Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

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Raccaccoonie

2,797 posts

19 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Zumbruk said:
You obviously have not the faintest idea what the UN is, how it's organised, what the different parts of it are, or what it does. Your poorly spell rant is typical of CT-ers; fractally wrong.
(I'm sure insulting my spelling make you feel good but I have only one eye and struggle to see what I type so kudus to you for insulting a disabled person like the big man you are, still doesn't detract from the facts)
I'm not a CTer? So the UN is working well in reducing Global warming, when it's member is the biggest polluters in the world and we only have days left to change? Sorry not sure I understand how this all works?

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
I guess you have to have everything spelling out, the richest members in the world are UN permanent members?
Still ably demonstrating you have no idea how will the UN is organised. Hint; the Permanent Members of the Security Council and the General Assembly are different things. Further hint; membership of the Security Council has nothing to do with how rich the country is.

Most CTers are perfect demonstrations of Dunning Kruger syndrome and you are no exception

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
(I'm sure insulting my spelling make you feel good but I have only one eye and struggle to see what I type so kudus to you for insulting a disabled person like the big man you are, still doesn't detract from the facts)
I'm not a CTer? So the UN is working well in reducing Global warming, when it's member is the biggest polluters in the world and we only have days left to change? Sorry not sure I understand how this all works?
Your last sentence I can certainly agree with!

The UN has decided that climate change is an important issue, but contrary to what a lot of ignorant people believe, the UN really has little power over sovereign nations - it can attempt persuasion, but can't force anything.

And since the UN's members are every nation, of course the biggest polluters are members. As are the least polluting nations.

Edited by AW111 on Tuesday 21st March 11:27

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Raccaccoonie said:
(I'm sure insulting my spelling make you feel good but I have only one eye and struggle to see what I type so kudus to you for insulting a disabled person like the big man you are, still doesn't detract from the facts)
I'm not a CTer? So the UN is working well in reducing Global warming, when it's member is the biggest polluters in the world and we only have days left to change? Sorry not sure I understand how this all works?
Playing the disabled card with me doesn't work because I'm disabled too. Indeed I'm "typing" this using a speech-to-text system and yet my postings are mostly correctly spelled. And I've had a boss in the past who was legally blind, and yet his emails and so on were correctly spelled, too. Hint; use a bigger font.

Still at least your final sentence is correct; you don't understand how this works, yet you somehow think you can speak authoritatively about it.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
Kawasicki said:
andyeds1234 said:
Kawasicki said:
The scientific consensus is that cold is a much bigger killer than heat. Some papers report 7 times as deadly, some 20 times. This is not in any way controversial.

What is also not controversial is the increased global temp has reduced overall temperature related mortality.
You can’t possibly be this stupid.
Have you got some peer reviewed data that proves otherwise. Or do you not trust science?
Unfortunately far more misery and suffering will prevail mainly to those who can least afford it before even the mortality rate advantage for a few countries is wiped away.

It's peer reviewed. The UN published a little something about it yesterday. Or do you not trust science?
The UN recommends a transition away from fossil fuels & nuclear towards wind and solar. Simple statistics has shown that such a transition has increased the cost of energy. Increased cost of energy has increased the misery and suffering of those who can least afford it.
Wrong. They are fine with Safe Atomic Energy. The UN does not have an official stance on atomic energy or nuclear power, but it recognizes that nuclear energy has both potential benefits and risks. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is a specialized agency of the UN, promotes the use of nuclear energy and aids member states in developing nuclear technologies and safeguards to ensure nuclear safety and security.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/10/1048732

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/08/1097572

https://www.un.org/en/UN-system/atomic-energy

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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AW111 said:
And since the UN's members are every nation, of course the biggest polloters are members. As are the least polluting nations.
Shush. Don't confuse him with facts.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Zumbruk said:
AW111 said:
And since the UN's members are every nation, of course the biggest polloters are members. As are the least polluting nations.
Shush. Don't confuse him with facts.
After the last little exchange, did you have to quote the bit of my post with a spelling error?

And I have no impairment to blame, just shoddy typing on a mobile + piss-poor proofreading.

