Being disrespectful
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For some reason an Old Grey Whistle Test session from the 1970s, with a Japanese band I had never heard of, popped up on my YouTube feed. Curious I clicked on it.
As you can see, it looks like some wit at the BBC changed the name to “Old Gley Whistle Test”. I remember casual racism being a thing in the 70s but still a bit taken back, especially as the OGWT was a show for popular music.
Or maybe there is an innocent explanation. Although I’m struggling to come up with one.
Anyone with similar examples?
As you can see, it looks like some wit at the BBC changed the name to “Old Gley Whistle Test”. I remember casual racism being a thing in the 70s but still a bit taken back, especially as the OGWT was a show for popular music.
Or maybe there is an innocent explanation. Although I’m struggling to come up with one.
Anyone with similar examples?
Edited by Esceptico on Wednesday 11th May 06:14
The Sadistic Mika Band. Video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lnwgeh2Luc
If you wait 5 mins - the lead singer makes an appearance.
She seems to know some English - so I'm not sure if she would have clocked the "joke"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lnwgeh2Luc
If you wait 5 mins - the lead singer makes an appearance.
She seems to know some English - so I'm not sure if she would have clocked the "joke"
Esceptico said:
BBC changed the name to “Old Gley Whistle Test”. I remember casual racism being a thing in the 70s but still a bit taken back, especially as the OGWT was a show for popular music.
Or maybe there is an innocent explanation. Although I’m struggling to come up with one.
Anyone with similar examples?
There's something about the Japanese language and the letter 'L'. It doesn't appear in their alphabet and so it's foreign to them, and often have issues pronouncing it. I wouldn't assume this is racism at all, in fact, I'd imagine it's the bands doing themselves. Or maybe there is an innocent explanation. Although I’m struggling to come up with one.
Anyone with similar examples?
I'm a casual fan of a modern Japanese rock band called 'One OK Rock'. I assumed the rock part was to do with the music, but actually it's to represent 'One O'Clock' in the morning, which was the time they used to practice.
Pebbles167 said:
There's something about the Japanese language and the letter 'L'. It doesn't appear in their alphabet and so it's foreign to them, and often have issues pronouncing it. I wouldn't assume this is racism at all, in fact, I'd imagine it's the bands doing themselves.
I'm a casual fan of a modern Japanese rock band called 'One OK Rock'. I assumed the rock part was to do with the music, but actually it's to represent 'One O'Clock' in the morning, which was the time they used to practice.
Isn't it R that Japanese lacks? Maybe it's both. Happens both ways though. In the Chinese Ip Man movie with Tyson, he apparently says "Wifi is unbreakable" instead of " Only speed is unbreakable", such is their languages sensitivity to inflection.I'm a casual fan of a modern Japanese rock band called 'One OK Rock'. I assumed the rock part was to do with the music, but actually it's to represent 'One O'Clock' in the morning, which was the time they used to practice.
Pebbles167 said:
There's something about the Japanese language and the letter 'L'. It doesn't appear in their alphabet and so it's foreign to them, and often have issues pronouncing it. I wouldn't assume this is racism at all, in fact, I'd imagine it's the bands doing themselves.
I'm a casual fan of a modern Japanese rock band called 'One OK Rock'. I assumed the rock part was to do with the music, but actually it's to represent 'One O'Clock' in the morning, which was the time they used to practice.
There is even a Wikipedia page on it because its a real thing. It was also one of the arguments used to justify a search warrant on the Unabomber's hut - the judge was in Japan in the war and they use passwords that the Japanese couldn't say to make sure it was an ally trying to get in. I'm a casual fan of a modern Japanese rock band called 'One OK Rock'. I assumed the rock part was to do with the music, but actually it's to represent 'One O'Clock' in the morning, which was the time they used to practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_of_Englis...
English speakers can also have the same thing in other languages. I'm learning Persian where they only have light Ls, as opposed to English where we have both dark and light - I can't tell the difference between the two and was surprised when my teacher explained that I make a different L sound when I say light and ball. Apparently Iranians would instantly pick up on it, like we do with Japanese people mixing Ls and Rs.
Evoluzione said:
On the theme of bands on TV, when Dexys Midnight Runners performed 'Jackie Wilson said' on TOTP The backdrop was a picture of Jocky Wilson the darts player 
I've read / heard an interview with Kevin Rowland where he claimed that he'd got the stage people to do that, for a laugh, to see if anyone noticed. Perhaps on one of the "Top of the Pops 19xx" programmes on BBC4.droopsnoot said:
Evoluzione said:
On the theme of bands on TV, when Dexys Midnight Runners performed 'Jackie Wilson said' on TOTP The backdrop was a picture of Jocky Wilson the darts player
I've read / heard an interview with Kevin Rowland where he claimed that he'd got the stage people to do that, for a laugh, to see if anyone noticed. Perhaps on one of the "Top of the Pops 19xx" programmes on BBC4.I remember an ad for Phillips TVs back in the day.
Guy walks in to a shop looking for new TV. Salesman shows him a Phillips he's impressed but then reads the name and says Phillips that doesn't sound Japanese.
Salesman says common mistake sir, it's pronounced PhiRRips.
Guy says Of course silly me. I'll take it.
Guy walks in to a shop looking for new TV. Salesman shows him a Phillips he's impressed but then reads the name and says Phillips that doesn't sound Japanese.
Salesman says common mistake sir, it's pronounced PhiRRips.
Guy says Of course silly me. I'll take it.
bucksmanuk said:
Road2Ruin said:
There was a comedy show in the 70s called 'I beg your pardon' set in a language school. Couldn't make it now, but it was hilarious then.
I thought it was "Mind Your Language" with the gorgeous Françoise Pascal that will teach me for not looking it up.
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