Any info on this 458 please

Any info on this 458 please

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LindsayMac

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569 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Any info gratefully received?
It appears a lovely car.



www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/...


Lindsay



davek_964

8,808 posts

175 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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From when I browsed them in the summer, that looks like pretty strong money - isn't it almost Spider territory?

Taaaaang

6,596 posts

186 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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davek_964 said:
From when I browsed them in the summer, that looks like pretty strong money - isn't it almost Spider territory?
I sold my 53 plate 11k Grigio Silverstone 458 back to the trade in May for 139.

Seems a few k over what I'd expect, this one.

dereksharpuk

179 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Looks expensive.

jtremlett

1,375 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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I don't know it. It has been on sale at Carrs since early June. Always at the current price.

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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OK so in the summer this car came up on the Carrs website so I called up to arrange a viewing. At the time it was very keenly priced but since then 458s have dropped dramatically so this is now a VERY expensive car.

I drove up 2 hours to view it - I was never told during my discussions that this car was not an approved used Ferrari! It does not appear on the Ferrari approved used website and the reason for this was only made clear when I got there!

It is an accidental car. Not a Cad C D E F Z etc but the car has been involved in an accident and has been repaired. The damage was not major enough for it to be categorized and it was repaired at CARRS. It is an owners car for sale on SOR with them.

I was fuming this was not made clear to me before I made the trip up there (2 hours for me!)

Looks like a nice clean car with proper shut lines etc but as you can see it's not selling and I don't want that hassle when I need to sell it so I passed!


LindsayMac

Original Poster:

569 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Prancinghorses, thanks for your input, yes I knew it was heavy money but i was working on that to at least get some softening. The hunt continues, such a nice spec too. Low miles which gave me plenty of leeway to use the car.

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PrancingHorses said:
OK so in the summer this car came up on the Carrs website so I called up to arrange a viewing. At the time it was very keenly priced but since then 458s have dropped dramatically so this is now a VERY expensive car.

I drove up 2 hours to view it - I was never told during my discussions that this car was not an approved used Ferrari! It does not appear on the Ferrari approved used website and the reason for this was only made clear when I got there!

It is an accidental car. Not a Cad C D E F Z etc but the car has been involved in an accident and has been repaired. The damage was not major enough for it to be categorized and it was repaired at CARRS. It is an owners car for sale on SOR with them.

I was fuming this was not made clear to me before I made the trip up there (2 hours for me!)

Looks like a nice clean car with proper shut lines etc but as you can see it's not selling and I don't want that hassle when I need to sell it so I passed!

jtremlett

1,375 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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PrancingHorses said:
OK so in the summer this car came up on the Carrs website so I called up to arrange a viewing. At the time it was very keenly priced but since then 458s have dropped dramatically so this is now a VERY expensive car.

I drove up 2 hours to view it - I was never told during my discussions that this car was not an approved used Ferrari! It does not appear on the Ferrari approved used website and the reason for this was only made clear when I got there!

It is an accidental car. Not a Cad C D E F Z etc but the car has been involved in an accident and has been repaired. The damage was not major enough for it to be categorized and it was repaired at CARRS. It is an owners car for sale on SOR with them.

I was fuming this was not made clear to me before I made the trip up there (2 hours for me!)

Looks like a nice clean car with proper shut lines etc but as you can see it's not selling and I don't want that hassle when I need to sell it so I passed!
Strange. It does appear on Ferrari Approved here: https://preowned.ferrari.com/en/en/search/2013/fer... and has done since the beginning of June. It also clearly has Ferrari Approved on the number plate in the photos.

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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That’s interesting as back then it did not qualify for the approve used scheme. It seems there may have been additional work carried out to bring it in line with the required criteria/standards so now does..not sure.

It definitely has been accident repaired though so if they now hide that fact (as it qualifies) then I would be inclined to request an independent inspection on the car to assess the repairs.

Either way though, with so much choice out there what’s the point!?

Agree it is a lovely spec car though!

Order66

6,728 posts

249 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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PrancingHorses said:
Either way though, with so much choice out there what’s the point!?

Agree it is a lovely spec car though!
That's the thing - is there much choice? There's a good number of cars out there but few with a decent spec. I'd say the current market is showing a number of low quality cars which I'm not sure represent the full price spread.

Greshamst

2,051 posts

120 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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LindsayMac said:
Low miles which gave me plenty of leeway to use the car.
What would you do if you bought a car with higher mileage, not drive it?

LindsayMac

Original Poster:

569 posts

202 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Strange comment, I am actively planning to avoid buying a higher mileage car, so I can drive it without mileage concern........not in my plan to have a 50k miles 458.



Greshamst said:
LindsayMac said:
Low miles which gave me plenty of leeway to use the car.
What would you do if you bought a car with higher mileage, not drive it?

LindsayMac

Original Poster:

569 posts

202 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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You are very correct, as soon as you want CF seats the numbers drop dramatically.

Option 2 is here below

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Any information on this car?


Order66 said:
That's the thing - is there much choice? There's a good number of cars out there but few with a decent spec. I'd say the current market is showing a number of low quality cars which I'm not sure represent the full price spread.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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When you compare a 458 with CF seats and all the other CF interior to another similar one without the CF seats you'll see the huge difference in values..A 458 without the CF seats is very tough to shift even when £15K less than another with them.

Durzel

12,256 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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I’m not so sure 11k mileage is great. It really depends on your anticipated usage. It is of course low mileage in the grand scheme of things, but it’s not garage queen mileage and it’s not “normal car mileage” like 20k+

If you put 10k on that car you’d be selling to a different “high mileage” market, imo.

Durzel

12,256 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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PrancingHorses said:
It definitely has been accident repaired though so if they now hide that fact (as it qualifies) then I would be inclined to request an independent inspection on the car to assess the repairs.
How did you find out it was accident damaged out of interest?

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Order66 said:
PrancingHorses said:
Either way though, with so much choice out there what’s the point!?

Agree it is a lovely spec car though!
That's the thing - is there much choice? There's a good number of cars out there but few with a decent spec. I'd say the current market is showing a number of low quality cars which I'm not sure represent the full price spread.
It's winter - wait until Autumn and there will be much more choice. The F8 will appear, few will move from the 488 and then few from 458 to 488 etc...there will be a lot more choice come summer.

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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PrancingHorses said:
Durzel said:
How did you find out it was accident damaged out of interest?
The sales guy told me when i fking got there! furious

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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What's interesting is that a fully loaded 458 with all the carbon bits is pretty close to the price of a Huracan Performante which is a much newer and better car IMHO!

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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PrancingHorses said:
What's interesting is that a fully loaded 458 with all the carbon bits is pretty close to the price of a Huracan Performante which is a much newer and better car IMHO!
Better only if you prefer a 4WD Lambo..Most people in my experience are either Lambo fans or Ferrari but seldom both..