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My daughter is still in primary school, year 5. In her class is a boy who has some form of autism where he has his own teacher assistant to help him.
Through the years the boy has becoming more and more rowdy. He is left to walk around the class, forms crushes on the girls to the point where my daughter had to go to the teacher complaining. Obviously he's physically growing and is now become a right pain physically and with his outbursts.
During home schooling lessons Ive witnessed it myself. Sitting next to my daughter working Ive seen the teacher tell him off ( he is still allowed to go into school ) for shouting, or writing rubbish on the google school chat. He's then reacted by kicking over his chair, throwing pens and now shouting things at the teacher. Ive heard the teaching assistant trying to cool him down. Things are getting worse now as he's growing physically. Ive see nthe chat he writes on the school chat session, even to the point of offering out the headmistress.
This isnt me trying to cause a row over handicapped / mental issues, and to the parents that live and breath this I feel for you. However Im concerned at my daughter's learning and Im shocked at the effect it has on her studies.
My question is this, although mixing kids with this level of autism into a normal classroom may develop their social skills / learning better but I believe comes at the prices that all the other kids in the class suffer, do you agree ?
Why should his needs come at the cost of my child's schooling ? I realise the school gets extra funding to take this child but why is his develop seem more important than my daughters ? Is it because he's worth more to the school ? When I was at school these types of kids had their own classroom, with specially trained teachers.
Through the years the boy has becoming more and more rowdy. He is left to walk around the class, forms crushes on the girls to the point where my daughter had to go to the teacher complaining. Obviously he's physically growing and is now become a right pain physically and with his outbursts.
During home schooling lessons Ive witnessed it myself. Sitting next to my daughter working Ive seen the teacher tell him off ( he is still allowed to go into school ) for shouting, or writing rubbish on the google school chat. He's then reacted by kicking over his chair, throwing pens and now shouting things at the teacher. Ive heard the teaching assistant trying to cool him down. Things are getting worse now as he's growing physically. Ive see nthe chat he writes on the school chat session, even to the point of offering out the headmistress.
This isnt me trying to cause a row over handicapped / mental issues, and to the parents that live and breath this I feel for you. However Im concerned at my daughter's learning and Im shocked at the effect it has on her studies.
My question is this, although mixing kids with this level of autism into a normal classroom may develop their social skills / learning better but I believe comes at the prices that all the other kids in the class suffer, do you agree ?
Why should his needs come at the cost of my child's schooling ? I realise the school gets extra funding to take this child but why is his develop seem more important than my daughters ? Is it because he's worth more to the school ? When I was at school these types of kids had their own classroom, with specially trained teachers.
Edited by sbk1972 on Saturday 6th March 12:59
Hi, thanks for the thread!
In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
sbk1972 said:
My daughter is still in primary school, year 5. In her class is a boy who has some form of autism where he has his own teacher assistant to help him.
Through the years the boy has becoming more and more rowdy. He is left to walk around the class, forms crushes on the girls to the point where my daughter had to go to the teacher complaining. Obviously he's physically growing and is now become a right pain physically and with his outbursts.
During home schooling lessons Ive witnessed it myself. Sitting next to my daughter working Ive seen the teacher tell him off ( he is still allowed to go into school ) for shouting, or writing rubbish on the google school chat. He's then reacted by kicking over his chair, throwing pens and now shouting things at the teacher. Ive heard the teaching assistant trying to cool him down. Things are getting worse now as he's growing physically. Ive see nthe chat he writes on the school chat session, even to the point of offering out the headmistress.
This isnt me trying to cause a row over handicapped / mental issues, and to the parents that live and breath this I feel for you. However Im concerned at my daughter's learning and Im shocked at the effect it has on her studies.
My question is this, although mixing kids with this level of autism into a normal classroom may develop their social skills / learning better but I believe comes at the prices that all the other kids in the class suffer, do you agree ?
I have to say in instances as you mention yes. Have you spoken to your daughters teacher ?Through the years the boy has becoming more and more rowdy. He is left to walk around the class, forms crushes on the girls to the point where my daughter had to go to the teacher complaining. Obviously he's physically growing and is now become a right pain physically and with his outbursts.
