Karndean prices - what?

[steveonts]

Ok so we have an area of about 85sqm which we wanted fully done in karndean, having heard good things about it. The price of the flooring and the fitting scares me. Ive been quoted roughly 3800 for supply and another 2600 for fitting.

Is that the going rate? Have I been living in a cave and not realised how much stuff costs these days? Havent really laid anything myself since laminate about 15 years ago.

[Mack11]

The fitting is expensive because of the prep, usually at least 12ml ply and some sort of screed/leveller.

What is the range your quote is for? I had some Art select previously and was happy with it.

[MOBB]

Have a look at https://www.bramptonchase.co.uk as an alternative, if its of any interest I can get you some discount.

[Sford]

Is that direct from Karndean? Their showroom is worcester/evesham based I think. My parents recently had it fitted and they went direct as it was cheaper than going through any of the resellers.

[bonerp]

I used Moduleo. A better warranty IMHO and a little cheaper.

[Mark-C]

steveonts said:

Ok so we have an area of about 85sqm which we wanted fully done in karndean, having heard good things about it. The price of the flooring and the fitting scares me. Ive been quoted roughly 3800 for supply and another 2600 for fitting.

Is that the going rate? Have I been living in a cave and not realised how much stuff costs these days? Havent really laid anything myself since laminate about 15 years ago.

Looks about right to me ... good stuff costs more money and the prep work needs to be a good quality too.

Done properly it will make you happy and last for ages making it much better value than something cheaper.

You'll be able to shave a bit off the cost going direct if you're close enough and haggling with a fitter but the price is in the right ballpark.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Issue is with warranty if not fitted by a karndean trained person or not fitted with sanctioned products and or process

[BoRED S2upid]

Overrated IMO it’s just really posh laminate for those with more money than sense.

[blueg33]

Very happy with ours - first lot was 17 years old and still looked new when we took it out to refit the bathroom. We have it in all our bathrooms, refitted last summer. The areas weren't huge so it didn't feel too expensive supply or fit.

We live near to the showroom at Evesham, its good to go there and see the range and various instalations

Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 11th December 17:56

[dazwalsh]

LVT is another option, far easier fitting wise with less prep needed. Might find significant savings on fitting and it's getting cheaper as time goes by. Think karndean but a click together version like laminate. I now stick it in all my rentals Instead of laminate. Completely waterproof too.

[V8RX7]

Shop around the price varies - plenty on ebay.

I have some karndean some Amtico and some Polyflor - all effectively OTT for domestic so pick whichever suits

If you google you'll find the warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on - it's by either the fitter or the supplier NOT the manufacturer

I laid mine myself - it's hardly rocket science

I have engineered wood elsewhere and I prefer the LVT - no worry about stains and you can replace a single plank if required

I'd add that I have some next to a south facing glass door - in 3yrs its bleached, visitors wouldn't notice but I think I'll have to redo that part within 5 yrs - which is pretty poor really.

[Podie]

bonerp said:

I used Moduleo. A better warranty IMHO and a little cheaper.

Same here

[m3jappa]

I ended up using quickstep click lvt.

I really can't tell the difference and im pretty fussy tbh. good stuff i reckon.

What winds me up is the following conversation i have had a few times with stick down floor people:

them The floors needs to be totally level.

me we do paving and landscaping, i can do the floor screed.

them it needs to be completely level though and its very specialist.

me its not going to be level though is it, what you mean is flat

them. nope it needs to be level.

me. right ok, if you pull a level line off say the front door to the back door i will almost put my life on it not being level, if you pulled a perfect level from the front of most houses to the back it would be well above or below!

Them. umm ok, well it needs to be totally flat.....

i actually enjoy winding them up to be quite honest.

[Wacky Racer]

Had Karndean down in our large kitchen around thirteen years ago, still looks as good as the day it was laid.

[33q]

Just finished my hall today...well door trims still to do

I used Wickes LVT

Went down fairly easily but going round 6 doorways it’s taken a few hours

Time will tell how good it will look in a few years

I did the downstairs cloakroom in a slightly different Wickes LVT and I’m well pleased with it

[V8RX7]

m3jappa said:

Them. umm ok, well it needs to be totally flat.....

It doesn't even need that, it just needs gentle undulations - no sharp edges.

If you were to shuffle over my kitchen in socks, you'd feel the undulations, you wouldn't otherwise - I used 5 bags of "self levelling" I'd have had to use 50 to get it spot on.

Mine is better than anyone else's I've come across - lets face facts, very few perfectionists are floor layers !

[PositronicRay]

Karndean is practical and hard wearing. Great for a hall or maybe a kitchen. 85sqm is a huge area though, are you sure you want quite that much?

[thebraketester]

BoRED S2upid said:

Overrated IMO it’s just really posh laminate for those with more money than sense.

Nice troll attempt.


Its a great product. OP, have you looked online at supply costs vs what they are asking for, it does sound a bit lofty.

[smifffymoto]

Have a look at Gerflor Senso Clic range.A French company available in the UK.
I did our downstairs 2years ago ( about 300 sqm) and it took me 2 days to lay.
If my memory serves me correct,I paid about 4000€ in France.

[sammatty]

Vusta flooring is another option. Cheaper option than Karndean and (IIRC) a longer warranty.