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Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
I find a level of satisfaction ignoring the huge amounts of bad food in my company most days. I just take a look and say no thanks knowing I will be happy with my weight by not eating the junk, getting fat and then feeling guilty.
yes

Not so much the guilt but knowing I've wasted a few days' hard work. As I put it, it's like accelerating with a foot on the brake pedal.

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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I was at Williams F1 conference centre yesterday; 'breakfast' was fancy pastries and buffet lunch was no better - all junk, not even a salad option. I was a tad peckish by the time I got home.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
I was at Williams F1 conference centre yesterday; 'breakfast' was fancy pastries and buffet lunch was no better - all junk, not even a salad option. I was a tad peckish by the time I got home.
Bit annoying. (Is that way most business people are overweight?) But providing it's within your daily calorie intake, no need to starve!

New POD

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3,851 posts

149 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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New POD said:
Indeed. More fking Cakes today, this time bulk purchased from asda. Think someone had a grade increase following a performance review.

Still 93.8 this morning, which I put down to Liver and Onions and Rice Yesterday. Just spend 2 hours on the old climbing wall, and bloody hell ! It's getting easier again. I'm like a fat mountain goat.
Friday morning I was a record breaking 93.1Kg. I put down the .7Kg reduction in 24 hours down to a massive crapola, (must have be storing that up), plus the climbing wall at Alter Rock in Derby. To get up a '5' I have to break into a sweat. It's like vertical yoga.

Saturday, I spent 7 hours in the garage with my son, a cavalier, a gas less mig welder, angle grinder, tin snips and a wheel arch repair panel, plus assorted consumables and tools.

Then Sunday, went climbing in Liverpool at Awesome walls in Liverpool, with my wife and son.

Wifey struggled, but given that she is a recovered Chronic Fatigue Sufferer, she has no muscles, at all, but she wants to go back again, so that's a healthy sign.

They had a few 'technical shoes' on sale, so I did what I've been promising myself for 2 years, and bought a pair.

Decent Sunday Roast was my reward. Lamb, Onion Sauce, New Pots, Mashed Sweet Pots, Beans, Califlower Cheese, and Gravy, followed by apple pie.

Given that I had no lunch I think Tomorrow mornings weigh in will be a flat line, but can't tell.

What I can say is that I'm having a large bowl of Cereal with skimmed milk every day, one salad based sandwich, and fruit for lunch, followed by a sensible small sized tea, (except on Sunday, when I have roast)

Flibble

6,470 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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New POD said:
They had a few 'technical shoes' on sale, so I did what I've been promising myself for 2 years, and bought a pair.
You will thank yourself for that, they make a huge difference. What were you climbing in before? Less technical shoes or trainers?

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Hoofy said:
Bit annoying. (Is that way most business people are overweight?) But providing it's within your daily calorie intake, no need to starve!
Maybe, but I'm a little OCD and if I cut crap - crap's out!
I struggle with cheat meals. hehe

Unfortunately, the opposite is also true; if I'm having a blow out, it's all out! May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb and all that.

Merlin28

658 posts

147 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I was 86kg a month ago I am now 83kg which is good for someone my size always had big shoulders.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
Hoofy said:
Bit annoying. (Is that way most business people are overweight?) But providing it's within your daily calorie intake, no need to starve!
Maybe, but I'm a little OCD and if I cut crap - crap's out!
I struggle with cheat meals. hehe

Unfortunately, the opposite is also true; if I'm having a blow out, it's all out! May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb and all that.
That's one issue I hear people to struggle with - cheat days. But not for the same reason. They struggle with the idea that cheating doesn't mean a 20,000 calorie binge. Which does make you wonder if that thread about fat people being thick is true.

fatpasty

1,561 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Just had the same thing here in the office. One of my good friends is leaving and he was cutting up a big cake. Just gave me a slice without asking if I wanted a piece.

haha only a small slice but looks like I've got to do a little bit more work tonight now then to burn that off.


Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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fatpasty said:
Just had the same thing here in the office. One of my good friends is leaving and he was cutting up a big cake. Just gave me a slice without asking if I wanted a piece.

haha only a small slice but looks like I've got to do a little bit more work tonight now then to burn that off.
Depending on your definition of small, it might only be 150-200 calories. Well within your daily intake if you are calorie counting (which is what I have done every day for the last 5 months with no problem).

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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That's okay if you accept any kcal=kcal - but that's not true.
There are good kcals and there are bad kcals.
Cake is bad kcals.

Juanco20

3,212 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
That's okay if you accept any kcal=kcal - but that's not true.
There are good kcals and there are bad kcals.
Cake is bad kcals.
BUT IT TASTES SO GOOOOD

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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... an equally valid point. yes

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
That's okay if you accept any kcal=kcal - but that's not true.
There are good kcals and there are bad kcals.
Cake is bad kcals.
yes

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
LordGrover said:
That's okay if you accept any kcal=kcal - but that's not true.
There are good kcals and there are bad kcals.
Cake is bad kcals.
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Sure, but if you want to enjoy life, I find going for the simplest method works. So in my view, there's no such thing as bad calories from a weight loss perspective.

Obviously, I recommend everyone eat healthily so they can end up in a care home.

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Apols OP, we appear to be veering off at a tangent... hehe

The point is; eating healthily and exercising keeps you fitter for longer - it has little effect on how long you'll live.
To a large extent, that's pretty much programmed at birth in your genes - your susceptibility to cancer/CVD/congenital disorders/etc.
I'd rather be healthier for longer thanks and enjoy the lottery of life.

*All bets are off on beer & curry nights though. wink

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LordGrover said:
Apols OP, we appear to be veering off at a tangent... hehe

The point is; eating healthily and exercising keeps you fitter for longer - it has little effect on how long you'll live.
To a large extent, that's pretty much programmed at birth in your genes - your susceptibility to cancer/CVD/congenital disorders/etc.
I'd rather be healthier for longer thanks and enjoy the lottery of life.

*All bets are off on beer & curry nights though. wink
Which is fine and I agree with but this thread is about weight loss not longevity and health.

When people are new to this topic, they always think healthy eating means they'll be lean. I know far too many healthy heffers.

As for longevity, well, at 75, I intend to sell up and head to the Himalayas for a trek up something tall with a low oxygen level. Great view to exit this world from.

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 17th July 14:22

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Sorry Hoofy, I didn't mean any offense although LG is right in my view.

I think low cals is fine for women as long as its reasonably healthy but for guys who want to maintain muscle when dieting its important they eat the right foods and keep protein levels high and eating any cals doesn't achieve that.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
Sorry Hoofy, I didn't mean any offense although LG is right in my view.

I think low cals is fine for women as long as its reasonably healthy but for guys who want to maintain muscle when dieting its important they eat the right foods and keep protein levels high and eating any cals doesn't achieve that.
Sure, but that's a different thing altogether and the reason why I eat a lot of protein while counting calories! Plus he can afford a small piece of cake.

On Saturday, I went to a barbecue and had three pieces of cake. I did make sure I ate a fair bit of chicken, beef and salad, plus not much in the way of carbs. biggrin

Edit: a quick scan of the thread shows he isn't doing anything in the weight lifting sense apart from climbing.

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 17th July 14:38

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Hoofy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Sorry Hoofy, I didn't mean any offense although LG is right in my view.

I think low cals is fine for women as long as its reasonably healthy but for guys who want to maintain muscle when dieting its important they eat the right foods and keep protein levels high and eating any cals doesn't achieve that.
Sure, but that's a different thing altogether and the reason why I eat a lot of protein while counting calories! Plus he can afford a small piece of cake.
I'd consider that counter productive even if it is within his daily allowance and once body fat gets to lower levels it will certainly hamper progress.