RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

Friday 24th January 2020

Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation

Plucky SUV's sales trimmed thanks to high CO2 output



Suzuki has confirmed that the UK allocation of its Jimny will be cut for 2020 in order to reduce the impact of the SUV’s high CO2 output on the range average. The 1.5-litre petrol-powered 4x4 emits 154g/km, significantly hindering Suzuki’s chances of slipping beneath the 95g/km range average that will be required by EU law in 2021. Things are even worse for the automatic model, which emits 170g/km, leading to speculation that sales of the plucky off-roader were to be canned entirely in Europe.

The Japanese car maker’s UK arm has, however, assured customers that the Jimny “will remain on sale in the UK in very limited numbers throughout 2020”. Sales in 2019 were limited to 1,200 cars, so it’s possible the supply will dip into three figures this year. How that will affect buyers who are yet to receive their existing orders is unknown. Suzuki said it will “make every effort to ensure delivery to its customers who have already placed an order”, suggesting leftovers from last year could eat into 2020’s allocation.


The Jimny’s struggles relate to its use of a traditional powertrain setup, comprised of that naturally aspirated 1.5-litre four-pot which produces just 101hp at 6,000rpm. The much-loved off-roader weighs only 1,135kg thanks to its dinky size, and could hardly be called thirsty, either, with a combined economy of 41.5mpg. But with the drag of a mechanical four-wheel drive system and brick-like design to contend with, the gutless engine has always been inefficient in operation. The model’s survival beyond 2020 is therefore far from certain.

Of course, Suzuki isn’t the only brand forced to take action in response to the upcoming emissions limit. AMG’s controversial decision to swap V8 power for hybrid four-cylinder drive in its next C63 is almost certainly encouraged by it, as is Maserati’s choice to launch its next GranTurismo – a car equally as famed for its engine as the Merc – as a fully electric model. It’s of no coincidence that Porsche is to turn its Macan into a pure EV once the rule change comes into force, while even the Cayman and Boxster models are due to get electric variants in their next generations. Which makes you wonder why Suzuki hadn’t thought to produce a pure-EV Jimny. It’s not like we’d miss that engine…


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Wammer

Original Poster:

394 posts

188 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Why can't they just put a different engine in it?

Gecko1978

9,708 posts

157 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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makes me wonder if a turbo 900cc engine is an option. An electric motor and batteries might not be possible given its size.


SlimJim16v

5,658 posts

143 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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I didn't think they were permanent 4wd? Freewheel hubs would also disconnect the front driveline.

Blib

44,056 posts

197 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Gecko1978 said:
makes me wonder if a turbo 900cc engine is an option. An electric motor and batteries might not be possible given its size.
That's what I have in my Panda Cross. It does everything I require from it.

Gratuitous photo...... biggrin



warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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article said:
The much-loved off-roader weighs only 1,135kg thanks to its dinky size, and could hardly be called thirsty, either, with a combined economy of 41.5mpg. But with the drag of a mechanical four-wheel drive system and brick-like design to contend with, the gutless engine has always been inefficient in operation.
So it's thirsty and inefficient? How does that work then? I mean it could be efficient but have poor emissions I suppose (my old motorbike absolutely stank of fuel when running but still did 50mpg.

Hub

6,434 posts

198 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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I don't really understand this - it is a relatively new model, and the EU regs haven't come suddenly out of the blue! Wasn't this thought about at the design stage, rather than shoving in what sounds like an ancient old n/a engine? I guess it isn't a large market for them.

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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I really despair at stuff like this.
This is a small, light, economical car. But Suzuki get hammered on this stupid average balls.

It would be too much to expect some relaxing of limits post Brexit, I guess.......

Pat H

8,056 posts

256 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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SlimJim16v said:
I didn't think they were permanent 4wd? Freewheel hubs would also disconnect the front driveline.
They aren't permanent 4WD.

Freewheeling hubs are a blast from the past. Remember them on my Airportable Landie!

I had an old Jimny several years ago and the engine was the worst part of the car.

Would have been so much nicer with a small capacity turbo diesel.


p4cks

6,909 posts

199 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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fk the EU

DaveTheRave87

2,084 posts

89 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Those pesky EU regulations.

We should leave and set up our own regulations, so we should.

Downward

3,592 posts

103 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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27 years ago we were getting 100bhp out of a 1.3 Peugeot engine ffs.

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Thought the engine sounded a bit wheezy when it was released and now it seems a even more bizarre inclusion.


TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,075 posts

212 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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p4cks said:
fk the EU
Yes, fk the EU for wanting to reduce pollution.

Motormatt

484 posts

218 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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V8 FOU said:
I really despair at stuff like this.
This is a small, light, economical car. But Suzuki get hammered on this stupid average balls.

It would be too much to expect some relaxing of limits post Brexit, I guess.......
Blame ze Germans (and probably JLR) for lobbying to get weight factored into the equation for calculating the fines so they can keep churning out the overweight but highly profitable SUVs their businesses have become so dependent on.

The result is that relatively light and relatively inefficient cars such as hot hatches and sports cars etc will get a very hard time, the Jimny is an unfortunate casualty also being relatively light and relatively inefficient.

Good analysis here:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/analys...




budgie smuggler

5,383 posts

159 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Strange they didn't put their 1.2 dualjet engine in. Guess it doesn't fit with all the extra turbo gubbins?

Notanotherturbo

494 posts

207 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Am I missing something? We won't be in the EU in 2021 so do they need to meet that emissions target to sell here?

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Notanotherturbo said:
Am I missing something? We won't be in the EU in 2021 so do they need to meet that emissions target to sell here?
Because we will still be aligned almost completely with EU rules

spikyone

1,451 posts

100 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Downward said:
27 years ago we were getting 100bhp out of a 1.3 Peugeot engine ffs.
And how much CO2 was that putting out? Was it Euro 6 compliant?

uncleluck

484 posts

51 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Notanotherturbo said:
Am I missing something? We won't be in the EU in 2021 so do they need to meet that emissions target to sell here?
One of the hilarities of leaving, we get to keep a load of the previously introduced EU laws and we get to abide by future EU emissions legislation for vehicles.

I’m so bored with all these restrictions and emissions rubbish. When will the world realise the real issue is we need to slow down the population growth rather than worrying about car emissions.

But someone can feel happy they have a DPF or OPF that fitters do take off and clean out into the air/ground/down the drain instead. Genius.

Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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It's no help that its big sister, the Vitara, has been using "prohibited emissions strategies" on its diesels to cheat the EU emissions regulations and is being brought to task. Similar in concept to the VW dieselgate but without the outraged hoo-hah.