During home schooling lessons Ive witnessed it myself. Sitting next to my daughter working Ive seen the teacher tell him off ( he is still allowed to go into school ) for shouting, or writing rubbish on the google school chat. He's then reacted by kicking over his chair, throwing pens and now shouting things at the teacher. Ive heard the teaching assistant trying to cool him down. Things are getting worse now as he's growing physically. Ive see nthe chat he writes on the school chat session, even to the point of offering out the headmistress.
This isnt me trying to cause a row over handicapped / mental issues, and to the parents that live and breath this I feel for you. However Im concerned at my daughter's learning and Im shocked at the effect it has on her studies.
My question is this, although mixing kids with this level of autism into a normal classroom may develop their social skills / learning better but I believe comes at the prices that all the other kids in the class suffer, do you agree ?
eltax91 said:
Hi, thanks for the thread!
In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
I know it is very common now. We are are 3 form so not had any experience . He shouldn’t be repeating work unnecessarily In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
eltax91 said:
Hi, thanks for the thread!
In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
You need to clarify what he says as they often don’t convey messages truthfully In your opinion, do mixed year group classes work? Due to class numbers and restricted budgets, my boy has been in mixed classes in Y2 and now Y4.
He’s always been in the older group and I’ve always felt he’s repeating work for the younger kids and when he’s completed his work instead of being set more challenging work, he is often helping out one of the younger kids (so he says)
I have. My daughter's school is run mainly by women teachers, which is lovely and great, etc. However when I've mentioned this I get a very politically correct answer. She has one more year left to go then she's out of it. However, If I speak to the teacher to one side she agrees and wishes she never had him as he is such a disturbance.
My daughter was arranging a party for 3 friends for her birthday. This boy over heard and had a mental down that he wasnt invited. My daughter was called into the headmistress's room and told not to discuss her birthdays in front of this boy again. So she got told off because its easier to control the others, than confront the boy and his behaviour.
Seems the family of this boy gets special council funding so can choose any secondary school regardless of catchment or sibling. They get to review/choose a year before everyone else. Therefore Im trying to find out which school he will be going to next so that I can ensure my daughter doesnt go there.
My daughter was arranging a party for 3 friends for her birthday. This boy over heard and had a mental down that he wasnt invited. My daughter was called into the headmistress's room and told not to discuss her birthdays in front of this boy again. So she got told off because its easier to control the others, than confront the boy and his behaviour.
Seems the family of this boy gets special council funding so can choose any secondary school regardless of catchment or sibling. They get to review/choose a year before everyone else. Therefore Im trying to find out which school he will be going to next so that I can ensure my daughter doesnt go there.
sbk1972 said:
I have. My daughter's school is run mainly by women teachers, which is lovely and great, etc. However when I've mentioned this I get a very politically correct answer. She has one more year left to go then she's out of it. However, If I speak to the teacher to one side she agrees and wishes she never had him as he is such a disturbance.
My daughter was arranging a party for 3 friends for her birthday. This boy over heard and had a mental down that he wasnt invited. My daughter was called into the headmistress's room and told not to discuss her birthdays in front of this boy again. So she got told off because its easier to control the others, than confront the boy and his behaviour.
Seems the family of this boy gets special council funding so can choose any secondary school regardless of catchment or sibling. They get to review/choose a year before everyone else. Therefore Im trying to find out which school he will be going to next so that I can ensure my daughter doesnt go there.
The problem I find is because of their issues they are not expected to behave like the rest of children. I mentioned a boy who threatened to piss in my bin when I mentioned it to his mum she just defended her child My daughter was arranging a party for 3 friends for her birthday. This boy over heard and had a mental down that he wasnt invited. My daughter was called into the headmistress's room and told not to discuss her birthdays in front of this boy again. So she got told off because its easier to control the others, than confront the boy and his behaviour.
Seems the family of this boy gets special council funding so can choose any secondary school regardless of catchment or sibling. They get to review/choose a year before everyone else. Therefore Im trying to find out which school he will be going to next so that I can ensure my daughter doesnt go there.
As a teacher do you think this was a mental health issue, power trip, fantasy gone wrong, or something actually sexual she liked....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teache...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teache...
Do you ever pretend to lose your balance and accidentally knee some scroat in the back of the head as you’re passing in the classroom?
