The official 2024/2025 snowmageddon disappointment thread

The official 2024/2025 snowmageddon disappointment thread

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J4CKO

43,620 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Roofless Toothless said:
I remember when at school in the sixties there was a fog so bad we all got sent home early. What buses were running were being led down the road by the conductor with a torch. I decided to walk the three miles home. There were several side turnings to cross, and you couldn’t see across to the other side. I actually lost my sense of direction while negotiating one of these and ended up walking down the turning rather than the main road, which scared me a lot at the time.
Yeah, my parents and grandparents told me of the “Pea Soupers” in the fifties and sixties.

That was fog with added car exhaust, industrial smoke and coal fire but think things were about better by the eighties.

I remember them saying how it left you grubby where the eighties fog, to me always seemed clean and just that it was only fog and not down to pollution as well but may have been.

Was great fun.

Mars

9,347 posts

225 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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My Grandad, 1920-2016, lived in the era of smog in south Birmingham. On bad smog days when he was a child, he and his friend would walk into Olton where the smog would settle particularly thick, and walk on the pavement alongside the cars on the road to give them a guide as visibility was pretty much down to about 10 feet. Some drivers would give them a small-denomination coin for their trouble.

He said, on a good day they'd manage to direct 10-15 cars. Nowadays that stretch of the Warwick Road is nose-to-tail traffic for at least 16 hours a day. No smog anymore though.

Tango13

9,223 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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From what I've seen of old films the inside of pubs were a self contained 'pea-souper' every night of the year? biggrin

On one of the freeview channels a while back there was a documentary about the railways back in the fifties with some rare colour footage, London looked filthy!

anonymous-user

65 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Pre-smoking ban some pubs were vile later on in an evening. The smell of your clothes and hair would hit you first thing when you wake up. Not an anti-smoking nazi by any stretch, but I defy anyone to say the air quality in pubs back then was acceptable.

wazztie16

1,547 posts

142 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Puggit said:
Cold spell coming up from NY Day. Chance of major snow for many parts. Keeping an eye out wink
Yes, yellow weather warnings out now for Wednesday late morning to early hours of Thursday, and for wind the same start time but finishes a few hours later.

I'm supposed to be assistant referee on a Northern Premier League game at 3 on NYD, could be interesting...

Davetheraver

1,393 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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The snow forecast for next weekend and into the week after is really stressing me out. I have lots of travel for important events for me and the whole family.

Guess I am a lone voice in here, but I really hope it doesn't materialize.

Its Just Adz

15,592 posts

220 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Really bizarre weather changes this week.
Fine tomorrow and a low of 8c, then a few days later it's saying -4c

trickywoo

12,660 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Forester1965 said:
Pre-smoking ban some pubs were vile later on in an evening. The smell of your clothes and hair would hit you first thing when you wake up. Not an anti-smoking nazi by any stretch, but I defy anyone to say the air quality in pubs back then was acceptable.
Even worse when you got that experience on a train. At lest with a pub you had more choice to visit or not.

When doing a tour of the submarine at Chatham dockyard the guy said smoking was allowed and at peak times the upper half of the cabin was thick with smoke. Besides the general conditions that on top I have no idea how they did it.

J4CKO

43,620 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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trickywoo said:
Forester1965 said:
Pre-smoking ban some pubs were vile later on in an evening. The smell of your clothes and hair would hit you first thing when you wake up. Not an anti-smoking nazi by any stretch, but I defy anyone to say the air quality in pubs back then was acceptable.
Even worse when you got that experience on a train. At lest with a pub you had more choice to visit or not.

When doing a tour of the submarine at Chatham dockyard the guy said smoking was allowed and at peak times the upper half of the cabin was thick with smoke. Besides the general conditions that on top I have no idea how they did it.
My first visit to my local after the ban, well it transpires that the oppressive smoke masked the smell of the gents quite effectively !

Mars

9,347 posts

225 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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J4CKO said:
My first visit to my local after the ban, well it transpires that the oppressive smoke masked the smell of the gents quite effectively !
Jeez, yes. And the beer-soaked carpets in pubs. Piss and stale beer became the overwhelming stench of pubs for a while after the smoking ban. Forced some to (finally) sort out the toilets although many continue with their pre-war facilities to this day... usually those that have toilets down a corridor or outside.

JakeT

5,706 posts

131 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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J4CKO said:
Been pretty foggy on and off, it’s freaking out TikTok conspiracy morons, I think most have never seen fog.

I don’t want to do the “in my day” but I genuinely remember much thicker fog as a kid in the eighties, couldn’t see much more than a couple of feet.

But now it’s apparently the government cloaking stuff they don’t want us to see ffs, in other words people born 90s onwards who have never seen much fog !

