Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

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Skyedriver

17,825 posts

282 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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The last few comments highlight the "problem"
You need to go around all 5 stores (or 6 if you include the Coop) and select the lowest price item from each store. Of course you/I haven't got time to do that (or the patience).

Re Aldi, some of the stuff Aldi sells is absolutely superb, you just have to get to know what is what. Sometimes the choice of item is less than than some of the larger supermarkets though.

yellowjack

17,075 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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captain_cynic said:
This is what we call "cherry picking" or "lying by statistics".

Everyone knows that Sainsbos is more expensive hence the original conversation centred around ASDA and Morrisons. It's like saying it's cheaper than M&S... well duh, but M&S aren't trying to be cheap. I've pretty much dropped Sainsburys into the same category (I.E. a down market Waitrose).

At Morrisons that bottle of Pepsi Max is £1.75, but you can get 2 for £3 bringing the per unit cost down to £1.50. You don't need a card to access that pricing, it's available to everyone. The same bottle at ASDA is £1.50 at normal pricing but it's on offer for £1.25 at the moment.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/sugar-free-diet...
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/pepsi-max...

Your spreadable cheese (council thread is that way) is only £1 at ASDA but £1.60 at Morrisons.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/cheese-spreads/...
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/seriously...

However if I'm going to Morrisons, I'll generally get something decent out of their cheesemonger's selection (I'm partial to the Wyke Island Cheddar). That won't be as cheap as the mass produced cheese.

The big savings at Morrisons and ASDA tend to be in the twofer and BOGOF products (I.E. at ASDA you can get 2 x 650g Chicken breasts for £7) but my point is, this pricing is available to everyone without having to sign up for anything.

I do most of my shopping at ASDA as for my basket, it's continually the cheapest supermarket except for perhaps ALDI/LIDL (who I've nothing against, but for some reason can never seem to find some of the things I'm after in store). Somewhere like Morrisons I'll visit less frequently but usually for specific products that only they offer, if I want to pay above the odds I'll visit Waitrose or M&S (the M&S single source coffee has to be the best of the supermarket coffees IMHO)
Rebuttal time!

Firstly I don't need ANY cheese advice from you, thanks. I'm partial to a nice nutty Red Leicester, and to a beautifully crumbly Caerphilly. And to a nice cave aged Cheddar bought from the people who actually make it IN Cheddar. But I do find that none of these cheeses spreads particularly well on toast. Unless, of course, toast for breakfast is "council". The other slice usually gets spread with the "Duchess's favourite" Lime Marmalade from Chatsworth. Although I'm labouring under no pretense that the Duchess of Devonshire has any hand in the process of making of "her" lime jam herself.

As for any "shopping around" advice? I'm half a mile from a Tesco Extra. So I walk there, like any sane individual with functioning legs would. Asda, Sainsburys and M&S exist 2 miles up the road, Waitrose and M&S 4 miles the other way. If I want a Morrisons it's a good 10 miles to travel. Bear in mind that we're talking about Bournemouth traffic (6th most congestion town in the UK according to recent headlines) and you'll understand why I won't get the car out for short local trips. Especially as I don't work (nor do I claim benefits) so I have time to walk places. The stroll through Kings Park to get to local shops/bakeries/delis in Boscombe and/or Southbourne is particularly nice. But the walks along the main roads to the larger supermarkets are not nice with the fumes generated but wheezy fat knackers who can'/won't walk even a mile to a shop. So I satisfy myself with making a mental note as to which products I should avoid at Tesco, and shop elsewhere for them. Usually 12 miles distant in a town with the (in my opinion) best (but overpriced) bakery in the area. Tesco's cold meat offering is particularly poor, for instance, and they no longer sell my preferred brand/type of instant coffee (yeah, yeah, "council", blah, blah).

