Ooops - forgot to renew car tax - how long before fine sent?

Ooops - forgot to renew car tax - how long before fine sent?

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Blue Oval84

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5,276 posts

161 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Short story short, forgot to renew car tax which expired on 30th November.

I've just done it online now so all taxed again (and on DD now to avoid ever having to mess about with it again on this car)

What's the score with them sending out fines for failure to renew or declare SORN? I know these are sent automatically but am not sure whether they sweep their database for non-renewed tax on day one of the month, or perhaps allow a little leeway...

miniman

24,950 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I went a week or so over a few months ago, I got a “last chance” letter (just after I’d taxed it in fact).

Blue Oval84

Original Poster:

5,276 posts

161 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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miniman said:
I went a week or so over a few months ago, I got a “last chance” letter (just after I’d taxed it in fact).
Phew - well I've definitely had no last chance letter so hopefully all good smile

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Think you should be ok.

Justin S

3,641 posts

261 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Car owner on our estate hasnt taxed the car for over 3 years, so dont panic as the DVLA have done nothing to me advising on this. It wasnt MOT'd up until August and suddenly it did get one after it failed on bald tyres and wipers not clearing the screen. I guess they actioned that after being reported. Some systems work for the DVLA and some they dont...................So, we are 3 years in and still no VED............. lets see if we can make 4 years..............

timberman

1,284 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I forgot to renew and went over by a month once

got a reminder/final demand from dvla and realised my mistake
rang them up and was told as long as I renewed and payed for the month I'd missed all was good.

GT03ROB

13,262 posts

221 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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You'll have no worries.

martinbiz

3,074 posts

145 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Did one of my bikes 3 weeks late, and heard nothing, if it’s within the same month they don’t seem that bothered, they still get all their money

KevtheRev

123 posts

77 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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So long as you renew within the month you are fine, they don't issue the actual penalty demand until after the renewal month has lapsed.
If you owe for the previous month, ring DVLA ASAP and ask for "arrears". They will let you pay the previous outstanding month and so long as they haven't already sent out a penalty letter, your good.

4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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My Mum forgot to re-tax her car for @ 3 months (only discovered when she asked me to check when her MOT was due on the DVLA site, as she thought it was some time soon. Turned out the MOT had a month to run, but the tax ran out three months ago).

I asked if she had received a warning letter from the DVLA, and she said she hadn't (the car is owned by her, and registered to her house).

She contacted them immediately, admitting what had happened, and the person on the other end of the phone confirmed that the tax was outstanding, but they had no record of a letter being sent out to her, for which they couldn't explain.

By the end of the call, they had decided that, as they hadn't sent a letter, and she'd always paid the car tax in full and on time previously, they would allow her to pay the outstanding 3 months tax, tax the car from that point onwards, and not apply a fine.

My Mum was lucky not to get a fine, but it can happen.

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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If only there was something one could put in the car as a reminder for when the tax is due.......

timbo999

1,293 posts

255 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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55palfers said:
If only there was something one could put in the car as a reminder for when the tax is due.......
Well, if you're really that disorganised you could write the date on a post-it note and stick it to the inside of the windscreen?

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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timbo999 said:
55palfers said:
If only there was something one could put in the car as a reminder for when the tax is due.......
Well, if you're really that disorganised you could write the date on a post-it note and stick it to the inside of the windscreen?
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/95918/death-of-the-tax-disc-has-tripled-road-tax-evasion

miniman

24,950 posts

262 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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55palfers said:
If only there was something one could put in the car as a reminder for when the tax is due.......
There’s really no reason not to simply use Direct Debit these days. When you sell the car, it’s automatically cancelled and otherwise always in place. Nobody pays for Sky TV annually, do they?

EU_Foreigner

2,833 posts

226 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Does not work though if you SORN the car each year for part of the year?

Cyberprog

2,190 posts

183 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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4rephill said:
My Mum forgot to re-tax her car for @ 3 months (only discovered when she asked me to check when her MOT was due on the DVLA site, as she thought it was some time soon. Turned out the MOT had a month to run, but the tax ran out three months ago).

I asked if she had received a warning letter from the DVLA, and she said she hadn't (the car is owned by her, and registered to her house).

She contacted them immediately, admitting what had happened, and the person on the other end of the phone confirmed that the tax was outstanding, but they had no record of a letter being sent out to her, for which they couldn't explain.

By the end of the call, they had decided that, as they hadn't sent a letter, and she'd always paid the car tax in full and on time previously, they would allow her to pay the outstanding 3 months tax, tax the car from that point onwards, and not apply a fine.

My Mum was lucky not to get a fine, but it can happen.
That's a rare bit of common sense from Swansea. She got lucky there!

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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55palfers said:
Yep, absolutely bonkers. So many untaxed cars out there and DVLA don’t ever come a’clampin’ round here so we are using devolved Police powers VERY frequently.

Seizure of ones car does tend to focus the mind...

Mandalore

4,214 posts

113 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Cyberprog said:
4rephill said:
My Mum forgot to re-tax her car for @ 3 months (only discovered when she asked me to check when her MOT was due on the DVLA site, as she thought it was some time soon. Turned out the MOT had a month to run, but the tax ran out three months ago).

I asked if she had received a warning letter from the DVLA, and she said she hadn't (the car is owned by her, and registered to her house).

She contacted them immediately, admitting what had happened, and the person on the other end of the phone confirmed that the tax was outstanding, but they had no record of a letter being sent out to her, for which they couldn't explain.

By the end of the call, they had decided that, as they hadn't sent a letter, and she'd always paid the car tax in full and on time previously, they would allow her to pay the outstanding 3 months tax, tax the car from that point onwards, and not apply a fine.

My Mum was lucky not to get a fine, but it can happen.
That's a rare bit of common sense from Swansea. She got lucky there!
I know someone in the pre digital days who was offered a choice of paying the back tax, OR the fine, which was actually cheaper.

He paid the fine, and nothing else happened.

I think the system is actually skewed positively towards the people who own up, and don't attempt to compound their error.



martinbiz

3,074 posts

145 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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55palfers said:
If only there was something one could put in the car as a reminder for when the tax is due.......
Errr...........how about the renewal notice that everyone gets 2 or 3 weeks before the expiry date??? I don't know why people think it's so hard, you don't have anything stuck in your screen for insurance or MOT expiry, but most seem to cope with that, it's not rocket science.

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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miniman said:
There’s really no reason not to simply use Direct Debit these days. When you sell the car, it’s automatically cancelled and otherwise always in place. Nobody pays for Sky TV annually, do they?
But if you overlook your MoT one year, the DD does not go through the following month and you instead receive a fine, for unpaid VED?