Why was there more then, has air quality changed or like there is less snow, some climate adjustment thing ?
Not even long ago I recall driving near home with just sidelights and fog lights on because my car had xenon headlamps and it just reflected off of the fog, blinding me. But less particulate matter, and more wind has meant less fog. I am excited for the potential of snow, though!

Also now, stepping outside and smelling fresh cigarette smoke is divine. The smell in a pub was awful though, and the day after even worse!

MG CHRIS

9,240 posts

178 months

Sunday 29th December 2024
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Its Just Adz said:
Really bizarre weather changes this week.
Fine tomorrow and a low of 8c, then a few days later it's saying -4c
Weather been weird for a while now by me in south wales. Have a day of low single digits or morning frost then the very next day its 10c+. Had 14c and clear on christmas day the following day was heavy fog and 3c. Something is defenitly broken with our weather this year.

Wills2

25,172 posts

186 months

Monday 30th December 2024
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UK weather has always been very changeable there is nothing new in that, feels like we get more rain than we used to, but the variability has been a thing due our location, we're pretty unique with our weather due to being in a position where 5 main air masses meet.

timbob

2,164 posts

263 months

Monday 30th December 2024
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J4CKO said:
Roofless Toothless said:
I remember when at school in the sixties there was a fog so bad we all got sent home early. What buses were running were being led down the road by the conductor with a torch. I decided to walk the three miles home. There were several side turnings to cross, and you couldn’t see across to the other side. I actually lost my sense of direction while negotiating one of these and ended up walking down the turning rather than the main road, which scared me a lot at the time.
Yeah, my parents and grandparents told me of the “Pea Soupers” in the fifties and sixties.

That was fog with added car exhaust, industrial smoke and coal fire but think things were about better by the eighties.

I remember them saying how it left you grubby where the eighties fog, to me always seemed clean and just that it was only fog and not down to pollution as well but may have been.

Was great fun.
Not necessarily the actual “smoke” from the car exhausts etc, but lots more things put out a greater degree of heavier particulate matter into the atmosphere than is allowed these days - wood/coal home fires (when most homes had a chimney), particulates from industry and car exhaust that are now largely dealt with, for example. These extra particles floating around gave something for the water vapour in the air to condense upon = much heavier/thicker fog.

Huzzah

27,768 posts

194 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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Sara Blizzard has just given me the news re wind and rain tonight. Nuts, I may stay in.

21st Century Man

42,088 posts

259 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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timbob said:
J4CKO said:
Roofless Toothless said:
I remember when at school in the sixties there was a fog so bad we all got sent home early. What buses were running were being led down the road by the conductor with a torch. I decided to walk the three miles home. There were several side turnings to cross, and you couldn’t see across to the other side. I actually lost my sense of direction while negotiating one of these and ended up walking down the turning rather than the main road, which scared me a lot at the time.
Yeah, my parents and grandparents told me of the “Pea Soupers” in the fifties and sixties.

That was fog with added car exhaust, industrial smoke and coal fire but think things were about better by the eighties.

I remember them saying how it left you grubby where the eighties fog, to me always seemed clean and just that it was only fog and not down to pollution as well but may have been.

Was great fun.
Not necessarily the actual “smoke” from the car exhausts etc, but lots more things put out a greater degree of heavier particulate matter into the atmosphere than is allowed these days - wood/coal home fires (when most homes had a chimney), particulates from industry and car exhaust that are now largely dealt with, for example. These extra particles floating around gave something for the water vapour in the air to condense upon = much heavier/thicker fog.
The last proper fog that I experienced was in Nottingham around 1982. I had to walk in front of my mates Cortina, and as someone above mentioned, one couldn't see side roads or across junctions or even the kerb. It was like fumbling around in the dark.

Whatever one thinks of congestion charging and low emission zones, city centre air quality is much better now. When I visit London it's remarkable how clean the air is and what little traffic there is compared to just twenty or thirty years ago.

xeny

4,871 posts

89 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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21st Century Man said:
When I visit London it's remarkable how clean the air is and what little traffic there is compared to just twenty or thirty years ago.
I've been motorcycling into London now for over thirty years. Air is definitely cleaner, but really not convinced there is less traffic.

Puggit

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48,927 posts

259 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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Tickets anyone?

I've removed myself from Twitter, so not as well informed as I used to be - but looks like our first proper cold spell is building up

romft123

1,393 posts

15 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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Still waiting for the blizzards that I was promised 3 years ago in all the rags

S100HP

13,155 posts

178 months

Tuesday 31st December 2024
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Puggit said:
Tickets anyone?

I've removed myself from Twitter, so not as well informed as I used to be - but looks like our first proper cold spell is building up
How far south? Please let it hit us, I got a 4wd just for this moment.