Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

[Plymo]

SpeckledJim said:

StevieBee said:

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

Pure guess..... either

a)The heat only cooks to a certain depth. and at the end of each day, the cooked section is cut away to reveal the raw section. The application of heat deals with any pathogen that may have seeped through overnight.

b) The heat kills anything that has developed on it overnight

c) It's riddled but is dealt with the alcohol soup it lands into when eaten.

I like C!

Elephant leg is poisoning the majority of people who eat it, but they just write it off as a hang-over.

(ETA, I bloody love the stuff, and I get terrible hangovers. Suddenly it all makes sense!)

Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 4th March 13:36

I don't think they are supposed to reheat them but I'm pretty sure plenty of them do!
Personally from watching our local kebab guys it's not the meat that's the issue really, it's the salad!
They were putting raw burgers on the grill, then picking up salad with their hands to put on the kebabs and burgers that were done.
They had gloves on though so it's ok
Regardless of how dodgy the meat itself may be, it's then well-cooked, but the salad would be contaminated with raw meat...

Stay safe, don't eat your greens

[glenrobbo]

Evoluzione said:

Oh dear
No-one cares Johnny Briggs has died either

Wasn't he the chap who teamed up with James Stratton to produce a series of engines for lawnmowers and suchlike?

[Abbott]

glenrobbo said:

Evoluzione said:

Oh dear
No-one cares Johnny Briggs has died either

Wasn't he the chap who teamed up with James Stratton to produce a series of engines for lawnmowers and suchlike?
a

Apparentlyy Len Fairclough has gone aswell. That was the lastime I saw that programme

[coppernorks]

The reason Argos and particularly PC World display items that are Out Of Stock in the online listings ?

Why not take them off the listings until they ARE in stock you pus filled bawbags.

Online porn is bad for that too, you like the look of the listed video snapshot, click on it, and it's not available,
a real let down, in all senses of the phrase.

[Dr Jekyll]

coppernorks said:

The reason Argos and particularly PC World display items that are Out Of Stock in the online listings ?

Why not take them off the listings until they ARE in stock you pus filled bawbags.

Online porn is bad for that too, you like the look of the listed video snapshot, click on it, and it's not available,
a real let down, in all senses of the phrase.

+1

This especially gets me with sites selling second hand/collectible items. 'A rare example of the 1953 chrome finished version in good condition except for a small scratch on the setting lever.' But either 'sold' or bizarrely 'Not currently in stock.'

[nonsequitur]

glenrobbo said:

Evoluzione said:

Oh dear
No-one cares Johnny Briggs has died either

Wasn't he the chap who teamed up with James Stratton to produce a series of engines for lawnmowers and suchlike?

Then they invented Astro-Turf.

[droopsnoot]

Dr Jekyll said:

coppernorks said:

The reason Argos and particularly PC World display items that are Out Of Stock in the online listings ?

Why not take them off the listings until they ARE in stock you pus filled bawbags.

Online porn is bad for that too, you like the look of the listed video snapshot, click on it, and it's not available,
a real let down, in all senses of the phrase.

+1

This especially gets me with sites selling second hand/collectible items. 'A rare example of the 1953 chrome finished version in good condition except for a small scratch on the setting lever.' But either 'sold' or bizarrely 'Not currently in stock.'

Or at least have an easily-found "only show items in stock" option.

I suspect they list stuff in case you might be prepared to wait until they have some back in stock, or to help their site appear in search results in the hope you might buy some alternate product that they do have in stock.

It'd be nice for them to differentiate between "temporarily out of stock, some on order" and "not stocked this for years, never coming back but daren't remove it in case it drops our SEO".

[Evoluzione]

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

Because when you heat something up enough you kill the bacteria.

[coppernorks]

Is it hard in the morning ?

Your brake pedal I mean.

Every car I've owned always kept vacuum in the servo for days, weeks,
so the pedal was still soft before your started the engine.

This new car, the pedal is hard every morning as if there is a slight leak, although the brakes work fine.

[C2Red]

Evoluzione said:

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

Because when you heat something up enough you kill the bacteria.

Rice might be an exception; however if you’ve ever completed any good standard hygiene courses, you wouldn’t eat any kebabs..

[davhill]

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

You only know it isn't a donor kebab because there's no foot afoot. That'd be the sole dead giveaway.

[gazzarose]

You know how nothing can go faster than the speed of light, even electricty. So if you wanted a Morse code type signal across a huge distance, like UK to Australia, a traditional electrical telegraph type setup takes a finite amount of time. If you had a reallllllllly long rod or a couple of hydraulic pistons and a long pipe, if you pushed one end, would the other end instantly move 5 miles away. I think for the sake of this problem we'll have to bend physics a bit to say that this hypothetical 10000 rod doesn't weigh a million ton so ignore any inertia, but keeping all other physics. Would a non compressible substance like either steel in the case of the rod or water in the case of the hydraulic system, compress slightly over that distance so that a wave of movement propagates along its length. On a small scale I can get my head around it, but visualising the far end of a 10k mile moving at the exact same moment as the end i poke makes my head hurt.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

SpeckledJim said:

StevieBee said:

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

Pure guess..... either

a)The heat only cooks to a certain depth. and at the end of each day, the cooked section is cut away to reveal the raw section. The application of heat deals with any pathogen that may have seeped through overnight.

b) The heat kills anything that has developed on it overnight

c) It's riddled but is dealt with the alcohol soup it lands into when eaten.

I like C!

