RE: Porsche Taycan 4S | Driven

RE: Porsche Taycan 4S | Driven

Thursday 12th December 2019

Porsche Taycan 4S | Driven

We've been driving the latest, slightly more attainable Taycan in Finland. In the snow. Jealous? You should be...



The ride quality shows some promise, the steering is encouraging and the handling balance has potential. How's that? I'm afraid I can't be any more definitive with my Porsche Taycan 4S verdict because having driven it on snow and ice only, I have no idea how it'll feel on an asphalt road. But I'll go out on a limb and say it probably isn't going to be terrible.

There is a lot you can learn about an interesting new car just by spending time in it, however. I now know the Taycan looks lithe and athletic in the flesh, its bodywork wrapped tightly over hard points that clearly protrude far less than the Panamera's. And with proud haunches and sculptural wings, the Taycan makes the Tesla Model S looks amorphous and blobby, like a month-old bar of soap. What the Porsche doesn't have is the Tesla's cavernous interior; the rear seats will accommodate taller passengers but not in untold luxury, while boot space is no better than decent.


Instead, the Porsche cabin prioritises all the same stuff other Porsche cabins do: material quality and fit and finish are both exceptional and the seating position just so. From memory the front seats drop lower in the Panamera, but even here they fall down far enough to make you feel as though you're sitting in a sports car rather than an executive saloon. Meanwhile, the steering wheel reaches out to greet you and the pedals are exactly where you want them. These are the basics Porsche has made itself a master of in recent years and in this brave new electric world, nothing seems to have changed.

Is this the best interior the company currently makes? Probably. I don't know exactly how useful the fourth screen that sits immediately in front of the passenger really is, but the many digital displays are all beautifully rendered and the menus very intuitive to navigate. The frameless screen directly ahead of the driver, meanwhile, is gorgeous.

In this video I try not to get too wrapped up in what the Taycan is like to drive in conventional terms, but instead explore the way it behaves beyond the limit of grip. Admittedly the limit of grip on sheet ice and non-studded winter tyres isn't particularly high, but even so it was clear the car's clever torque vectoring system (made possible by having one motor working on each axle) was capable of far funkier things than the kind of torque vectoring you get from a combustion engine and conventional four-wheel drive. The video explains that in much more detail.


In temperatures that rose no higher than -5 degrees Celsius - this was Finnish Lapland at the start of December... - many electric cars would've been well out their comfort zone. But the Taycan is available with a heat pump that warms the battery to 28 degrees, where it works most efficiently, protecting the car's range and performance in very cold conditions. Porsche says the 4S will return as many as 288 miles on a charge, which is more than any other Taycan. The 0-60mph time begins with a three (just) and the top speed is 155mph, which is surely more speed than anybody really needs from an electric saloon car.

Porsche's chassis engineers tell me the 4S is only fractionally less sporting in character than the far more expensive Turbo and Turbo S models, all of which makes me think the base model Taycan (for the time being at least) might well be the one to have. It starts at £83,367, which is an entire 718 Boxster S less than the Taycan Turbo S. Although if you don't mind, I won't declare the 4S the one to buy until I've driven it on, y'know, a road.


 

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re33

Original Poster:

269 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Surely as fun as this was, the same experience in a gen 2 Cayman would have been more fun in every respect??

Wills2

22,770 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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re33 said:
Surely as fun as this was, the same experience in a gen 2 Cayman would have been more fun in every respect??
What relevance does that have to the test of 4 seat exec car?








grancab is my hero

767 posts

123 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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re33 said:
Surely as fun as this was, the same experience in a gen 2 Cayman would have been more fun in every respect??
Yeah or perhaps a track day in a caterham, followed by an afternoon in the pub, much more fun

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

97 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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As long as you've had fun driving in the snow Dan. Pretty useless article.

marcom44

45 posts

104 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Looks like a Tesla, ready to go electric I would imagine.

DoubleSix

11,710 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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“available with”

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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If I bought one of these could I charge it at home from my mains plug and how long would it take to fully charge the battery?

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Terms like 'up to 288 miles from a charge' worry me enormously as I can't judge what that really means.

