be about £100pcm so might go with that for peace of mind.

Looking for one with the B&W 440W, reversing camera and preferably a sunroof. The latter doesn't seem to have been a popular option.

XFs are much better without the sunroof; the car is more rigid, and there is no opportunity for leaks via blocked or corroded drainage channels.

[BUG4LIFE]

fatboy b said:

Oh, and get a warranty of some kind. The engine isn’t bullet proof. My 2015 R-S is currently in having about £12k worth of engine work.

That is pretty unusual for this engine though isn’t it. Isn’t the general consensus that it is very nearly bulletproof?

[fatboy b]

BUG4LIFE said:

fatboy b said:

Oh, and get a warranty of some kind. The engine isn’t bullet proof. My 2015 R-S is currently in having about £12k worth of engine work.

That is pretty unusual for this engine though isn’t it. Isn’t the general consensus that it is very nearly bulletproof?

Judging by the noise some make that I’ve heard, it’s more common than you think. I’ve had two chain tensioners fail, and now a manufacturing defect with one of the tappets. Needs one new cylinder head, and the other refurbed. I’d guess 25% of those I’ve heard have something going on that’s not intended.

[BUG4LIFE]

fatboy b said:

BUG4LIFE said:

fatboy b said:

Oh, and get a warranty of some kind. The engine isn’t bullet proof. My 2015 R-S is currently in having about £12k worth of engine work.

That is pretty unusual for this engine though isn’t it. Isn’t the general consensus that it is very nearly bulletproof?

Judging by the noise some make that I’ve heard, it’s more common than you think. I’ve had two chain tensioners fail, and now a manufacturing defect with one of the tappets. Needs one new cylinder head, and the other refurbed. I’d guess 25% of those I’ve heard have something going on that’s not intended.

So you’d recommend not to consider running one without a warranty then?!

Just wish aftermarket warranties didn’t have such a bad rep. I’m sure one from Jag is great but probably expensive too!

[fatboy b]

BUG4LIFE said:

fatboy b said:

BUG4LIFE said:

fatboy b said:

Oh, and get a warranty of some kind. The engine isn’t bullet proof. My 2015 R-S is currently in having about £12k worth of engine work.

That is pretty unusual for this engine though isn’t it. Isn’t the general consensus that it is very nearly bulletproof?

Judging by the noise some make that I’ve heard, it’s more common than you think. I’ve had two chain tensioners fail, and now a manufacturing defect with one of the tappets. Needs one new cylinder head, and the other refurbed. I’d guess 25% of those I’ve heard have something going on that’s not intended.

So you’d recommend not to consider running one without a warranty then?!

Just wish aftermarket warranties didn’t have such a bad rep. I’m sure one from Jag is great but probably expensive too!

I guess it’s all about piece of mind, as it’s only an insurance policy. My insurance policy was £934 last October. It’s paid not around £16k since with the engine being taken out twice. It turns out this time was a manufacturing defect on a tappet bucket. So imagine running a £15k older model. That’s now in write-off territory without warranty.