What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2
Discussion
smiffy180 said:
I haven't read too much into them, I'm just using MK677 (oral growth hormone) and Ostarine. Both really good for tendon repair which appears to have shown!
On paper they're very interesting and promising!
OK, this sounds interesting, and more where my thinking is lying.On paper they're very interesting and promising!
I've a tub of Ostarine, TBH it had no noticeable effects- Maybe in a harsh cut you'd see the benefit, but not worth the money IMO. Besides, the chemical structure on a lot of the SARM's is patented, and there's ambiguity about exactly what you're getting if it's not from original source- you're just assuming it's what's on the tub label.
didelydoo said:
I've a tub of Ostarine, TBH it had no noticeable effects- Maybe in a harsh cut you'd see the benefit, but not worth the money IMO. Besides, the chemical structure on a lot of the SARM's is patented, and there's ambiguity about exactly what you're getting if it's not from original source- you're just assuming it's what's on the tub label.
That's why i wouldn't bother. no idea what's in it. Ive read that peptides work. I know for a fact that the boys out in Kuwait are using the best gear available and whatever it is it's far superior to anything else. Seen Mcmillan lately. Kevin Levrone has just been out there and has gained 30lbs in 6 months.didelydoo said:
I've a tub of Ostarine, TBH it had no noticeable effects
This.Anecdote and most people that I know who've tried Osta (only 3 or 4 admittedly), have been unimpressed. The fact is the Holy Grail for tendon repair is HGH/Igf1 - and even this might take a couple of cycles. For growth it's steroids...and their potential side effects, although Tbol, Anavar etc are a sort of halfway house that come with very few sides and short pct. The supplement industry has made some suppliers very rich off the backs of people who just want an 'edge', but the fact is that between Creatine and AAS there's not much that works, if anything.
didelydoo said:
I've a tub of Ostarine, TBH it had no noticeable effects- Maybe in a harsh cut you'd see the benefit, but not worth the money IMO. Besides, the chemical structure on a lot of the SARM's is patented, and there's ambiguity about exactly what you're getting if it's not from original source- you're just assuming it's what's on the tub label.
I believe some brands are bad/duds. I gave my friend a tub of Ostarine and in 2 months he's gone from 80kg bench 1RM to 120 for reps whilst losing around 10kg in bodyweight.
He's also been in the gym last couple of years so he was pleasantly surprised that he gained so much in such a little time.
I've got Alphaform I think they're called.
smiffy180 said:
I believe some brands are bad/duds.
I gave my friend a tub of Ostarine and in 2 months he's gone from 80kg bench 1RM to 120 for reps whilst losing around 10kg in bodyweight.
He's also been in the gym last couple of years so he was pleasantly surprised that he gained so much in such a little time.
I've got Alphaform I think they're called.
Call me sceptical......but 40+kg on a bench whilst loosing a kg a week for 10 weeks ain't going to happen using Ostarine, or most real AAS for that matter. I'd say his bench was significantly higher to start with (say 120kg)I gave my friend a tub of Ostarine and in 2 months he's gone from 80kg bench 1RM to 120 for reps whilst losing around 10kg in bodyweight.
He's also been in the gym last couple of years so he was pleasantly surprised that he gained so much in such a little time.
I've got Alphaform I think they're called.
popeyewhite said:
didelydoo said:
I've a tub of Ostarine, TBH it had no noticeable effects
This.Anecdote and most people that I know who've tried Osta (only 3 or 4 admittedly), have been unimpressed. The fact is the Holy Grail for tendon repair is HGH/Igf1 - and even this might take a couple of cycles. For growth it's steroids...and their potential side effects, although Tbol, Anavar etc are a sort of halfway house that come with very few sides and short pct. The supplement industry has made some suppliers very rich off the backs of people who just want an 'edge', but the fact is that between Creatine and AAS there's not much that works, if anything.
smiffy180 said:
I believe some brands are bad/duds.
I gave my friend a tub of Ostarine and in 2 months he's gone from 80kg bench 1RM to 120 for reps whilst losing around 10kg in bodyweight.
He's also been in the gym last couple of years so he was pleasantly surprised that he gained so much in such a little time.
I've got Alphaform I think they're called.
YOu're a top salesman, SMiffy! I gave my friend a tub of Ostarine and in 2 months he's gone from 80kg bench 1RM to 120 for reps whilst losing around 10kg in bodyweight.
He's also been in the gym last couple of years so he was pleasantly surprised that he gained so much in such a little time.
I've got Alphaform I think they're called.
Creatine makes no difference to my strength, but it does seem to make me able to workout a little more quickly and for a little longer, which would make sense given its mechanism.
80kg for 1 rep to 120kg for reps. An improvement of over 50% and 40kg in 2 months a trained individual?!
Either his training before was diabolically bad and improved massively or those numbers don't make any sense.
He would be beyond an outlier even for studies into the effects of steroids!
80kg for 1 rep to 120kg for reps. An improvement of over 50% and 40kg in 2 months a trained individual?!
Either his training before was diabolically bad and improved massively or those numbers don't make any sense.
He would be beyond an outlier even for studies into the effects of steroids!
