Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

[isaldiri]

Zumbruk said:

Change of wording noted. I guess that's misquoting combined with 'ad hominem'.

Please note that lies in support of lies are still lies.

You said 2 of them were economists not public health scientists. Which 2?

[Zumbruk]

isaldiri said:

Zumbruk said:

Change of wording noted. I guess that's misquoting combined with 'ad hominem'.

Please note that lies in support of lies are still lies.

You said 2 of them were economists not public health scientists. Which 2?

I don't take homework assignments from strangers on the Internet, even when I already know the answer. I believe the relevant phrase is "do your own research". You could have done it for yourself in less time than it took you to try and provoke me into an argument.

[Gadgetmac]

Zumbruk said:

isaldiri said:

Zumbruk said:

Change of wording noted. I guess that's misquoting combined with 'ad hominem'.

Please note that lies in support of lies are still lies.

You said 2 of them were economists not public health scientists. Which 2?

I don't take homework assignments from strangers on the Internet, even when I already know the answer. I believe the relevant phrase is "do your own research". You could have done it for yourself in less time than it took you to try and provoke me into an argument.

That's not how trolling works

[isaldiri]

Zumbruk said:

I don't take homework assignments from strangers on the Internet, even when I already know the answer. I believe the relevant phrase is "do your own research". You could have done it for yourself in less time than it took you to try and provoke me into an argument.

Well, Kuldorff and Gupta seem pretty obviously to be 'epidemiologists and public health scientists'. Bhattarcharya's work has seemed to involved quite a lot of the 'public health scientist' aspect of things albeit on the economic side.

It's not obvious to me (as compared to you clearly) which 2 out of those 3 are not public health scientists so I'm curious as to which 2 you were referring as merely 'economists'. If you can't answer that then so be it.

[Zumbruk]

isaldiri said:

Well, Kuldorff and Gupta seem pretty obviously to be 'epidemiologists and public health scientists'. Bhattarcharya's work has seemed to involved quite a lot of the 'public health scientist' aspect of things albeit on the economic side.

It's not obvious to me (as compared to you clearly) which 2 out of those 3 are not public health scientists so I'm curious as to which 2 you were referring as merely 'economists'. If you can't answer that then so be it.

The GBD is arsewipe. End of. Gallop off somewhere else on your Gish.

Answer to original question still a resounding "Yes!"

[bodhi]

Zumbruk said:

The GBD is arsewipe. End of. Gallop off somewhere else on your Gish.

Answer to original question still a resounding "Yes!"

Tell me you've been called out for chatting nonsense without telling me you've been called out for chatting nonsense.

Bless. You'll get over it I'm sure.

[Kawasicki]

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

He is still respected today, within both the media and the scientific community at large. He is often quoted with regard to overpopulation, overconsumption and climate change. He is not a fringe figure to be ridiculed. He even says he still gets a lot of respect, as he thinks that only his timing was off.

[Kawasicki]

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

[Gadgetmac]

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

[Killer2005]

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-techno...

[Slagathore]

bodhi said:

Tell me you've been called out for chatting nonsense without telling me you've been called out for chatting nonsense.

Bless. You'll get over it I'm sure.

https://twitter.com/Kat_Cammack/status/1623767503624175617?cxt=HHwWgoC8taD844gtAAAA

Makes you wonder what people's opinion on the GBD authors would be if there wasn't a smear campaign against them.

God forbid other experts get to have a public opinion on the science. Can't be having that in this day & age.

[Slagathore]

Slagathore said:

- https://twitter.com/Kat_Cammack/status/16237675036...

Makes you wonder what people's opinion on the GBD authors would be if there wasn't a smear campaign against them.

God forbid other experts get to have a public opinion on the science. Can't be having that in this day & age.

[captain_cynic]

Slagathore said:

[


Makes you wonder what people's opinion on the GBD authors would be if there wasn't a smear campaign against them.

It's be the same as those opinions are based on reasons and evidence.

[Kawasicki]

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

[Kawasicki]

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

Good, so having posted a link that supports what I said you agree that a 1.5° increase in temperature could trigger a tipping point.

The 1.5° rise in temperature refers to the target limit set by the Paris Agreement on climate change.