Elephant leg is poisoning the majority of people who eat it, but they just write it off as a hang-over.

(ETA, I bloody love the stuff, and I get terrible hangovers. Suddenly it all makes sense!)

Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 4th March 13:36

Alcohol is a diuretic, which makes you need to piss a lot when you're drinking, and results in dehydration the next day. It causes a headache and dizziness. When you are dehydrated you crave salt because you are trying to hold the water in your body. Salty foods are usually wrapped up in fatty foods

Same reason after a night on the lash you fancy a bacon butty when you wake.

[TypeR]

StevieBee said:

Pure guess..... either

a)The heat only cooks to a certain depth. and at the end of each day, the cooked section is cut away to reveal the raw section. The application of heat deals with any pathogen that may have seeped through overnight.

b) The heat kills anything that has developed on it overnight

c) It's riddled but is dealt with the alcohol soup it lands into when eaten.

I had to do a food hygiene course at work. I think 65 degrees C kills all food bugs. I reckon the grill on the kebab van is much hotter than that.
The kebab van where I live, (Thame) looks like a cross between an operating theatre and a F1 workshop, it's so much nicer than the old shonky places I used to use when I was a teenager.

[MartG]

gazzarose said:

You know how nothing can go faster than the speed of light, even electricty. So if you wanted a Morse code type signal across a huge distance, like UK to Australia, a traditional electrical telegraph type setup takes a finite amount of time. If you had a reallllllllly long rod or a couple of hydraulic pistons and a long pipe, if you pushed one end, would the other end instantly move 5 miles away. I think for the sake of this problem we'll have to bend physics a bit to say that this hypothetical 10000 rod doesn't weigh a million ton so ignore any inertia, but keeping all other physics. Would a non compressible substance like either steel in the case of the rod or water in the case of the hydraulic system, compress slightly over that distance so that a wave of movement propagates along its length. On a small scale I can get my head around it, but visualising the far end of a 10k mile moving at the exact same moment as the end i poke makes my head hurt.

I believe a push on one end of a solid rod travels along the rod at the speed of sound in whatever material the rod is made of - very very fast but not instant

[GroundEffect]

MartG said:

gazzarose said:

You know how nothing can go faster than the speed of light, even electricty. So if you wanted a Morse code type signal across a huge distance, like UK to Australia, a traditional electrical telegraph type setup takes a finite amount of time. If you had a reallllllllly long rod or a couple of hydraulic pistons and a long pipe, if you pushed one end, would the other end instantly move 5 miles away. I think for the sake of this problem we'll have to bend physics a bit to say that this hypothetical 10000 rod doesn't weigh a million ton so ignore any inertia, but keeping all other physics. Would a non compressible substance like either steel in the case of the rod or water in the case of the hydraulic system, compress slightly over that distance so that a wave of movement propagates along its length. On a small scale I can get my head around it, but visualising the far end of a 10k mile moving at the exact same moment as the end i poke makes my head hurt.

I believe a push on one end of a solid rod travels along the rod at the speed of sound in whatever material the rod is made of - very very fast but not instant

Correct. All materials are finitely stiff. Therefore take time for the reaction of a deflection to go from one end to the other. This happens at the speed of sound for the material.

[Evoluzione]

C2Red said:

Evoluzione said:

Boobonman said:

Doner Kebab "elephant legs". How on earth can they be heated up, cooled down, then re-heated in perpetuity without serious food poisoning afoot?

Because when you heat something up enough you kill the bacteria.

Rice might be an exception; however if you’ve ever completed any good standard hygiene courses, you wouldn’t eat any kebabs..

That doesn't answer the question though.

[underwhelmist]

SpeckledJim said:

This amazing song I've written and want to release in order to acquire fame and financial security for my family for generations...


...how do I make sure I haven't accidentally plagiarised Elgar or Pussycat Dolls or Don Henley before releasing it?

All my university assignments are run through some software called turn it in, which checks for similarity with other papers. Don’t know if it’s available generally, or if it compares against sources like song lyrics etc. I’m going to try it with some song lyrics and will post results.

[underwhelmist]

talksthetorque said:

akirk said:

her kit:

That's a lot of drill bits!
Slightly unnerving that there's a couple missing. Anyone complained of a rattling noise coming from their arms?

I reckon she’s just waiting for the Snap-On truck to drop by on Thursday to replenish her kit.

[Psycho Warren]

back onto the original thread title....

oddball one, bear with me.

if you are mental and arrested and accused of an offence, under the current justice system, the court can order you into hospital for treatment or assessment. as a prisoner, you have few rights and you only really cwn get out when the court deems you fit. so it is possible to end up in the loony bin for a very long time. plus of course you will have the criminal case hanging over you until fit to go to court if not allowed to convict in your absence.

how is this effected if the charges are dropped? as a normal remand prisoner, as soon as the case drops, you are legally a free man and the courts cant touch you.

does this mean a court ordered psychiatric section for a prisoner becomes invalid at that point?

i ask as under civil rules, being sectioned is tightly controlled, you have significant rights and its time limited and regularly reviewed.

it would seemmo4ally wrong that someone who is no longer a criminal or suspected criminal could be held under criminal rules for mental illhealth.

cant find anything covering that transition.

i would like to think that a prisoner who is suddenly no longer a prisoner as above would have to be set free from hospital if they didnt also meet the criteria for a civilian section?

i ask as when i was ill i came close to this situation but was fortunately allowed bail.

Edited by Psycho Warren on Saturday 6th March 04:56