Unreal

3,334 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Zumbruk said:
You obviously have not the faintest idea what the UN is, how it's organised, what the different parts of it are, or{/b} what it does. [b] Your poorly spell rant is typical of CT-ers; fractally wrong.
Oops. You only need one space after a comma as well.


Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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AW111 said:
Zumbruk said:
AW111 said:
And since the UN's members are every nation, of course the biggest polloters are members. As are the least polluting nations.
Shush. Don't confuse him with facts.
After the last little exchange, did you have to quote the bit of my post with a spelling error?

And I have no impairment to blame, just shoddy typing on a mobile + piss-poor proofreading.
Sorry. I did debate fixing it. Besides, it's obviously a typo, so you're forgiven.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
Zumbruk said:
You obviously have not the faintest idea what the UN is, how it's organised, what the different parts of it are, or{/b} what it does. [b] Your poorly spell rant is typical of CT-ers; fractally wrong.
Oops. You only need one space after a comma as well.
Take it up with Google. I don't GAS.

But the irony of your incorrect markup is amusing.

Unreal

3,334 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Zumbruk said:
Raccaccoonie said:
I guess you have to have everything spelling out, the richest members in the world are UN permanent members?
Still ably demonstrating you have no idea how will the UN is organised. Hint; the Permanent Members of the Security Council and the General Assembly are different things. Further hint; membership of the Security Council has nothing to do with how rich the country is.

Most CTers are perfect demonstrations of Dunning Kruger syndrome and you are no exception
Do you think you are exhibiting symptoms of Dunning-Kruger syndrome with your repeated poor use of language and punctuation errors, or is it a lack of education, your disability or carelessness?




AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
Do you think you are exhibiting symptoms of Dunning-Kruger syndrome with your repeated poor use of language and punctuation errors, or is it a lack of education, your disability or carelessness?
This is at least the third time you've tried to provoke someone who disagrees with you by abusing them.

It's a piss-poor attempt at trolling, but still shout fk off with that st.

Unreal

3,334 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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AW111 said:
Kawasicki said:
The UN recommends a transition away from fossil fuels & nuclear towards wind and solar. Simple statistics has shown that such a transition has increased the cost of energy. Increased cost of energy has increased the misery and suffering of those who can least afford it.
So you clearly don't believe any other negatives will come from increased temperatures, like sea level rise, crop failures, water shortage, etc.

You're just focussed on the effects today, and screw the future - I assume you don't have children?
You can't deduce that from what he has said.

The problem many of us have with 'the future' is the highly questionable record of forecasters. This is particularly true when you're older and have seen numerous lurid predictions fail to occur. I think there's a fable that covers it. amongst other things, we should by now be at the dawn of a new Ice Age, have been incinerated by the sun's rays through the ozone layer, have run out of oil and seen our plants and property dissolved by acid rain. I think polar bears are forecast to roam Hampstead Heath before long but you'll understand why I have my doubts.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
Zumbruk said:
Raccaccoonie said:
I guess you have to have everything spelling out, the richest members in the world are UN permanent members?
Still ably demonstrating you have no idea how will the UN is organised. Hint; the Permanent Members of the Security Council and the General Assembly are different things. Further hint; membership of the Security Council has nothing to do with how rich the country is.

Most CTers are perfect demonstrations of Dunning Kruger syndrome and you are no exception
Do you think you are exhibiting symptoms of Dunning-Kruger syndrome with your repeated poor use of language and punctuation errors, or is it a lack of education, your disability or carelessness?
Enjoying your nice Gish Gallop, are you? Add a dash of hypocrisy, 'ad hominem', avoiding the point and "Please Miss, I'm a kwipple so I don't have to be right".

Have you considered actually answering the point? Perhaps go and find out what the UN is? (A favourite blind spot for CT-ers).



Edited by Zumbruk on Tuesday 21st March 12:11

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
amongst other things, we should by now be at the dawn of a new Ice Age
You clearly weren't keeping up with the science back then.

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-i...

cheesejunkie

2,414 posts

17 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
You can't deduce that from what he has said.

The problem many of us have with 'the future' is the highly questionable record of forecasters. This is particularly true when you're older and have seen numerous lurid predictions fail to occur. I think there's a fable that covers it. amongst other things, we should by now be at the dawn of a new Ice Age, have been incinerated by the sun's rays through the ozone layer, have run out of oil and seen our plants and property dissolved by acid rain. I think polar bears are forecast to roam Hampstead Heath before long but you'll understand why I have my doubts.
You do know that the reason some things don't happen is due to measures taken to avert them?