According to the IPCC at this level of warming, there would also be an increased risk of irreversible impacts (or tipping points) to natural ecosystems, such as coral reefs and Arctic sea ice, as well as to food security, water availability, and human health.

Glad to see you have learned that temperature thresholds aren’t tipping points.

You’re welcome.

Continue to use the term/concept correctly.

[Gadgetmac]

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

Posts comment disparaging tipping points together with link to science paper confirming that they likely exist.

Good, so having posted a link that supports what I said you agree that a 1.5° increase in temperature could trigger a tipping point.

According to the IPCC at this level of warming, there would also be an increased risk of irreversible impacts (or tipping points) to natural ecosystems, such as coral reefs and Arctic sea ice, as well as to food security, water availability, and human health.

You're welcome.

Edited by Gadgetmac on Friday 24th March 18:08

[Kawasicki]

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

Posts comment disparaging tipping points together with link to science paper confirming that they likely exist.

Good, so having posted a link that supports what I said you agree that a 1.5° increase in temperature could trigger a tipping point.

According to the IPCC at this level of warming, there would also be an increased risk of irreversible impacts (or tipping points) to natural ecosystems, such as coral reefs and Arctic sea ice, as well as to food security, water availability, and human health.

You're welcome.

Edited by Gadgetmac on Friday 24th March 18:08

You‘ve only just learned what tipping points really are.

[Gadgetmac]

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

Posts comment disparaging tipping points together with link to science paper confirming that they likely exist.

Good, so having posted a link that supports what I said you agree that a 1.5° increase in temperature could trigger a tipping point.

According to the IPCC at this level of warming, there would also be an increased risk of irreversible impacts (or tipping points) to natural ecosystems, such as coral reefs and Arctic sea ice, as well as to food security, water availability, and human health.

You're welcome.

Edited by Gadgetmac on Friday 24th March 18:08

You‘ve only just learned what tipping points really are.

You've only just realised that your posting links to science that disagrees with you

[Zumbruk]

bodhi said:

Zumbruk said:

The GBD is arsewipe. End of. Gallop off somewhere else on your Gish.

Answer to original question still a resounding "Yes!"

Tell me you've been called out for chatting nonsense without telling me you've been called out for chatting nonsense.

Bless. You'll get over it I'm sure.

How sweet. Smooth-brainer thinks he's somehow "won" something. Run along now, I expect Mummy would like her iPad back.

[Kawasicki]

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

Kawasicki said:

Gadgetmac said:

LF5335 said:

Kawasicki said:

Sounds great. Plausible, even.


Maybe one reason CTists don't understand such concepts is that they haven't experienced them.
Where is the population bomb? Billions didn't starve.

Where are the tipping points? Still waiting after decades of alarmism - eternally imminent like the continually renewed "points of no return".


Spreading unfounded fear, dressed up as credible science is very dangerous, makes people do really stupid things.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-inc...

In summary a social inadequate who specialises in insect science, writes an OTT book on population growth, which is completely outside his knowledge base. His book was largely ignored by everyone until he put on a charm offensive on a well watched TV show and then he became a star and people latched onto it.

He sounds much more like the type that CTers would latch on to as proof that what he was writing is absolutely going to happen.

His tipping point comment is garbage as well. Tipping points arrive and are passed all the time. The 1.5° temperature increase tipping point has likely been and gone now. Certainly the 1° tipping point has.

It's just typical CT trolling.

You seem to be confusing temperature with tipping point.

Wrong.

No. I don’t think so.

A temperature rise could trigger a tipping point, but in itself isn’t one.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn795...

Posts comment disparaging tipping points together with link to science paper confirming that they likely exist.

Good, so having posted a link that supports what I said you agree that a 1.5° increase in temperature could trigger a tipping point.

According to the IPCC at this level of warming, there would also be an increased risk of irreversible impacts (or tipping points) to natural ecosystems, such as coral reefs and Arctic sea ice, as well as to food security, water availability, and human health.

You're welcome.

Edited by Gadgetmac on Friday 24th March 18:08

You‘ve only just learned what tipping points really are.

You've only just realised that your posting links to science that disagrees with you

The link I posted doesn’t disagree with me. If it did it should be really easy for you to point out from that article the tipping point that has tipped, or in your words “come and gone“.