Ever wanted access to all those toilets?

Ever wanted access to all those toilets?

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MGZRod

8,086 posts

175 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Famous Graham said:
Cobblers.

If there's no one in the pub requiring use if the disabled loo, then I'll quite happily use them.

Ditto the reserved seats in buses - if no one elderly is getting on, I'll sit there.

They're preferential, NOT proscribed.

No idea what this RADAR thing is, tho.


Edited by Famous Graham on Monday 21st February 02:50
Agree with bus seats, fine if the situation suits it.

Probably more personal with me as our pub is quite large and usually quite busy most folk won't have a clue if any others are genuinely disabled.

Normal disabled toilets I don't mind as long as your respectful about it. But the Radar ones are different.

Shaman

699 posts

199 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Zeemax_Mini said:
True, I don't...but this is a wetherspoons and he's there everyday pissed out of his mind 9am-1am, maybe the pub gave him the key as some kind of loyalty bonus!
This wouldn't be the spoons in Sheffield would it? The first time I visited the loos there I thought this'd make Sir Ranalph wish that he'd brought a map! Though they were quite nice as far as pub loos go!

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

187 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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It always makes me chuckle when people say "everywhere" when they actually mean "in major cities".

FWIW, I've never seen a RADAR toilet.

JonyTVR

2,548 posts

188 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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having being given use of a radar key they are generally everywhere, from local towns to big cities to train stations. they can be just as horrible as normal public loos or a lot nicer, all depends on where they are, trust me 'disabled' people arnt always cleaner than the pondlife who use the normal loos.

once you start looking for them you will probably notice them more, same as everything, if your not looking for it you won't notice it

paul_y3k

618 posts

207 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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To those that have never seen Radar Loo's


Silverstone has them ... and having a key due to legit reasons certainly helps at the busy events there smile

Somewhatfoolish

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4,336 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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MGZRod said:
Why not go to the normal toilets? I work in a pub with two disabled toilets at each end that need radar's. We have had to stop giving keys out as 'normal' folk may not give it back, and it's a bit irritating to take a elderly lady to the door, then wait as a middle aged man who can't be bothered walking down 15 steps comes out after having a st.

Do you use disabled spaces too at supermarkets?

I know I bit there, but it posses me off and is not very respectful at all.
Why do disabled people deserve any more respect than anyone else? Assuming that they need to be treated with kid gloves is actually more disrespectful.

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,336 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
It always makes me chuckle when people say "everywhere" when they actually mean "in major cities".

FWIW, I've never seen a RADAR toilet.
That is not the kind of mistake I make. They really are all over smile

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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rolleyes

Sure why not just wait around the bog for someone with a genuine need for a RADAR key to come along and when they gain access to the toilet just bail in ahead of them and shut the door in their face! It's not like they are going to get through the door first, they're disabled! Don't worry about their feelings - they either don't have feelings or are used to adversity anyway.


Scrumper

318 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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I landed once at Orly airport in Paris after an overnight from the USA. Needed to change into my whistle, but the only place I could find was a disabled bog. Nobody around (it was early) so I went in, had a crap, cleaned my teeth, washed my face and put my work clothes on. I didn't dawdle, but I wasn't exactly rushing either.

I opened the door probably 10 or 12 minutes later to find a queue of three angry pensioners in wheelchairs shaking their fists (in French) at me. I quickly put on my best limp and got out of there. I hope nobody's bag burst.

I'll give the Radar key a miss, but I might make a donation!

twazzock

1,930 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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For those who can't find them, it's OK, they do a guide too biggrin

http://radar-shop.org.uk/Detail.aspx?id=44

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,336 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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JuniorD said:
rolleyes

Sure why not just wait around the bog for someone with a genuine need for a RADAR key to come along and when they gain access to the toilet just bail in ahead of them and shut the door in their face! It's not like they are going to get through the door first, they're disabled! Don't worry about their feelings - they either don't have feelings or are used to adversity anyway.
cause it defeats the object of getting to the toilet as soon as possible. of course if there is a queue you can murder the first in line, nick their key, and defecate on their body...


