What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2

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Jamie VTS

1,238 posts

147 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Tough session yesterday.

Back squat 5 x 3 @ 75% (w/ 3 second pause).

Workout was;

6 rounds (1 round starts every 2 minutes).

15 wall balls and Kettle bell swings for the remainder of the 2 minutes.

Tough getting back on the wall balls with 0 rest!

Animal

5,249 posts

268 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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This morning:
2x24kg kettlebell push-press x 10
Row 2 mins (min. 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
1x24kg kettlebell goblet squat x 10
Row 2 mins (min. 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds

10x10 pushups

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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didelydoo said:
Burwood said:
Inspired by DD I tried some standing to lying roll outs with my trusty wheel. I did half a dozen which weren’t too hard but still working the abs. I checked the Instagram tapes and saw that the knee is not meant to touch. Oh!!! I managed 2, shaking like a stting dog. That was yesterday and I have doms city hehe

Edited by Burwood on Wednesday 18th October 21:38
Good work. My abs are still fking painful! Sore to touch.....I need to do them more often to avoid it. A bit overzealous for getting back into it biggrin
My abs are pretty thick. I know if I trimmed right down they’d really pop. Those plank roll outs are brutal. As a finisher would be my call. I also find thrusting the legs 90 deg vertical really burn too. Your Abs must get hit hard indirectly from all the heavy bent over rows etc. Anything stabilising the core in heavy lifting engages them. I’m still bloody sore.More than yesterday.


TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Speaking of abs, my current favourite is hanging strict toes-to-bar. I try to come down as slowly and as controlled as possible.

I've recently been supersetting them with strict hanging knee raises.

These have done wonders for my abs!

dirty boy

14,697 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Burwood said:
didelydoo said:
Burwood said:
Inspired by DD I tried some standing to lying roll outs with my trusty wheel. I did half a dozen which weren’t too hard but still working the abs. I checked the Instagram tapes and saw that the knee is not meant to touch. Oh!!! I managed 2, shaking like a stting dog. That was yesterday and I have doms city hehe

Edited by Burwood on Wednesday 18th October 21:38
Good work. My abs are still fking painful! Sore to touch.....I need to do them more often to avoid it. A bit overzealous for getting back into it biggrin
My abs are pretty thick. I know if I trimmed right down they’d really pop. Those plank roll outs are brutal. As a finisher would be my call. I also find thrusting the legs 90 deg vertical really burn too. Your Abs must get hit hard indirectly from all the heavy bent over rows etc. Anything stabilising the core in heavy lifting engages them. I’m still bloody sore.More than yesterday.
I've only started specific training for my abs over the past couple of months, always thought that squats and deadlifts would make them reasonably strong (and they have to a degree) but i'm on a fairly hefty surplus and although the fat gain has been more than i'd have preferred, I can really see (more feel) that they've seen the best increases so far, quite excited to drop bf and maybe see a proper six pack for once.

I'm training them Tuesday and Saturday mornings, hanging leg raises, side raises, plank, cable twists, cable crunches (great for getting heavy) russian twists with medicine ball, trx strap knees to chest etc....really giving them a pasting like never before. I think because i've neglected them, that's why i've seen such rapid growth..."newbie abs" lol!

Helps that I can now train more often and target a more rounded program with nothing getting missed, both my children now swim at the same time, so I can train during lunch at work, then also whilst they swim (check me out with my two gym memberships!!!)


ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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I am persuaded by direct ab training. I stick to the "anti" exercises, mostly, though, because I am unsure of the safety of loaded spinal flexion movements. One thing I have noticed is that ab training seems to improve my deadlift,

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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dirty boy said:
Burwood said:
didelydoo said:
Burwood said:
Inspired by DD I tried some standing to lying roll outs with my trusty wheel. I did half a dozen which weren’t too hard but still working the abs. I checked the Instagram tapes and saw that the knee is not meant to touch. Oh!!! I managed 2, shaking like a stting dog. That was yesterday and I have doms city hehe

Edited by Burwood on Wednesday 18th October 21:38
Good work. My abs are still fking painful! Sore to touch.....I need to do them more often to avoid it. A bit overzealous for getting back into it biggrin
My abs are pretty thick. I know if I trimmed right down they’d really pop. Those plank roll outs are brutal. As a finisher would be my call. I also find thrusting the legs 90 deg vertical really burn too. Your Abs must get hit hard indirectly from all the heavy bent over rows etc. Anything stabilising the core in heavy lifting engages them. I’m still bloody sore.More than yesterday.
I've only started specific training for my abs over the past couple of months, always thought that squats and deadlifts would make them reasonably strong (and they have to a degree) but i'm on a fairly hefty surplus and although the fat gain has been more than i'd have preferred, I can really see (more feel) that they've seen the best increases so far, quite excited to drop bf and maybe see a proper six pack for once.

I'm training them Tuesday and Saturday mornings, hanging leg raises, side raises, plank, cable twists, cable crunches (great for getting heavy) russian twists with medicine ball, trx strap knees to chest etc....really giving them a pasting like never before. I think because i've neglected them, that's why i've seen such rapid growth..."newbie abs" lol!

