You're... years old and you've only just realised...
Discussion
DickyC said:
In an interview towards the end of his life, John Betjeman said he wished he'd had more sex. Recently I was diagnosed with angina and sent away with a bag full of drugs. The leaflet for one of the drugs informs me I will be unable to use drugs for erectile dysfunction.
I wish I'd had more sex.
Stop reading leaflets, Dicky, there's nothing enlightening in the Watchtower etc - life's for quality living. Don't understand the desire of some to live forever forgoing quality of life. I wish I'd had more sex.
A relative went out with a bang in the moments after his last "jump" - not the worst ending to the final chapter. ( in his mid 70's). She's still alive ( 22 years on), but the marbles ... dementia isn't life.
(I'm still hoping to be shot in the back of the head by a jealous 26 year old husband, in flagrante)
paua said:
Stop reading leaflets, Dicky, there's nothing enlightening in the Watchtower etc - life's for quality living. Don't understand the desire of some to live forever forgoing quality of life.
A relative went out with a bang in the moments after his last "jump" - not the worst ending to the final chapter. ( in his mid 70's). She's still alive ( 22 years on), but the marbles ... dementia isn't life.
(I'm still hoping to be shot in the back of the head by a jealous 26 year old husband, in flagrante)
Thanks, paua. Just reading the word Watchtower and I have Hendrix for company in my head for the foreseeable future. This is a good thing.A relative went out with a bang in the moments after his last "jump" - not the worst ending to the final chapter. ( in his mid 70's). She's still alive ( 22 years on), but the marbles ... dementia isn't life.
(I'm still hoping to be shot in the back of the head by a jealous 26 year old husband, in flagrante)
There must be some way outta here...
Lost Soul said:
It still makes me chuckle at 56 that people don't know what the hole in a ring pull on a can of soft drink is for - holding a straw
Or what the hole in a pan handle is for - putting the handle of your wooden spoon through for somewhere to store it
Or the pans with two handles either side, some people still don't know you can balance the lid on that so you don't have to keep picking it up or putting it down when you take it off.
I was today years old when i finally realised that bottled water companies don't produce water, they produce bottles.
the first 3 are by products of the design not the intent. you've been sucked in by the sOr what the hole in a pan handle is for - putting the handle of your wooden spoon through for somewhere to store it
Or the pans with two handles either side, some people still don't know you can balance the lid on that so you don't have to keep picking it up or putting it down when you take it off.
I was today years old when i finally realised that bottled water companies don't produce water, they produce bottles.
tposts on fb and the like.That's the ticket. We all end up being worm food ( possibly shark shoite for me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YoVJJmP_60
Wonder if Jimi lamented in the manner of Betjeman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YoVJJmP_60
Wonder if Jimi lamented in the manner of Betjeman?
paua said:
That's the ticket. We all end up being worm food ( possibly shark shoite for me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YoVJJmP_60
Wonder if Jimi lamented in the manner of Betjeman?
My mate Tim, whose taste in things was far more sophisticated than the rest of us, was an avid Hendrix fan. He hitchhiked to the Isle of Wight to see Hendrix in concert but didn't quite make it in time. "Never mind," he said "I'll see him next time."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YoVJJmP_60
Wonder if Jimi lamented in the manner of Betjeman?
My Dad’s ‘05 Astra... Which he’s owned for over ten years & I have driven quite a lot.
59yrs: The bracket on the inside of the filler flap to hold the cap.
(A pretty recent discovery, but quite common apparently)
59 &1/4yrs: The little white peg in the filler flap too...a tyre depth gauge, cap remover, & the flat end can be used for the child safety locks.
( Maybe an optional extra).
59yrs: The bracket on the inside of the filler flap to hold the cap.
(A pretty recent discovery, but quite common apparently)
59 &1/4yrs: The little white peg in the filler flap too...a tyre depth gauge, cap remover, & the flat end can be used for the child safety locks.
( Maybe an optional extra).
Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th March 16:27
GiantCardboardPlato said:
bloomen said:
Me too. They went down in my estimation after that, not that I had much to begin with.
Elsewhere I never knew a PhD was always original research. I assumed it was simply loads and loads of difficult multiple choice questions.
Elsewhere I never knew a PhD was always original research. I assumed it was simply loads and loads of difficult multiple choice questions.
A PhD is the best academic qualification there is…
No marks
No exam
4 years to spend on something you’re really interested in.
What do you have to do to get one? The criteria for award are great, so concise, not a f
king 20 page syllabus. “An original contribution to knowledge of publishable quality”.There IS an exam at the end of the PhD. It's the PhD viva (viva voce), an oral exam. Once you have performed your original research, written your thesis (usually between 60,000 and 100,000 words) and submitted it and it has been assessed as of an acceptable standard to satisfy the PhD criteria (not all theses pass, many theses are failed), you then have to "defend" it in an oral examination. Your entire thesis and research is picked apart by 2 examiners, usually 1 internal and 1 external to the institution, and this oral examination can last several hours. It's usually a harrowing experience.
Publishable quality has a very specific meanining in this instance; it means in a peer reviewed scientific journal, not just self publishing via Amazon. It's an extremely high bar to reach. You can't just scribble something down, send it in and expect it to be published. Any original research submitted for publication has to fulfil several criteria and it will be scrutinised very thoroughly by other expert scientists in that field. It might seem like a very short, throw-away criteria, but that single sentence automatically turns it into the multi-page publication criteria of many of the scientific journals, and adds the rigour of peer-review into it. Those 8 words mean more than an 80 page syllabus.
Whoever said that a PhD is 4 years of doing something you're really interested in with no marks and no exams is talking out of their arse and knows absolutely nothing about proper academic qualifications.
Edited by QuickQuack on Thursday 30th March 17:59
skilly1 said:
47 - Only found out last week your prostate is part of / connected to, the penis. Thought it was to do with your arse as people talk about the way you have a prostate exam !
ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Sounds like you had a fun night ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Edited by skilly1 on Tuesday 28th March 07:48
gregs656 said:
skilly1 said:
47 - Only found out last week your prostate is part of / connected to, the penis. Thought it was to do with your arse as people talk about the way you have a prostate exam !
ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Sounds like you had a fun night ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Edited by skilly1 on Tuesday 28th March 07:48
Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th March 20:11
QuickQuack said:
How to say you know nothing about doing a PhD without saying you know nothing about doing a PhD.
There IS an exam at the end of the PhD. It's the PhD viva (viva voce), an oral exam. Once you have performed your original research, written your thesis (usually between 60,000 and 100,000 words) and submitted it and it has been assessed as of an acceptable standard to satisfy the PhD criteria (not all theses pass, many theses are failed), you then have to "defend" it in an oral examination. Your entire thesis and research is picked apart by 2 examiners, usually 1 internal and 1 external to the institution, and this oral examination can last several hours. It's usually a harrowing experience.
Publishable quality has a very specific meanining in this instance; it means in a peer reviewed scientific journal, not just self publishing via Amazon. It's an extremely high bar to reach. You can't just scribble something down, send it in and expect it to be published. Any original research submitted for publication has to fulfil several criteria and it will be scrutinised very thoroughly by other expert scientists in that field. It might seem like a very short, throw-away criteria, but that single sentence automatically turns it into the multi-page publication criteria of many of the scientific journals, and adds the rigour of peer-review into it. Those 8 words mean more than an 80 page syllabus.
Whoever said that a PhD is 4 years of doing something you're really interested in with no marks and no exams is talking out of their arse and knows absolutely nothing about proper academic qualifications.
Ok cheers I’ll remember that tomorrow when I arrive at work for my group meeting with my research group of 8 PhD students and 5 PDRAs. Thanks. I suppose I’ll make a note of it for the 3rd PhD viva that I’ll be examining this year, next month, too.There IS an exam at the end of the PhD. It's the PhD viva (viva voce), an oral exam. Once you have performed your original research, written your thesis (usually between 60,000 and 100,000 words) and submitted it and it has been assessed as of an acceptable standard to satisfy the PhD criteria (not all theses pass, many theses are failed), you then have to "defend" it in an oral examination. Your entire thesis and research is picked apart by 2 examiners, usually 1 internal and 1 external to the institution, and this oral examination can last several hours. It's usually a harrowing experience.
Publishable quality has a very specific meanining in this instance; it means in a peer reviewed scientific journal, not just self publishing via Amazon. It's an extremely high bar to reach. You can't just scribble something down, send it in and expect it to be published. Any original research submitted for publication has to fulfil several criteria and it will be scrutinised very thoroughly by other expert scientists in that field. It might seem like a very short, throw-away criteria, but that single sentence automatically turns it into the multi-page publication criteria of many of the scientific journals, and adds the rigour of peer-review into it. Those 8 words mean more than an 80 page syllabus.
Whoever said that a PhD is 4 years of doing something you're really interested in with no marks and no exams is talking out of their arse and knows absolutely nothing about proper academic qualifications.
Edited by QuickQuack on Thursday 30th March 17:59
Yeah the viva is an exam, but its more a long chat, on something you’re interested in, between experts, of whom the candidate is almost always the most knowledgable, Albeit rarely the most experienced, about the specific area their work covers.
Milkyway said:
gregs656 said:
skilly1 said:
47 - Only found out last week your prostate is part of / connected to, the penis. Thought it was to do with your arse as people talk about the way you have a prostate exam !
ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Sounds like you had a fun night ETA - I also had no idea what it did !
Edited by skilly1 on Tuesday 28th March 07:48
Milkyway said:
My Dad’s ‘05 Astra... Which he’s owned for over ten years & I have driven quite a lot.
59yrs: The bracket on the inside of the filler flap to hold the cap.
(A pretty recent discovery, but quite common apparently)
59 &1/4yrs: The little white peg in the filler flap too...a tyre depth gauge, cap remover, & the flat end can be used for the child safety locks.
( Maybe an optional extra).
Every car (other than very old classics) I've ever driven has some design of fuel cap holder. Be it a hook, lip, peg or somesuch to hold it. 59yrs: The bracket on the inside of the filler flap to hold the cap.
(A pretty recent discovery, but quite common apparently)
59 &1/4yrs: The little white peg in the filler flap too...a tyre depth gauge, cap remover, & the flat end can be used for the child safety locks.
( Maybe an optional extra).
Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th March 16:27
GiantCardboardPlato said:
QuickQuack said:
How to say you know nothing about doing a PhD without saying you know nothing about doing a PhD.
There IS an exam at the end of the PhD. It's the PhD viva (viva voce), an oral exam. Once you have performed your original research, written your thesis (usually between 60,000 and 100,000 words) and submitted it and it has been assessed as of an acceptable standard to satisfy the PhD criteria (not all theses pass, many theses are failed), you then have to "defend" it in an oral examination. Your entire thesis and research is picked apart by 2 examiners, usually 1 internal and 1 external to the institution, and this oral examination can last several hours. It's usually a harrowing experience.
Publishable quality has a very specific meanining in this instance; it means in a peer reviewed scientific journal, not just self publishing via Amazon. It's an extremely high bar to reach. You can't just scribble something down, send it in and expect it to be published. Any original research submitted for publication has to fulfil several criteria and it will be scrutinised very thoroughly by other expert scientists in that field. It might seem like a very short, throw-away criteria, but that single sentence automatically turns it into the multi-page publication criteria of many of the scientific journals, and adds the rigour of peer-review into it. Those 8 words mean more than an 80 page syllabus.
Whoever said that a PhD is 4 years of doing something you're really interested in with no marks and no exams is talking out of their arse and knows absolutely nothing about proper academic qualifications.