The coffee is a great example too. It's Kenco Millicano, and that stuff is constantly "on offer" somewhere or other. Sometimes it's cheap in Sainsburys, other times in Coop, and sometimes it's vastly cheaper in Waitrose. I buy more than I need whenever I find it on sale at the reduced price or on a multi-buy offer. It's coffee. It's in a sealed can. It keeps. I can't recall the last time I bought a can at "full price" anywhere. I now regard the reduced price as the realistic RRP, and anything more than that as "marking up to discount later". I couldn't bring myself to shop in the local Asda. Mainly because it has an in-store McDonalds franchise, and definitely attracts people I'd rather not shop alongside.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, too, why would I care if other stores' prices are "available to everyone without having to sign up to anything"? I already had a Clubcard before these lower prices became Clubcard dependent. I'm already signed up. And the little Clubcard is on the ring with my front door key. I'd literally have to go out and leave my house unlocked to forget the card, and on the rare occasions when I haven't taken a house key because the house has someone in it, I find I "pat myself down" before going into the store to check for the Clubcard and a method of payment. And if I don't have the Clubcard I avoid buying discounted products out of principle. They're seldom on what I'd call "everyday essential" items anyway, and it's literally a mile to walk over again later in the week if I really need something on offer.

as for those Twofor and BOGOF offers? Unless they can a) be frozen, and b) there's room in my freezy, then they are of no use to me. In fact I believe that such offers are unethical as the promote wasteful purchases. There are only two of us at home now. And with a major supermarket only a mile round trip to walk, I can afford to walk over many times in a week to ensure I'm eating "stuff" as fresh as possible.

Horses for courses, clearly. But I would not go back to doing one big weekly shop now. We get a Sainsburys online delivery about once a fortnight, do several "top-up shops" in Tesco, and on average every other week we'll take a weekend trip to one of three preferred local bakeries and pop in to a Waitrose or M&S at the same time.

I really don't need any help or advice as to how I do my shopping. I know full well I pay "over the odds" sometimes on some products. But that usually gets written off against the cost of getting the car out and the time I'd spend in traffic hunting for the cheaper prices. The "price of convenience" you could say. And my examples were not "cherry-picked". They were literally the only items on my receipt this morning which weren't either "standard everywhere" (newspapers, for example), or "much of a muchness everywhere" (a loaf of bread for example).

As for Aldi and Lidl? Sorry, but I only rarely go in those shops, and then only to peruse the "Middle Aisle Of Dreams". I'm not all that keen on being treated like a sheep, penned into a queue like I'm off to be slaughtered or dipped. Even more especially when they run their own car parks and you are forced to go to a till to "validate your parking". At least in every "British" supermarket I know of you are able to walk right out of the door unobstructed if you "only went in for a look" or "they didn't have the product I went in for".

dandarez

13,276 posts

283 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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yellowjack said:
captain_cynic said:
This is what we call "cherry picking" or "lying by statistics".

Everyone knows that Sainsbos is more expensive hence the original conversation centred around ASDA and Morrisons. It's like saying it's cheaper than M&S... well duh, but M&S aren't trying to be cheap. I've pretty much dropped Sainsburys into the same category (I.E. a down market Waitrose).

At Morrisons that bottle of Pepsi Max is £1.75, but you can get 2 for £3 bringing the per unit cost down to £1.50. You don't need a card to access that pricing, it's available to everyone. The same bottle at ASDA is £1.50 at normal pricing but it's on offer for £1.25 at the moment.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/sugar-free-diet...
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/pepsi-max...

Your spreadable cheese (council thread is that way) is only £1 at ASDA but £1.60 at Morrisons.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/cheese-spreads/...
https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/seriously...

However if I'm going to Morrisons, I'll generally get something decent out of their cheesemonger's selection (I'm partial to the Wyke Island Cheddar). That won't be as cheap as the mass produced cheese.

The big savings at Morrisons and ASDA tend to be in the twofer and BOGOF products (I.E. at ASDA you can get 2 x 650g Chicken breasts for £7) but my point is, this pricing is available to everyone without having to sign up for anything.

I do most of my shopping at ASDA as for my basket, it's continually the cheapest supermarket except for perhaps ALDI/LIDL (who I've nothing against, but for some reason can never seem to find some of the things I'm after in store). Somewhere like Morrisons I'll visit less frequently but usually for specific products that only they offer, if I want to pay above the odds I'll visit Waitrose or M&S (the M&S single source coffee has to be the best of the supermarket coffees IMHO)
Rebuttal time!

Firstly I don't need ANY cheese advice from you, thanks. I'm partial to a nice nutty Red Leicester, and to a beautifully crumbly Caerphilly. And to a nice cave aged Cheddar bought from the people who actually make it IN Cheddar. But I do find that none of these cheeses spreads particularly well on toast. Unless, of course, toast for breakfast is "council". The other slice usually gets spread with the "Duchess's favourite" Lime Marmalade from Chatsworth. Although I'm labouring under no pretense that the Duchess of Devonshire has any hand in the process of making of "her" lime jam herself.

As for any "shopping around" advice? I'm half a mile from a Tesco Extra. So I walk there, like any sane individual with functioning legs would. Asda, Sainsburys and M&S exist 2 miles up the road, Waitrose and M&S 4 miles the other way. If I want a Morrisons it's a good 10 miles to travel. Bear in mind that we're talking about Bournemouth traffic (6th most congestion town in the UK according to recent headlines) and you'll understand why I won't get the car out for short local trips. Especially as I don't work (nor do I claim benefits) so I have time to walk places. The stroll through Kings Park to get to local shops/bakeries/delis in Boscombe and/or Southbourne is particularly nice. But the walks along the main roads to the larger supermarkets are not nice with the fumes generated but wheezy fat knackers who can'/won't walk even a mile to a shop. So I satisfy myself with making a mental note as to which products I should avoid at Tesco, and shop elsewhere for them. Usually 12 miles distant in a town with the (in my opinion) best (but overpriced) bakery in the area. Tesco's cold meat offering is particularly poor, for instance, and they no longer sell my preferred brand/type of instant coffee (yeah, yeah, "council", blah, blah).

The coffee is a great example too. It's Kenco Millicano, and that stuff is constantly "on offer" somewhere or other. Sometimes it's cheap in Sainsburys, other times in Coop, and sometimes it's vastly cheaper in Waitrose. I buy more than I need whenever I find it on sale at the reduced price or on a multi-buy offer. It's coffee. It's in a sealed can. It keeps. I can't recall the last time I bought a can at "full price" anywhere. I now regard the reduced price as the realistic RRP, and anything more than that as "marking up to discount later". I couldn't bring myself to shop in the local Asda. Mainly because it has an in-store McDonalds franchise, and definitely attracts people I'd rather not shop alongside.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, too, why would I care if other stores' prices are "available to everyone without having to sign up to anything"? I already had a Clubcard before these lower prices became Clubcard dependent. I'm already signed up. And the little Clubcard is on the ring with my front door key. I'd literally have to go out and leave my house unlocked to forget the card, and on the rare occasions when I haven't taken a house key because the house has someone in it, I find I "pat myself down" before going into the store to check for the Clubcard and a method of payment. And if I don't have the Clubcard I avoid buying discounted products out of principle. They're seldom on what I'd call "everyday essential" items anyway, and it's literally a mile to walk over again later in the week if I really need something on offer.

as for those Twofor and BOGOF offers? Unless they can a) be frozen, and b) there's room in my freezy, then they are of no use to me. In fact I believe that such offers are unethical as the promote wasteful purchases. There are only two of us at home now. And with a major supermarket only a mile round trip to walk, I can afford to walk over many times in a week to ensure I'm eating "stuff" as fresh as possible.

Horses for courses, clearly. But I would not go back to doing one big weekly shop now. We get a Sainsburys online delivery about once a fortnight, do several "top-up shops" in Tesco, and on average every other week we'll take a weekend trip to one of three preferred local bakeries and pop in to a Waitrose or M&S at the same time.

I really don't need any help or advice as to how I do my shopping. I know full well I pay "over the odds" sometimes on some products. But that usually gets written off against the cost of getting the car out and the time I'd spend in traffic hunting for the cheaper prices. The "price of convenience" you could say. And my examples were not "cherry-picked". They were literally the only items on my receipt this morning which weren't either "standard everywhere" (newspapers, for example), or "much of a muchness everywhere" (a loaf of bread for example).