...er... wtf? I think you miss the point

Chainguy

4,381 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Really good friend of mine has something called ulcerative colitis. He hasn't had a solid crap for about 15 years, it's always the squits he has. When he has to go, he has to go, right then. He has about a 3 minute window, at best.

In Buchanan Galleries in Glasgow, the Radar toilet is right as you go in from the car park walkway, not another 3 sories further up and at the other side of the complex. I can think of one occasion where if it had not of been for this positioning, and his Radar key, well.. frown

Hope that answered your question about why he needs them, Somewhatfoolish.

I've got to say, pretty saddening to see someone on here so up for abusing a system which I've seen, first hand, save a good lad from a load of embarassment.

MGZRod

8,086 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Why do disabled people deserve any more respect than anyone else? Assuming that they need to be treated with kid gloves is actually more disrespectful.
Our toilets are on separate floors, that take maybe 20 seconds to walk to. And about 32.5 hours for Doris with her walking sticks or speedy Gonzales in his wheelchair to get to. How dare they have the right to access toilets?!
And how exactly is letting disabled toilets giving them more respect? confused

GestapoWatch

1,385 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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The Riddler said:
They are better for number two's.

The grab rails and extra leg room really do come in handy when fighting the brown beast.
Plus there's usually a wall mounted bidet on offer which is something a run-of-the-mill cubicle cannot offer hehe

acf8181

797 posts

233 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Chainguy said:
Really good friend of mine has something called ulcerative colitis. He hasn't had a solid crap for about 15 years, it's always the squits he has. When he has to go, he has to go, right then. He has about a 3 minute window, at best.

In Buchanan Galleries in Glasgow, the Radar toilet is right as you go in from the car park walkway, not another 3 sories further up and at the other side of the complex. I can think of one occasion where if it had not of been for this positioning, and his Radar key, well.. frown

Hope that answered your question about why he needs them, Somewhatfoolish.

I've got to say, pretty saddening to see someone on here so up for abusing a system which I've seen, first hand, save a good lad from a load of embarassment.
+1

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Whe I was in the UK recently I was astounded by the number of disabled parking spaces there were both in streets and at supermarkets.


Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,336 posts

185 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Chainguy said:
Really good friend of mine has something called ulcerative colitis. He hasn't had a solid crap for about 15 years, it's always the squits he has. When he has to go, he has to go, right then. He has about a 3 minute window, at best.

In Buchanan Galleries in Glasgow, the Radar toilet is right as you go in from the car park walkway, not another 3 sories further up and at the other side of the complex. I can think of one occasion where if it had not of been for this positioning, and his Radar key, well.. frown

Hope that answered your question about why he needs them, Somewhatfoolish.

I've got to say, pretty saddening to see someone on here so up for abusing a system which I've seen, first hand, save a good lad from a load of embarassment.
It isn't abusing the system.

Chainguy

4,381 posts

199 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Chainguy said:
Really good friend of mine has something called ulcerative colitis. He hasn't had a solid crap for about 15 years, it's always the squits he has. When he has to go, he has to go, right then. He has about a 3 minute window, at best.

In Buchanan Galleries in Glasgow, the Radar toilet is right as you go in from the car park walkway, not another 3 sories further up and at the other side of the complex. I can think of one occasion where if it had not of been for this positioning, and his Radar key, well.. frown

Hope that answered your question about why he needs them, Somewhatfoolish.

I've got to say, pretty saddening to see someone on here so up for abusing a system which I've seen, first hand, save a good lad from a load of embarassment.
It isn't abusing the system.
No. It is abusing the system. Do you also use the disabled parking spaces?

My dad has a disabled badge. He needs it. He picked up a nasty injury while fighting for this country many years ago. The march of time means that as he has aged, the injury, which never really healed right all those years ago, has gotten far, far worse. Pretty lousy to see a proud man who now cant walk more than 20 yeards unaided struggle on.

We clubbed together and got him one of those mobility scooters last year. Great things, but you need space around the car to load and unload it.

Anyways, it really hacks me off when he goes to Asda or some such and all the disabled bays are full of people who are perfectly fit, no blue badge. He then has to park further away and try and struggle in using two sticks. The normal parking bays are way to small for him to even get his mobility scooter out of, without potentially damaging other peoples cars. Old boy would never take that chance, he believes in people taking pride in what they have worked for. You know, like he did all his working life.

