Pistonheaders pay it forwards challenge.
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I need a path building.
I am rubbish at DIY, but I'm happy to come and put some shelves up for you. They will fall down, but I'll have paid it forward.
In all seriousness, this isn't going to work. Whenever I help people I don't want or need anything in return. To have a 'i need to help someone now that someone has helped me" thing hanging over you isn't ideal. What if you can't help someone, or that you agree to help someone then have to back out? There also seems to be no limit on what the help could be, such as the house rewire post from earlier.
It's a nice idea but flawed based on having to owe someone a favour.
I am rubbish at DIY, but I'm happy to come and put some shelves up for you. They will fall down, but I'll have paid it forward.
In all seriousness, this isn't going to work. Whenever I help people I don't want or need anything in return. To have a 'i need to help someone now that someone has helped me" thing hanging over you isn't ideal. What if you can't help someone, or that you agree to help someone then have to back out? There also seems to be no limit on what the help could be, such as the house rewire post from earlier.
It's a nice idea but flawed based on having to owe someone a favour.
Given the potential for walts on here, there are going to be a few posters whom "have acquired a particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long time"; whom after having their house plastered come up short on daughter rescues / whacking out annoying neighbours etc. Just do it like everyone else in Starbucks.
But credit for trying to make the world a better place.
But credit for trying to make the world a better place.
I echo what's put above - love the idea/intent behind this.
How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
Jeenyus161 said:
I echo what's put above - love the idea/intent behind this.
How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
That's a good suggestion. This thread was intended to be anything other than glory seeking. How about a slightly different approach?
People post what they are able to help out with and (if they are comfortable doing so) the region they are based in.
If someone spots someone who might be able to help out, they contact via PM.
If you think its a terrible idea, you simply don't post any skills and no one contacts you.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Missing the point by a mile. Money is a transaction. Someone paying you kindness, then you having to pay it forward is about community, which is what PH is.
Surely though, kindness is spontaneous? Everything else has a market value.I, for example, once came across an old man wandering about in a place where no old man should be wandering. Picked him up. Turned out he had Alzheimer's. Long story short, I got him home.
The thing is, had he been a normal person needing a ride home, that's why God invented Uber.
Same with our man with the cable problem from page 1. Call a professional, hand over some lolly, job done. Now, if I were walking past his house and saw him struggling, I might well be tempted to help as best I could.
What about this am I not properly understanding?
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Just to clarify PR, the concept isn't mine. I saw a film maybe 20 years ago based on this concept. I think PH is a big enough community for it to be our own version of it
I also saw the film, called Pay it Forward. The ending remains the saddest film of any film that I have ever seen.I like the concept - to a degree I think it already happens. This perhaps just takes it a step further.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK. To push it along a little, see if this has legs. Would anyone in the East Midlands like a free car leather restoration, understanding that they are then obliged to pay forward a good deed to another PH'er. Putting my money where my mouth is.
You do remember what happened to the starter in the film, right?surveyor said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK. To push it along a little, see if this has legs. Would anyone in the East Midlands like a free car leather restoration, understanding that they are then obliged to pay forward a good deed to another PH'er. Putting my money where my mouth is.
You do remember what happened to the starter in the film, right?
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK. To push it along a little, see if this has legs. Would anyone in the East Midlands like a free car leather restoration, understanding that they are then obliged to pay forward a good deed to another PH'er. Putting my money where my mouth is.
Yeah, but I want colour change 
TheAngryDog said:
I need a path building.
I am rubbish at DIY, but I'm happy to come and put some shelves up for you. They will fall down, but I'll have paid it forward.
In all seriousness, this isn't going to work. Whenever I help people I don't want or need anything in return. To have a 'i need to help someone now that someone has helped me" thing hanging over you isn't ideal. What if you can't help someone, or that you agree to help someone then have to back out? There also seems to be no limit on what the help could be, such as the house rewire post from earlier.
It's a nice idea but flawed based on having to owe someone a favour.
You don't pay it back to the person who helped you. I am rubbish at DIY, but I'm happy to come and put some shelves up for you. They will fall down, but I'll have paid it forward.
In all seriousness, this isn't going to work. Whenever I help people I don't want or need anything in return. To have a 'i need to help someone now that someone has helped me" thing hanging over you isn't ideal. What if you can't help someone, or that you agree to help someone then have to back out? There also seems to be no limit on what the help could be, such as the house rewire post from earlier.
It's a nice idea but flawed based on having to owe someone a favour.
The idea is that you help someone else in trouble.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
surveyor said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
OK. To push it along a little, see if this has legs. Would anyone in the East Midlands like a free car leather restoration, understanding that they are then obliged to pay forward a good deed to another PH'er. Putting my money where my mouth is.
You do remember what happened to the starter in the film, right?I like the concept!
I work in mental health, anything from dementia to the psychotic so if that's any use to someone then I'd happily talk with them about it and signpost services.
Apart from that I will be travelling to the east midlands from Kent within the next month for a funeral. Have an estate car, if someone needs something moving from Kent a bit further north, it could be done if you aren't particular about the day.
I work in mental health, anything from dementia to the psychotic so if that's any use to someone then I'd happily talk with them about it and signpost services.
Apart from that I will be travelling to the east midlands from Kent within the next month for a funeral. Have an estate car, if someone needs something moving from Kent a bit further north, it could be done if you aren't particular about the day.
andyb28 said:
You don't pay it back to the person who helped you.
The idea is that you help someone else in trouble.
Yep.The idea is that you help someone else in trouble.
My understanding is that the purpose of the thread is mainly to help people willing to do favours to find people in need of them. While there is a certain amount of holding people to account by their receipt of favours through this, it's not so much about that. If you're the kind of person who'd welch on the pay-it-forward aspect, well, not much that can be done to help you there.
Everyone already has a moral demand to use their abilities to help those in need of them when asked, it's sort of a noblesse oblige thing.
It's a nice idea but not really going to make a decent PH thread is it? Someone's in a life or death situation because they need their leather seats restoring on their car? OK let's pretend they are. So you kick things off by doing them the favour and restoring their seats for free on the understanding they pay the favour forward. So to keep the thread going they have to join PH and post to this thread to tell everyone what favour they did for someone, and that someone also has to join PH, and.....
Otherwise it's just existing PH'ers helping out other existing PH'ers, which kinda just happens anyway as a nice side effect of the community on here.
So either way, its a bit of a non starter as a thread in its own right or am I missing something?
Otherwise it's just existing PH'ers helping out other existing PH'ers, which kinda just happens anyway as a nice side effect of the community on here.
So either way, its a bit of a non starter as a thread in its own right or am I missing something?
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