Helps that I can now train more often and target a more rounded program with nothing getting missed, both my children now swim at the same time, so I can train during lunch at work, then also whilst they swim (check me out with my two gym memberships!!!)
Are you the gym in my gym using the lat pull down machine “seat’ to work their abs biggrin

There is nothing fancy needed in abs, just proper concentration and squeeze. If you can do dozens of reps, you’re doing it wrong.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Burwood said:
Are you the gym in my gym using the lat pull down machine “seat’ to work their abs biggrin

There is nothing fancy needed in abs, just proper concentration and squeeze. If you can do dozens of reps, you’re doing it wrong.
I keep meaning to include abs at the end of my routines, but in all honesty, I am always too wiped out at the end of the main course..

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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chris watton said:
Burwood said:
Are you the gym in my gym using the lat pull down machine “seat’ to work their abs biggrin

There is nothing fancy needed in abs, just proper concentration and squeeze. If you can do dozens of reps, you’re doing it wrong.
I keep meaning to include abs at the end of my routines, but in all honesty, I am always too wiped out at the end of the main course..
some excellent tips here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1932GYM92wbiggrin

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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TheJimi said:
Speaking of abs, my current favourite is hanging strict toes-to-bar. I try to come down as slowly and as controlled as possible.

I've recently been supersetting them with strict hanging knee raises.

These have done wonders for my abs!
Hanging leg raises along with inverse crunches are my fave. Not keen on roll-outs as something sometimes clicks on my back.
Twists on the landmine are my third fave.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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TheJimi said:
Jeez, that's what I said! :Hehe:
laugh oops missed that. I do agree though! biggrin

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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My abs are the strongest they've ever been with no ab work at all! 10 weeks of beltless deadlifting thrice per week did it. My core feels like a rock biggrin

If you are going to do some, ab rolls trump everything IMO, by miles

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Strong work there Smiffy!

Animal

5,249 posts

268 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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smiffy180 said:
Animal said:
Can anyone recommend me a decent all-purpose belt? Now that I'm almost middle-aged and starting to lift relatively heavy loads, I'm getting a bit paranoid about my back!
What's your measurements for where you wear it?
I've got a small and medium single prong left (they're larger than standard sizes) going for £50 posted. Lifetime warranty, 13mm thick single piece leather. What I was using on my deadlift vid biggrin
Otherwise depends what your budget is!
Hi - waist is about 34", so I'm guessing small or med. £50 is a bit more than I can afford at the minute though, sorry.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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didelydoo said:
Strong work there Smiffy!
Cheers!

Any recommendations for about/core work if you can't do roll out (physio recommends I don't currently until tendon is 100%).
There's planches, beltless stuff then I'm thinking heavy side bends. Anything else?

I've got a weak core relative to what I can do.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Animal said:
Hi - waist is about 34", so I'm guessing small or med. £50 is a bit more than I can afford at the minute though, sorry.
That's fair!
13mm is thickest belt if you want something solid. Just be aware that belts that have multiple layers of leather - 3+ are a cheaper way of making them (it was 5x cheaper for me to get them like that than the single piece I bought!) so should be priced accordingly but many companies don't.

I think RDX have a decent belt up for grabs currently.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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smiffy180 said:
didelydoo said:
Strong work there Smiffy!
Cheers!

Any recommendations for about/core work if you can't do roll out (physio recommends I don't currently until tendon is 100%).
There's planches, beltless stuff then I'm thinking heavy side bends. Anything else?

I've got a weak core relative to what I can do.
Strict hanging knee / leg raises?

Strict toes-to-bar?

By strict, I mean, zero swinging and seriously controlled movements.


didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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smiffy180 said:
Cheers!

Any recommendations for about/core work if you can't do roll out (physio recommends I don't currently until tendon is 100%).
There's planches, beltless stuff then I'm thinking heavy side bends. Anything else?

I've got a weak core relative to what I can do.
Beltless stuff and planks. People laugh at planks, but they can be tough if your not used to them, and they're great for body alignment. They make me shake after 30 sec or so. Tense every thing, head to toe, hard.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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TheJimi said:
Strict hanging knee / leg raises?

Strict toes-to-bar?

By strict, I mean, zero swinging and seriously controlled movements.
Try hanging at 160kg, never mind doing raises laugh

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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didelydoo said:
smiffy180 said:
Cheers!

Any recommendations for about/core work if you can't do roll out (physio recommends I don't currently until tendon is 100%).
There's planches, beltless stuff then I'm thinking heavy side bends. Anything else?

I've got a weak core relative to what I can do.
Beltless stuff and planks. People laugh at planks, but they can be tough if your not used to them, and they're great for body alignment. They make me shake after 30 sec or so. Tense every thing, head to toe, hard.
Interesting.

I’ve always been of the opinion that planks just get you better at planks and not much else. Used to do them all the time, but didn’t feel any real benefit apart from, as I say, getting better at planks!

Also interesting that you can be shaking after 30s, because you’ve presumably got a stronger core than me, and I didn't start shaking until the 2min mark or something – and yes, I’m doing them strict and with controlled tension.

Tho admittedly, I didn’t do the whole head-to-toe tension thing you describe – maybe that’s where I’m going “wrong”.




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