But hey, why should they get special treatment eh? Why should he?

Tell you what Somewhatfoolish, you have the toilet, you have the parking, maybe you should have the disability also if it's all peaches and cream? Wonder if you'd change your tune then.

It amazes how so often on these boards, we read of people getting pee'd off at the lack of respect people show in this country. You know, the young who don't respect this and that, the immigrants who don't respect whatever, and yet here is a case where someone at least should be looking a wee bit more closer to home about lack of respect.

Enjoy your new key. Enjoy the sort of person it makes you as well.

Like I said, I honestly thought we were a bit less selfish (I'll use selfish as the board isn't going to let me write c u next tuesdayish on the forum, frankly) than this around here. frown

andy400

10,296 posts

230 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Chainguy said:
No. It is abusing the system. Do you also use the disabled parking spaces?

My dad has a disabled badge. He needs it. He picked up a nasty injury while fighting for this country many years ago. The march of time means that as he has aged, the injury, which never really healed right all those years ago, has gotten far, far worse. Pretty lousy to see a proud man who now cant walk more than 20 yeards unaided struggle on.

We clubbed together and got him one of those mobility scooters last year. Great things, but you need space around the car to load and unload it.

Anyways, it really hacks me off when he goes to Asda or some such and all the disabled bays are full of people who are perfectly fit, no blue badge. He then has to park further away and try and struggle in using two sticks. The normal parking bays are way to small for him to even get his mobility scooter out of, without potentially damaging other peoples cars. Old boy would never take that chance, he believes in people taking pride in what they have worked for. You know, like he did all his working life.

But hey, why should they get special treatment eh? Why should he?

Tell you what Somewhatfoolish, you have the toilet, you have the parking, maybe you should have the disability also if it's all peaches and cream? Wonder if you'd change your tune then.

It amazes how so often on these boards, we read of people getting pee'd off at the lack of respect people show in this country. You know, the young who don't respect this and that, the immigrants who don't respect whatever, and yet here is a case where someone at least should be looking a wee bit more closer to home about lack of respect.

Enjoy your new key. Enjoy the sort of person it makes you as well.

Like I said, I honestly thought we were a bit less selfish (I'll use selfish as the board isn't going to let me write c u next tuesdayish on the forum, frankly) than this around here. frown
On the flip side, it can be bloody annoying when the car park is chock full, but there are many empty disabled spaces. Sometimes the only toilet nearby is 'radar', and having a key means being able to use it.

I, for one, would never use a disabled toilet if there was an 'ordinary' one available, but if it's the only option?

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,336 posts

185 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Chainguy said:
No. It is abusing the system. Do you also use the disabled parking spaces?

My dad has a disabled badge. He needs it. He picked up a nasty injury while fighting for this country many years ago. The march of time means that as he has aged, the injury, which never really healed right all those years ago, has gotten far, far worse. Pretty lousy to see a proud man who now cant walk more than 20 yeards unaided struggle on.

We clubbed together and got him one of those mobility scooters last year. Great things, but you need space around the car to load and unload it.

Anyways, it really hacks me off when he goes to Asda or some such and all the disabled bays are full of people who are perfectly fit, no blue badge. He then has to park further away and try and struggle in using two sticks. The normal parking bays are way to small for him to even get his mobility scooter out of, without potentially damaging other peoples cars. Old boy would never take that chance, he believes in people taking pride in what they have worked for. You know, like he did all his working life.

But hey, why should they get special treatment eh? Why should he?

Tell you what Somewhatfoolish, you have the toilet, you have the parking, maybe you should have the disability also if it's all peaches and cream? Wonder if you'd change your tune then.

It amazes how so often on these boards, we read of people getting pee'd off at the lack of respect people show in this country. You know, the young who don't respect this and that, the immigrants who don't respect whatever, and yet here is a case where someone at least should be looking a wee bit more closer to home about lack of respect.

Enjoy your new key. Enjoy the sort of person it makes you as well.

Like I said, I honestly thought we were a bit less selfish (I'll use selfish as the board isn't going to let me write c u next tuesdayish on the forum, frankly) than this around here. frown
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