Racism Hypocrisy
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MrScroggs said:
Lenny Bruce had the right idea. He said everyone should use the N word, all the time. Make it a part of normal everyday vocabulary and it loses it's power to hurt anybody. It's just a word.
In an ideal world, perhaps: but we don't live in an ideal world, & all the while it's used as an aggressive slur then, no, everyone shouldn't - because, to someone who's suffered abuse, it isn't just a word.From an article twenty years ago:
Naive Bush slights Pakistanis with a short-cut
Matthew Engel in Washington
Wed 9 Jan 2002 02.37 GMT
President George Bush's fractured command of international nuance landed him in yet more trouble yesterday as Pakistanis protested over his casual use of the abbreviation "
s", which is widely regarded as an offensive epithet.
He was trying at the time to defuse tensions, saying: "We are working hard to convince both the Indians and thes that there's a way to deal with their problems without going to war." However, he was not quite working hard enough.
Naive Bush slights Pakistanis with a short-cut
Matthew Engel in Washington
Wed 9 Jan 2002 02.37 GMT
President George Bush's fractured command of international nuance landed him in yet more trouble yesterday as Pakistanis protested over his casual use of the abbreviation "
s", which is widely regarded as an offensive epithet.He was trying at the time to defuse tensions, saying: "We are working hard to convince both the Indians and the
s that there's a way to deal with their problems without going to war." However, he was not quite working hard enough.LF5335 said:
This thread started off at the bottom of the barrel and will now do it’s best to scrape even further, as all the “I’m not a racist, but …” appear on here to have a rant about how good the 1970s were and how people today are just too soft.
In 1970 I knew a Persian called Percy.(Am I doing this right?)
Caddyshack said:
To be fair, we have the mobo awards but if we had a white music only awards night it would end in riots.
Taking this forward - There's a radio programme called "Woman's Hour" and places of entertsinment, swimming pools etc have "Ladies Night".Can you imagine the uproar if there was Man's Hour or a Blokes Only night......
Skyedriver said:
Caddyshack said:
To be fair, we have the mobo awards but if we had a white music only awards night it would end in riots.
Taking this forward - There's a radio programme called "Woman's Hour" and places of entertsinment, swimming pools etc have "Ladies Night".Can you imagine the uproar if there was Man's Hour or a Blokes Only night......
Skyedriver said:
Caddyshack said:
To be fair, we have the mobo awards but if we had a white music only awards night it would end in riots.
Taking this forward - There's a radio programme called "Woman's Hour" and places of entertsinment, swimming pools etc have "Ladies Night".Can you imagine the uproar if there was Man's Hour or a Blokes Only night......
I am of Indian descent.
The "P" word is pretty common, in fact I would say very, very common in India.
Its also very common within people from Pakistan, IME.
What ruined it was in the 60s and 70s was d*ck heads who started to use it as an insult.
Its very, very common for people from the "stans" to drop the stan. And replace with "i".
No one says its a problem to call someone from Afghanistan an Afghani.
We dont call it the A word.
We dont have an issue with Uzbeki. There is no "U" word. People from Uzbekistan are not up in arms about it.
Because it wasnt used as an insult. But here we are.
FWIW Indian guys call each other "yaar" which basically means mate, it was never an insult but its basically the Indian version of what the N word is now to young black Americans - which is a term thats generally used between friends.
The "P" word is pretty common, in fact I would say very, very common in India.
Its also very common within people from Pakistan, IME.
What ruined it was in the 60s and 70s was d*ck heads who started to use it as an insult.
Its very, very common for people from the "stans" to drop the stan. And replace with "i".
No one says its a problem to call someone from Afghanistan an Afghani.
We dont call it the A word.
We dont have an issue with Uzbeki. There is no "U" word. People from Uzbekistan are not up in arms about it.
Because it wasnt used as an insult. But here we are.
FWIW Indian guys call each other "yaar" which basically means mate, it was never an insult but its basically the Indian version of what the N word is now to young black Americans - which is a term thats generally used between friends.
Glassman said:
greygoose said:
Are you ten years old? Grow up and just stop being a racist.
You're getting your Alans in a bit of a twist. You do ask a good question tbf. If I was black, would I still be a racist starting this thread with a question like that?Same question if I was Pakistani.
LF5335 said:
It’s exactly the sort of question a 10 year old would ask. Adults should be more aware of the world as they gain experience. The fact you’ve chosen this topic to discuss shows what sort of experience you’ve gained.
Perhaps the burden lies with you. I'm mixed race/heritage; half caste, whatever the buzz phrase is these days (I don't care).
One of my grandfathers was Scottish (descendant of the Clan Kerr) and the other was from North India; I have a Bajan stepfather and an Indian stepmother (parents parted ways when I was young).
I have a Polish girlfriend.
My friends and associates are African, Brazilian, Greek, Italian, Jamaican, Turkish, Indian, Polish, Portuguese, Scottish, Welsh... you name it.
You say experience?
Okay.
LF5335 said:
This thread started off at the bottom of the barrel and will now do it’s best to scrape even further, as all the “I’m not a racist, but …” appear on here to have a rant about how good the 1970s were and how people today are just too soft.
Bonus points awarded when the first inbred starts using the terms "snowflake" and "woke" to describe people not as stupid as him.gotoPzero said:
I am of Indian descent.
The "P" word is pretty common, in fact I would say very, very common in India.
Its also very common within people from Pakistan, IME.
What ruined it was in the 60s and 70s was d*ck heads who started to use it as an insult.
Its very, very common for people from the "stans" to drop the stan. And replace with "i".
No one says its a problem to call someone from Afghanistan an Afghani.
We dont call it the A word.
We dont have an issue with Uzbeki. There is no "U" word. People from Uzbekistan are not up in arms about it.
Because it wasnt used as an insult. But here we are.
FWIW Indian guys call each other "yaar" which basically means mate, it was never an insult but its basically the Indian version of what the N word is now to young black Americans - which is a term thats generally used between friends.
Weird my brother's wife is Indian and hates the word, as do all her family. It doesn't really help that even in these modern times she has still been called it,(Yes the Irony isn't lost on her) this innocuous word according to PH, quite a few times , I think the most recent was 6 months ago in a park.The "P" word is pretty common, in fact I would say very, very common in India.
Its also very common within people from Pakistan, IME.
What ruined it was in the 60s and 70s was d*ck heads who started to use it as an insult.
Its very, very common for people from the "stans" to drop the stan. And replace with "i".
No one says its a problem to call someone from Afghanistan an Afghani.
We dont call it the A word.
We dont have an issue with Uzbeki. There is no "U" word. People from Uzbekistan are not up in arms about it.
Because it wasnt used as an insult. But here we are.
FWIW Indian guys call each other "yaar" which basically means mate, it was never an insult but its basically the Indian version of what the N word is now to young black Americans - which is a term thats generally used between friends.
I guess the majority on here haven't faced daily insults to understand that a term might destroy the person , but they still smile, but inside broken up. I think that is why some, not everyone, may try to use it as a way to take it's power away.
But like most things in life, complex things can't really be distilled into one sentence answers.
Edited by Raccaccoonie on Thursday 23 March 02:11
Harry Flashman said:
LF5335 said:
This thread started off at the bottom of the barrel and will now do it’s best to scrape even further, as all the “I’m not a racist, but …” appear on here to have a rant about how good the 1970s were and how people today are just too soft.
Bonus points awarded when the first inbred starts using the terms "snowflake" and "woke" to describe people not as stupid as him.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff