What is art to you?

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PlywoodPascal

5,548 posts

30 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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Shermanator said:
PlywoodPascal said:
I think this doesn’t make much sense really….
You can see how ridiculous it is as a position if you transfer it to other forms of art…

A play that I don’t like isn’t theatre
Music I dislike is not music

Etc etc
A play is still a play, whether I like it or not. Whether something is a play is not subjective. Same with another poster regarding ugly houses. What art (in the sense of sculptures, paintings, doodles etc) is, is subjective. I admit I had forgotten to take into consideration that "the arts (acting etc)" are all art and was only thinking (and this asking) about the sort of thing you would see in a gallery.
So let’s say, in a gallery, you see two paintings next to one another. One you like, one you don’t. Obviously, the one you like is art, that makes sense, it’s in a gallery, after all. What is the thing you don’t like doing in a gallery? What is it?

Regbuser

4,860 posts

44 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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thepritch

1,193 posts

174 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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Regbuser said:
Thanks, but it’s a bit personal to post. I’d go and see a doctor today if I were you!

Regbuser

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44 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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It was a bugger to get the stain out of the rug !

Lotobear

7,412 posts

137 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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I recall once admiring a matched pair of very nice art pottery vases in an antique shop - very simply and organic forms.

The dealer commented when I asked about the price (which was reasonable) "but the space between them comes absolutely free".

I'm sure it's a line he often trotted out but it was quite clever and he was right - it's often the things we don't immediately 'see' that is the art.


thebraketester

14,826 posts

147 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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Jim H said:
Hmmmmm?

Gilles banging wheels with Rene - Dijon ‘79.

Glorious.

Captured exactly by Arthur Benjamins

Or Gilles with a bit of puncture heading back to the pits at speed.

The crowd in are looking at one thing.

Photos do not constitute art IMO…

thepritch

1,193 posts

174 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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thebraketester said:
Photos do not constitute art IMO…
They do for me. If there is an element of narrative or self expression it is absolutely art.

A good friend of mine will imagine an image which will have a lot of thought and a narrative behind it. He will then set about creating that image he has in mind. In one example that involved hiring a dancer, hiring a studio space, lighting it, taking it, and do all manner of post processing and then spend days printing it.

I don’t believe lots of effort = art, but he had a vision, and set about expressing it, but used a camera.

In my world, that is art.

Shermanator

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567 posts

84 months

Monday 15th July 2024
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PlywoodPascal said:
So let’s say, in a gallery, you see two paintings next to one another. One you like, one you don’t. Obviously, the one you like is art, that makes sense, it’s in a gallery, after all. What is the thing you don’t like doing in a gallery? What is it?
I'm not saying it isn't art (full stop). I'm saying the one I don't like isn't art TO ME. Someone else might consider it art, hence it being in the gallery.