I too have creatine, although I am not sure what effect it has on me, I read that the advantages of taking it isn't so great for the 'older athlete'. I mainly just stick to that, casein and whey..
Today, I took it easier, although still no less hard..
Back Extensions - 2x25
Leg Press - 5x16-8 reps (Holy lactic acid build-up)!
Close Grip Bench Press (hands no more than 6" apart) -5x12-8 reps
High Pulls - 5x12-5 reps
Power Clean - 6x2
BB BOR - 4x12-8 reps
Wide Grip Pull Ups (BW+15kg) - 5x7-5 reps
Seated Pulley Row - 4x12-10 reps
Not much, but better than nothing, I guess..
Today, I took it easier, although still no less hard..
Back Extensions - 2x25
Leg Press - 5x16-8 reps (Holy lactic acid build-up)!
Close Grip Bench Press (hands no more than 6" apart) -5x12-8 reps
High Pulls - 5x12-5 reps
Power Clean - 6x2
BB BOR - 4x12-8 reps
Wide Grip Pull Ups (BW+15kg) - 5x7-5 reps
Seated Pulley Row - 4x12-10 reps
Not much, but better than nothing, I guess..
didelydoo said:
Call me sceptical......but 40+kg on a bench whilst loosing a kg a week for 10 weeks ain't going to happen using Ostarine, or most real AAS for that matter. I'd say his bench was significantly higher to start with (say 120kg)
Well I left out his all time best was 105kg prior to his knee accident. So he's up 15kg and repping it! I also did his programming which may have helped
didelydoo said:
Halb said:
YOu're a top salesman, SMiffy!
Did go through my mind 
I just sell stuff I believe works. I've had a few try the various sarms from the brand I stock and no complaints. I have seen user reviews online of other brands with no luck.
With that said, I'm happy to do a money back guarantee if you have no luck with it!
Horrible workout today. Absolutely knackered and feeling run down, so I played it by ear (except for one notable f
k up).
Squats:
120kg x 5
130kg x 2 (failed on the 3rd)
3 sets of 100kg x 5
I've got an absurdly narrow squatting stance, about shoulder width, which I originally adopted to get rid of some hip pain. But I think it's holding me back.
Bench:
90kg x 5
105kg x 5
(I should be doing that set at 107.5 but didn't want to go hard after my squat fail)
3 sets of 90kg x 5
Close grip bench press to finish: 60kg x 12; 30 seconds rest and another 7 reps.
Band pull aparts and skipped the rest.
k up).Squats:
120kg x 5
130kg x 2 (failed on the 3rd)
3 sets of 100kg x 5
I've got an absurdly narrow squatting stance, about shoulder width, which I originally adopted to get rid of some hip pain. But I think it's holding me back.
Bench:
90kg x 5
105kg x 5
(I should be doing that set at 107.5 but didn't want to go hard after my squat fail)
3 sets of 90kg x 5
Close grip bench press to finish: 60kg x 12; 30 seconds rest and another 7 reps.
Band pull aparts and skipped the rest.
Back to the gym today, chest and shoulders. - great little workout, resulted in a ridiculous pump. Vascular right across the shoulders, chest and arms - not sure why because my diet has been less than perfect this week. Anyway, a very pleasing workout nonetheless. Bike tomorrow and Sunday, should see me close to 6,000km for the year so far.
Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
mcelliott said:
Back to the gym today, chest and shoulders. - great little workout, resulted in a ridiculous pump. Vascular right across the shoulders, chest and arms - not sure why because my diet has been less than perfect this week. Anyway, a very pleasing workout nonetheless. Bike tomorrow and Sunday, should see me close to 6,000km for the year so far.
Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
I find anything above half bodyweight in each hand for dumbells / kettle bells quite taxing. Others say a farmers walk should be double bodyweight, but that is with a trap bar. You're stronger than me, so perhaps 1.5 bodyweight in total. Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
mcelliott said:
Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
I'd say bodyweight per hand if you're sub 100kg is good. Most open weight novice comps tend to be 90/100kg a hand quickest time which can be sub 10 secs on average.
Anything above 150kg per hand 20m run seems to be in the elite category. (even more so if you're less than 120kg or so bodyweight)
mcelliott said:
Back to the gym today, chest and shoulders. - great little workout, resulted in a ridiculous pump. Vascular right across the shoulders, chest and arms - not sure why because my diet has been less than perfect this week. Anyway, a very pleasing workout nonetheless. Bike tomorrow and Sunday, should see me close to 6,000km for the year so far.
Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
I reckon ¾bw per arm for distance is a good start, that was the open challenge did at the Iron Pit a few years back.Just a quick question for diddely/anyone else - I'm interested in trying out a farmers walk exercise, what would be a respectable weight to start with? My grip strength has always been pretty good.
smiffy180 said:
I just sell stuff I believe works. I've had a few try the various sarms from the brand I stock and no complaints. I have seen user reviews online of other brands with no luck.
With that said, I'm happy to do a money back guarantee if you have no luck with it!
Nice link to loaded carries from t-nation
https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-7-best-worko...
Can't wait to add the FW after May
Edited by Halb on Friday 28th April 20:32
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