Who do you hate more? Parents who don’t give s
t, parents who think they know more than you about educating their child or parents who are far too confrontational when telling them that little Jocinda has flushed another kids head in the bogs again?
Who do you hate more? Parents who don’t give s
t, parents who think they know more than you about educating their child or parents who are far too confrontational when telling them that little Jocinda has flushed another kids head in the bogs again?valiant said:
Do you ever pretend to lose your balance and accidentally knee some scroat in the back of the head as you’re passing in the classroom?
Who do you hate more? Parents who don’t give st, parents who think they know more than you about educating their child or parents who are far too confrontational when telling them that little Jocinda has flushed another kids head in the bogs again?
The last one Who do you hate more? Parents who don’t give s
t, parents who think they know more than you about educating their child or parents who are far too confrontational when telling them that little Jocinda has flushed another kids head in the bogs again?Where do you stand on kids reporting bad behaviour, my lad started big school this year after 7 years at the same primary school. One of his frustrations whoever got to the teacher/TA first was believed, he had a couple of incidents which upset him where the BS given by the other party flipped the who thing around (and they had history of previous stty behaviour)
With us it got to the point where I had a meeting with the head and explained if x does a similar thing again I’ve told my lad it’s gloves off time and I’ll deal with the consequences - one of the problems was my boy does karate but was told if the Sensei found out about him using it at school he could get chucked out of the club.
Having been through bullying myself at this age it really winds me up.
tty behaviour)With us it got to the point where I had a meeting with the head and explained if x does a similar thing again I’ve told my lad it’s gloves off time and I’ll deal with the consequences - one of the problems was my boy does karate but was told if the Sensei found out about him using it at school he could get chucked out of the club.
Having been through bullying myself at this age it really winds me up.
r159 said:
Where do you stand on kids reporting bad behaviour, my lad started big school this year after 7 years at the same primary school. One of his frustrations whoever got to the teacher/TA first was believed, he had a couple of incidents which upset him where the BS given by the other party flipped the who thing around (and they had history of previous stty behaviour)
With us it got to the point where I had a meeting with the head and explained if x does a similar thing again I’ve told my lad it’s gloves off time and I’ll deal with the consequences - one of the problems was my boy does karate but was told if the Sensei found out about him using it at school he could get chucked out of the club.
Having been through bullying myself at this age it really winds me up.
I would always advise the head teacher to be the port of calltty behaviour)With us it got to the point where I had a meeting with the head and explained if x does a similar thing again I’ve told my lad it’s gloves off time and I’ll deal with the consequences - one of the problems was my boy does karate but was told if the Sensei found out about him using it at school he could get chucked out of the club.
Having been through bullying myself at this age it really winds me up.
HTP99 said:
How do you deal with both the parents and child where the kid is an absolute st but the parents just will not have a bad word said against them and cannot see it?
Exactly the same as I do all the other children punishment following the correct procedure. If they or the parents don’t like it tough luckt but the parents just will not have a bad word said against them and cannot see it?I have the utmost respect for your profession, the utmost.
I am a Governor at my children's primary school (In my 4th year now) and volunteered there for 2 years whilst both were in their Foundation year. I helped support those struggling with reading progression and found it hugely rewarding.
That said I did half a day a week and didn't have to. I saw how immensely challenging those 2/3/4 children per class were and how much of an impact they had.
I loved every minute of what I did, but could not do it as my profession.
As a Governor I see a lot of behind the scenes stuff and it cemented my firmly held view, that teachers are all ruddy saints and should be paid 2 or 3 times what they actually are.
Legends, the ruddy lot of them.
I am a Governor at my children's primary school (In my 4th year now) and volunteered there for 2 years whilst both were in their Foundation year. I helped support those struggling with reading progression and found it hugely rewarding.
That said I did half a day a week and didn't have to. I saw how immensely challenging those 2/3/4 children per class were and how much of an impact they had.
I loved every minute of what I did, but could not do it as my profession.
As a Governor I see a lot of behind the scenes stuff and it cemented my firmly held view, that teachers are all ruddy saints and should be paid 2 or 3 times what they actually are.
Legends, the ruddy lot of them.
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