As for Aldi and Lidl? Sorry, but I only rarely go in those shops, and then only to peruse the "Middle Aisle Of Dreams". I'm not all that keen on being treated like a sheep, penned into a queue like I'm off to be slaughtered or dipped. Even more especially when they run their own car parks and you are forced to go to a till to "validate your parking". At least in every "British" supermarket I know of you are able to walk right out of the door unobstructed if you "only went in for a look" or "they didn't have the product I went in for".
All above (and bold above) is where this falls down. Our Lidl used to be like that. And it attracted those who we'd rather not shop with. Complete difference now, as we've had a huge Lidl built and it's the complete opposite, free car parking and leccy car charging too if needed (not by us). Offers can be great. But we are blessed here (if you can call it that) by having loads of supermarkets (no Tesco, who cares) all within shouting distance, that's Waitrose, Sainsbury's, Co-op, Morri's, Aldi, Asda and all have free car parking (mostly 3 hrs which is ample for anyone surely?).

In fact, round here car park charges are something alien! LOL
I calculated it can save us a grand a year if comparing other towns and cities. A grand!!
Who's worrying about the price of Pepsi Max - more to the point why anyone drinks 'Coke' of any kind is beyond me. I drank enough in the 60s when it was 'the real thing' and not full of artificial crap like almost every 'fizzy' drink today. Strange isn't it, we downed tons of the stuff back then but virtually nobody was fat, let alone obese. Full of sugar, even Corona (not the virus) delivered to your door by the crateload weekly (what lazy bds we were back then). Today, everything is 'sugar free' and 'fat free' (if you're daft enough to buy it) and everyone is fat. You couldn't make it up.

Not noticed any bogof's for yonks, is that still a thing? Therefore, because we have the time and inclination we can go to all and get the best offers - and if you have the time and are prepared to look, savings can be substantial. I'm slightly incorrect about no Tesco, there is an 'Express' with an Esso petrol station but it's usual pet station rip off prices and caters only for those in a rush.

So no need here for Tesco clubcard, but we do have Nectar for Sainsbury's and Lidl app which if used wisely can give good savings.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I don't like loyalty cards and never sign up for them. If I'm going to the supermarket and don't have her Clubcard I won't go to Tesco. On the odd occasion I do go to Tesco without her Clubcard I won't pick up any of the items on offer if I'm paying full price.

There must be a balance between enticing Clubcard holders to pick up promotional items and putting off normal customers.

It's the whisky offers that get me. Some of the promotional prices are very good.

Turtle Shed

1,538 posts

26 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Tyre Smoke said:
I had some rump steak from Lidl last week. It was absolutely superb.
I had Aldi's Ribeye offering today, it was also excellent.

FiF

44,050 posts

251 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Skyedriver said:
The last few comments highlight the "problem"
You need to go around all 5 stores (or 6 if you include the Coop) and select the lowest price item from each store. Of course you/I haven't got time to do that (or the patience).

Re Aldi, some of the stuff Aldi sells is absolutely superb, you just have to get to know what is what. Sometimes the choice of item is less than than some of the larger supermarkets though.
It's more difficult now the MySupermarket app closed down some years back. When it was working you could search on a few items you knew were wanted and make an informed decision where to go.

With the Aldi / Lidl offerings there are indeed some offerings that are first class, including some relatively humble products, eg Lidl custard surpasses the other supermarket top lines, equally there are some lines that aren't worth it, cheap yes, but there's a reason for that.

Cold

15,237 posts

90 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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captain_cynic said:
Everyone knows that Sainsbos is more expensive hence the original conversation centred around ASDA and Morrisons. It's like saying it's cheaper than M&S... well duh, but M&S aren't trying to be cheap. I've pretty much dropped Sainsburys into the same category (I.E. a down market Waitrose).

yellowjack

17,075 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Cold said:
captain_cynic said:
Everyone knows that Sainsbos is more expensive hence the original conversation centred around ASDA and Morrisons. It's like saying it's cheaper than M&S... well duh, but M&S aren't trying to be cheap. I've pretty much dropped Sainsburys into the same category (I.E. a down market Waitrose).


The spinner of plates

17,688 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Condi said:
Alex_225 said:
I suspect it's a great little earner for them. I mean for those people who forget their card, don't have it or it doesn't scan but they're stood at the till with a handful of items, they'll just pay the extra. Some people will of course just turn around and leave but many will just save the hassle and pay the excess amount on items.