I hope you know that.

You're being a bit overly dramatic but head in the sand doesn't work. Some people do, some just want others to do it for them. I'm pretty sure nobody with two braincells to rub together has predicted polar bears roaming Hampstead. But straw men arguments are common.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
AW111 said:
Kawasicki said:
The UN recommends a transition away from fossil fuels & nuclear towards wind and solar. Simple statistics has shown that such a transition has increased the cost of energy. Increased cost of energy has increased the misery and suffering of those who can least afford it.
So you clearly don't believe any other negatives will come from increased temperatures, like sea level rise, crop failures, water shortage, etc.

You're just focussed on the effects today, and screw the future - I assume you don't have children?
You can't deduce that from what he has said.

The problem many of us have with 'the future' is the highly questionable record of forecasters. This is particularly true when you're older and have seen numerous lurid predictions fail to occur. I think there's a fable that covers it. amongst other things, we should by now be at the dawn of a new Ice Age, have been incinerated by the sun's rays through the ozone layer, have run out of oil and seen our plants and property dissolved by acid rain. I think polar bears are forecast to roam Hampstead Heath before long but you'll understand why I have my doubts.
All those poor straw men!

I assume you're a tabloid reader, as they love to sensationalise everything.

Ice age? I've seen plenty of people claiming that bks, but it's based on one US paper's scare story. Point to a reputable claim that it was coming.

Acid rain? A real problem until they enacted rules to limit emissions from power plants.

Ozone layer? A real problem until they banned CFC's

Do you see a pattern here?

Unreal

3,334 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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AW111 said:
Unreal said:
Do you think you are exhibiting symptoms of Dunning-Kruger syndrome with your repeated poor use of language and punctuation errors, or is it a lack of education, your disability or carelessness?
This is at least the third time you've tried to provoke someone who disagrees with you by abusing them.

It's a piss-poor attempt at trolling, but still shout fk off with that st.
No, it's pointing out to someone who is criticising another poster, and who has dismissed their disability out of hand, that they should perhaps get their own house in order if they want to go down that route. I'd far rather discuss the stated central premise of the thread but that seems to have been lost along the way.

It's a bit rich that I should be accused of abuse - which is really quite ridiculous - in a thread which is characterised by a small group of people who regularly throw insults at anyone that disagrees with their version of events. You aren't helping to contribute to an adult debate with your use of language. People like Kawasicki, PP and myself haven't insulted anyone or resorted to foul and abusive language anywhere in this thread that I have seen or can recall.

I've made my point about glass houses now so hopefully we can return to the central debate.


Unreal

3,334 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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cheesejunkie said:
You do know that the reason some things don't happen is due to measures taken to avert them?

I hope you know that.

You're being a bit overly dramatic but head in the sand doesn't work. Some people do, some just want others to do it for them. I'm pretty sure nobody with two braincells to rub together has predicted polar bears roaming Hampstead. But straw men arguments are common.
Some things can be prevented of course. Some are way beyond our ability. An example being the cyclical climate changes that have occurred throughout history.

You obviously don't understand hyperbole but then that's not surprising if you swallow the popular narrative on global warming, MMGW and its latest iteration, climate change. wink I seem to remember the clock started ticking a few years back and we were approaching the point of no return. Are we there yet?

Apparently we are. We are at 'final warning' stage!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-21/ipcc-scient...

Has anyone told China and India? Should I invest in rafts?




AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Unreal said:
Some things can be prevented of course. Some are way beyond our ability. An example being the cyclical climate changes that have occurred throughout history.

You obviously don't understand hyperbole but then that's not surprising if you swallow the popular narrative on global warming, MMGW and its latest iteration, climate change. wink I seem to remember the clock started ticking a few years back and we were approaching the point of no return. Are we there yet?

Apparently we are. We are at 'final warning' stage!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-21/ipcc-scient...

Has anyone told China and India? Should I invest in rafts?
You post twaddle like this then act surprised that people think you're a bit thick.

Hint - I've eaten cabbages with more intelligence.