Ok cheers I’ll remember that tomorrow when I arrive at work for my group meeting with my research group of 8 PhD students and 5 PDRAs. Thanks. I suppose I’ll make a note of it for the 3rd PhD viva that I’ll be examining this year, next month, too.There IS an exam at the end of the PhD. It's the PhD viva (viva voce), an oral exam. Once you have performed your original research, written your thesis (usually between 60,000 and 100,000 words) and submitted it and it has been assessed as of an acceptable standard to satisfy the PhD criteria (not all theses pass, many theses are failed), you then have to "defend" it in an oral examination. Your entire thesis and research is picked apart by 2 examiners, usually 1 internal and 1 external to the institution, and this oral examination can last several hours. It's usually a harrowing experience.
Publishable quality has a very specific meanining in this instance; it means in a peer reviewed scientific journal, not just self publishing via Amazon. It's an extremely high bar to reach. You can't just scribble something down, send it in and expect it to be published. Any original research submitted for publication has to fulfil several criteria and it will be scrutinised very thoroughly by other expert scientists in that field. It might seem like a very short, throw-away criteria, but that single sentence automatically turns it into the multi-page publication criteria of many of the scientific journals, and adds the rigour of peer-review into it. Those 8 words mean more than an 80 page syllabus.
Whoever said that a PhD is 4 years of doing something you're really interested in with no marks and no exams is talking out of their arse and knows absolutely nothing about proper academic qualifications.
Edited by QuickQuack on Thursday 30th March 17:59
Yeah the viva is an exam, but its more a long chat, on something you’re interested in, between experts, of whom the candidate is almost always the most knowledgable, Albeit rarely the most experienced, about the specific area their work covers.
I don’t think you can generalise about PhD experiences. I am sure there are cases that support both sides of the argument.
In my viva the external examiner was the head of department at my previous college and very well known to me, academically and socially. He was in the process of editing a volume on the sedimentology of shelf seas, into which my PhD fitted like a glove. The first thing he said to me was to ask how long it would take to get my thesis into publishable form.
We never talked about the work at all, other than to point out a couple of typos.
I have a Bachelors, Masters and a PhD in science, and to balance things out, an Open University degree in arts subjects. The OU degree was easily the most difficult of the four to get through. I always thought doing a PhD was largely a matter of being able to stick with the task than anything else.
In my viva the external examiner was the head of department at my previous college and very well known to me, academically and socially. He was in the process of editing a volume on the sedimentology of shelf seas, into which my PhD fitted like a glove. The first thing he said to me was to ask how long it would take to get my thesis into publishable form.
We never talked about the work at all, other than to point out a couple of typos.
I have a Bachelors, Masters and a PhD in science, and to balance things out, an Open University degree in arts subjects. The OU degree was easily the most difficult of the four to get through. I always thought doing a PhD was largely a matter of being able to stick with the task than anything else.
Roofless Toothless said:
I don’t think you can generalise about PhD experiences. I am sure there are cases that support both sides of the argument.
In my viva the external examiner was the head of department at my previous college and very well known to me, academically and socially. He was in the process of editing a volume on the sedimentology of shelf seas, into which my PhD fitted like a glove. The first thing he said to me was to ask how long it would take to get my thesis into publishable form.
We never talked about the work at all, other than to point out a couple of typos.
I have a Bachelors, Masters and a PhD in science, and to balance things out, an Open University degree in arts subjects. The OU degree was easily the most difficult of the four to get through. I always thought doing a PhD was largely a matter of being able to stick with the task than anything else.
Made it half way through the second paragraph.....In my viva the external examiner was the head of department at my previous college and very well known to me, academically and socially. He was in the process of editing a volume on the sedimentology of shelf seas, into which my PhD fitted like a glove. The first thing he said to me was to ask how long it would take to get my thesis into publishable form.
We never talked about the work at all, other than to point out a couple of typos.
I have a Bachelors, Masters and a PhD in science, and to balance things out, an Open University degree in arts subjects. The OU degree was easily the most difficult of the four to get through. I always thought doing a PhD was largely a matter of being able to stick with the task than anything else.
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