Wonder how much they make from tourists as well who wouldn't have a card.
I dare say 80% of their regular customers don't have a Clubcard...
I reckon about 80% of their customers actually do smile

“20 million households signed up to Clubcard, with 6.6 million regularly using the app.
With shoppers needing to use Clubcard to access many of its promotions, penetration in large stores has increased from 67% to 80%, and across all stores it has gone from 57% to 70%”

The above is about 6 months old.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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lyricalgangster said:
The biggest issue with this system, isn't the cheaper prices using clubcard in exchange for your data, oh no.

It's the over inflated prices when not on clubcard offer, and the constant changing of prices to make it feel like a 'bargain'.

Boils my urine when an item has been x price forever, then suddenly is x + 50% for no reason, then to knock it back to

x + 30% trying to make it appear a bargain.
mad
Oh dear.

Saleen836

11,104 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I have a clubcard as it works for me with what I put in my trolley plus my points get converted to airmiles (1 = 2.5 airmiles) I have been sent leaflets asking if I want to sign up to clubcard plus but it will not benefit me so no point, guessing a ew of the big shoppers here are signed up for it and will benefit?

DannyScene

6,619 posts

155 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Haven't they been advertising this for months all over TV etc

How is this news to people???


DodgyGeezer

Original Poster:

40,389 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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DannyScene said:
Haven't they been advertising this for months all over TV etc

How is this news to people???
don't watch adverts and haven't been to a Tesco for about 9 years...

Turtle Shed

1,538 posts

26 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Meanwhile, over on Mumsnet, the legendary reliability of Honda's vTec technology is being discussed along with a heated debate on whether the Lancia Delta HF Integrale is an ideal car for the school run.

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

34 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
I've found out today that there is, apparently, quite a furor brewing as Tesco are now pricing good differently depending on whether you use your clubcard or not. I guess my initial reaction was WTF!?!?? (cue Daily Mail outrage followed by compoface) but to be honest I'm now thinking well why not? It's a way of trying to get everyone to sign-up and showing a definite benefit for doing so.

Any naysayers to argue why this is a bad thing?
I'm have had this discussion elsewhere but it is discriminatory to say the least to be 'taxed' just for not having a Clubcard. It's a rain why I avoid Tesco wherever possible.

I think however that most of the items that are priced differently will possibly be deemed as 'non-essential' items like (dare I say it) hot drinks, biscuits and crisps of particular brands.

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

34 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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The Mad Monk said:
lyricalgangster said:
The biggest issue with this system, isn't the cheaper prices using clubcard in exchange for your data, oh no.

It's the over inflated prices when not on clubcard offer, and the constant changing of prices to make it feel like a 'bargain'.

Boils my urine when an item has been x price forever, then suddenly is x + 50% for no reason, then to knock it back to

x + 30% trying to make it appear a bargain.
mad
Oh dear.
This sounds like Asda's 'roll back' gimmick wheeled out to the media every other week, accompanied by the manically ecstatic marketing, advertising with reassuring voiceover, bright colours, cheerily utopic background music, footage of happy staff and customers and impressive computer-assisted images of prices quite literally 'rolling back', because Asda care about us and want to help us by bringing the prices back down to how they were after unexpectedly raising those same prices for a period of time.

Wacky Racer

38,143 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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NuckyThompson said:
Makes me even less likely to shop there now, with the cost of living rises Aldi and Lidl make more sense as they’re far cheaper.

Wouldn’t want to do a full shop at tesco to get to the till and realise I’ve forgot the clubcard.
Keep it in your wallet. Not rocket science. smile

The spinner of plates

17,688 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Turtle Shed said:
Meanwhile, over on Mumsnet, the legendary reliability of Honda's vTec technology is being discussed along with a heated debate on whether the Lancia Delta HF Integrale is an ideal car for the school run.
laugh genuine lol

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

35 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Wacky Racer said:
Keep it in your wallet. Not rocket science. smile
I can't remember the last time I took my wallet, I just use contactless on my phone!

mike80

2,248 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Same, got the clubcard on my phone as well.