What is the real world range when slogging along the M4 at 85 with the gubbins all running - is it enormously impacted and by how much. I sort of have a feel for how much less MPG i'll get from a car in the real world than it says in the tests - but don't really worry as filling takes a couple of minutes, but should I reduce all range figures by say a third?

I guess the pool of drivers who know are the Tesla community - so I ask them what my benchmark should be, not to criticise Tesla but so I can apply the same real world ratio to other electric cars?


Dave Hedgehog

14,546 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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great vid

Plate spinner

17,687 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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grancab is my hero said:
re33 said:
Surely as fun as this was, the same experience in a gen 2 Cayman would have been more fun in every respect??
Yeah or perhaps a track day in a caterham, followed by an afternoon in the pub, much more fun
Yeah or perhaps testing the back seat of the latest Rolls Royce with Kelly Brook whilst being chauffeured to a 5 star hotel, much more fun.

Dave Hedgehog

14,546 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Plate spinner said:
Yeah or perhaps testing the back seat of the latest Rolls Royce with Kelly Brook whilst being chauffeured to a 5 star hotel, much more fun.
is she still a chunkster?

Plate spinner

17,687 posts

200 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Matt Farah liked it on canyon roads, I think he drove the turbo S model, reckoned it was almost too fast for toad use.

Google one take Taycan.

re33

Original Poster:

269 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Plate spinner said:
grancab is my hero said:
re33 said:
Surely as fun as this was, the same experience in a gen 2 Cayman would have been more fun in every respect??
Yeah or perhaps a track day in a caterham, followed by an afternoon in the pub, much more fun
Yeah or perhaps testing the back seat of the latest Rolls Royce with Kelly Brook whilst being chauffeured to a 5 star hotel, much more fun.
Lol!

It seemed like a Porsche mess about in the snow fun day, rather than a test to me but point taken!

cerb4.5lee

30,488 posts

180 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I wished Electric cars didn't make me so angry...but they just do for some reason!

I know that I should love this because it is the future but I'm struggling big time. I do need a go in one to understand why everyone loves Electric cars though for sure.

Dave Hedgehog

14,546 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
I wished Electric cars didn't make me so angry...but they just do for some reason!

I know that I should love this because it is the future but I'm struggling big time. I do need a go in one to understand why everyone loves Electric cars though for sure.
horses for courses i guess

1 mile in a base model 3 and i was sold, made my AMG feel like an obsolete antique as a daily driver, the instant response is so nice

i would still like a toy for the weekends thou, manual V10 R8 spyder would be top of my list

i think Tesla are missing a trick by not making a long range RWD only model 3 with a track/drift mode to disable traction control, would be a hoot

stuckmojo

2,971 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Numeric said:
Terms like 'up to 288 miles from a charge' worry me enormously as I can't judge what that really means.

What is the real world range when slogging along the M4 at 85 with the gubbins all running - is it enormously impacted and by how much. I sort of have a feel for how much less MPG i'll get from a car in the real world than it says in the tests - but don't really worry as filling takes a couple of minutes, but should I reduce all range figures by say a third?

I guess the pool of drivers who know are the Tesla community - so I ask them what my benchmark should be, not to criticise Tesla but so I can apply the same real world ratio to other electric cars?

That's a key question. I guess the answer is "probably less than half that".

The usual debate ensues: It will still be fine for most people. But if you do more than 100 miles per day once or twice a week or a month, that's not for you. I came to that conclusion after really wanting a Tesla but deciding that - for my specific requirements - tech isn't there yet.

Again, fine for the vast majority, and what a car.

PistonTim

504 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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marcom44 said:
Looks like a Tesla, ready to go electric I would imagine.
Ummm it is electric, that's the whole point of the car.

Hairymonster

1,427 posts

105 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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The first electric car I have seen which I would genuinely like to buy if I could afford it!

Twoshoe

851 posts

184 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Why don't manufacturers of electric cars cover roofs, bonnets and boots (and possibly side panels too) with solar panels? I appreciate they would only provide a small proportion of the required power (and some may not like the look), but it would of course be free, and if you left the car outside all day during the summer (even a British one), it's got to be worth something surely?

Jam12321

164 posts

110 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Can anyone explain what is actually exceptional about the fit and finish of that interior? Im sure it's well put together but what makes it exceptional?